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We updated the FriendFeed Beta navigation and sidebar based on people's feedback: http://beta.friendfeed.com/
We have separated Groups (the new name for "Rooms") into its own section, and we have renamed "filters" to "Saved searches" to make things simpler/clearer. Saved searches have simper URLs that can be shared, and friend list operations have all been added/cleaned up. - Bret Taylor
Nice - looks much cleaner. - Robin Barooah
Nice, better navigation - Nimaa
Our primary goal was making Groups more useful again. The friend search / group search functionality is now separate and much easier to use. - Bret Taylor
excellent, much clearer - Don Bonaddio
So the "Top Friends" option that used to be showing is now gone. Works fine. - Louis Gray
That works awesome with the "group" I just put together consisting of all my rss feeds from google reader. - James Ostheimer
I like this change. Also, I apparently like boats. - Ana
I dunno, it's possible to be an enthusiast but not like something. - Casey Muller
Thank you! - BEX
We have also added Atom feeds, Block, and a number of other small missing components. - Bret Taylor
Much better! - Andrew
SHWEET! - Rahsheen
i like being able to statically set the groups it shows me on the side now. - rob
Yes, rearranging and theming are both things we would like to do. - Bret Taylor
I wondered what happened ! - LPH™ and his dog P™
+++ Thanks! - .LAG liked that
@Rob, you still can set the groups that show up by clicking on "prefs" in the orange bar. - Ana
Where did the create feed/imaginary friend substitute function go? - Brian Sullivan
@Ana, I just said I liked it. :) I didn't see the ability to change what was shown there prior to this change. It just seemed like a random sampling of the groups I'm on before. - rob
Excellent. Very glad to see the "Browse/edit friends" link. I look forward to being able to rearrange to put my saved searches at the top. - Elizabeth
Nice, but I use filters (well, now saved searches) more than I do my friend lists. Personally I prefer it the way it was, although I'd be happy just to have filters bumped up some (I got a _lot_ of lists to scroll past). - Chris Charabaruk
@Brian, I dont think the imaginary friend stuff is in the beta interface yet, I had to use the old UI to add a few yesterday. - rob
I like the new separation much more than old layout. Being able to rearrange placement of these blocks would be nice but not essential. - Boris Gordon
Better, but you really gotta do something about that color scheme. - mike fabio
Great work! Would be really nice to get the last modified time back next to the title of the groups. That saved me a lot of unnecessary clicks in the non-beta version. - Christoph Studer
Boris: Not essential, that's true, but extremely useful. - Chris Charabaruk
rob friendman -- I am talking about the create a feed function that allowed you to create the equivalent of imaginary friends. - Brian Sullivan
I still think that the "My discussions" link under Friends should really be "My likes and comments", since there are some posts in that feed that are just ones I "liked" and have 0 comments, from me or anyone else. Would you call a post with no comments a "discussion"? - Nathan Chase
Nathan: you are right, those should probably not be in that feed. - Bret Taylor
We are still working out imaginary friends functionality. It is on our radar. - Bret Taylor
Nice. An improvement in my book. - AJ Kohn
I like it. Now give us skins so we can change the color scheme. I also wish I could put searches at top. - Robert Scoble
Bret: cool - just a little semantic thing I figured you might have overlooked - and something that could be confusing for new users. - Nathan Chase
Bret, you guys have moved the filters to the bottom of the sidebar. Can you please put them back to where they were? - Kol Tregaskes
anyway i can switch my account totally over to the beta UI? so any ff link i click on goes to the beta....thx - patrick
let me choose the sequence of the boxes - like "saved searches" on top! - Kishore Balakrishnan
Agreed a nice dark skin would be awesome - Kashif Khan
Can we have the "last modified time" back for each individual group? Anyway, this navigation is much better. Thanks! - Winston Teo
agree with Neil Saunders - ♣ ♣ ♣
Thanks, Bret. You guys -- FF team and product -- are awesome! - Eric Johnson
Thank you Thank you Thank you! Loving the beta and the FFteam's responsiveness - Keith - @tsudo
Why is this showing up in my timeline? It says because one of the people I'm subscribed to Liked it. I'm not a member of the room and I'm not subscribed to the original poster (Sorry Bret!) But I swear I've turned off FoaF every day and this keeps happening. - Paul Reynolds
We have more consistent terminology now; good. Now can we have more sophisticated feed-composition tools? How about one-touch "create group from saved search"? And how about fixing the "private group - standard FEED - public group" inconsistency? - Karl Knechtel
I don't think we need full skinning capabilities - just a colour chooser for each coloured element. Also, the prefs link for Groups is a bit ugly. I don't like magically appearing links. - Karl Knechtel
Overall, big improvements, guys. :) - Karl Knechtel
@patrick: every element of the beta UI should have a beta URL already. Any links that you click in posts are whatever URL is actually specified in the post. - Karl Knechtel
Bret, this is great news. I'll leave the cosmetics to better people. I like things as is :) - Deepak Singh
@Paul Reynolds: FoaF can be turned off? - Karl Knechtel
We just pushed a fix for IE 7/8. If you were using IE, you should refresh. Sorry for the problems. - Bret Taylor
Nice improvements, FF team. - Micah
Yes! Thank You! You guys are awesome! - Alfredo 亜瑠布れっど
Very good improvement, but would like to have another box of favorite friends. I wouldn't mind if I could set this up like the groups box, or if it would just remember who I clicked on the most. - guruvan (Rob Nelson)
Simpler... When is the mobile version coming out? - Brian Kenyon
Well done. - Steven Perez
Bret: theming? Please elaborate! - Ryan Miller
Thank you! - Kemal
It is awesome Bret! - Akira Kojima Simpson
I would really appreciate if we could drag and drop items and boxes. I want to order all this. - stanjourdan
While the new sidebar order is good, I'm having fun getting rid of two saved searches which only bring up an "edit new filter/search page. It'd be nice to have some way to edit/delete searches, like with the groups and friends boxes. Still waiting for someone to give me a tip on how to remove those two links from the list otherwise. - George Hall (Australia)
George: Click the "Saved Searches" title, then select the feed from the left-hand side, then click Delete. - Karl Knechtel
much better! - Dobromir Hadzhiev
Peter, yep to me that's in completely the wrong place. It's the second most important new feature on FF (behind real-time) and it's now "hidden" at the bottom. I have a large list of Groups and means big scroll down to the Saved Searches, which I use a LOT. Please either return them back to the second tab down or give us the option to select what sidebars we have and what order they appear on the bar? - Kol Tregaskes
Bret, this is great, especially being able to see all of my groups. But I agree with just about everyone else, I'd prefer to have my saved searches above groups. There is still enough room to add subscriptions as well . . . maybe?? - Chris Loft
I like the way things are separated, now. However, I too have a lot of lists to scroll past to get to groups and saved searches. It would be nice to move the saved searches and groups above the lists. Definitely loving the beta, though! - Seth Greenblatt
Hmmm.... I still cannot edit a list created from the "likes" of my friends. The UI doesn't allow me to manage the friend list. I cannot tell the likes to which I'm subscribed or add/remove others. - Anthony K. Valley ©
much better now - Mahsa
A number of feeds I set up are showing as Groups. Is that right? I set up a number of Twitter feeds (e.g. "Twitter - Al Yankovic") for nonFF Tweeters. It's a little confusing since now they're listed as a Group when their settings are "Standard Feed". - CAJ was here
separate groups section is good. now about labelling content sources rather than people... (would be nice to have this at least as an option: show user avatar OR show content source - then those of us who read by content are happy, and those who read by user are happy) - Richard Akerman
Alejandro, I first thought I'd miss "filter" but actually prefer "saved searches" now. Well because they are, aren't they? Makes things easier to understand. ;-) - Kol Tregaskes
Voice chat in groups could be nice :) - Nir Ben Yona
Thank you! - Iván Abrego
I use filters a lot and now on the HP Mini I have to scroll down the window to get to the next filter I want to check which then scrolls the page back up to the top after picking it. I have nine filters that I check probably once an hour. The page scrolling is tedious to go through. Is there a way you could move Filters up above Groups either manually or automatically based on most common use? - Loren Heiny
Thank you! Navigating to groups/rooms was a pain. - amygeek
Nice Job, I like it. It feels simpler and will be welcoming to new users. - Poor Gamer
I also don't care for the name change at the top of the "Search results." The name of the search was better at least for how I use it. I can see the actual search criteria in the seach box. I don't need it in both places. Plus, when I'm clicking through a list of saved searches one at a time I often forget where I am in the list. The title helped me keep track. - Loren Heiny
Kewl! - Charlie Anzman
Love it. Thank you guys very much! - Josh Haley
"Atom feeds" are not a "small missing components"!!! :) .. as on abay +++++AAAA+++AAAA for beta.FriendFeed - CantorJF
Seems like the green box should be titled "Friend Lists" (in an actual Friends list, I'd expect to see Joe, Mary, Bob, etc. -- right now, there's a pretty big disconnect btw typical user expectations and what's appearing in that box). And maybe the browse/edit should then be titled "Browse/edit friend lists". - Christopher Galtenberg
Even more unexpected is that when I click on Friends, I also see Groups. There should probably be another split, so we have Lists, Friends, and Groups. Bret, you guys are going to run out of colors soon! :) - Daniel Sims
And would you *please* give us custom backgrounds and colors? - Gaby K. Slezák
Karl: tried it, but it only brings up a new filter again. If one could edit one's "saved searches list by the NAME of the filter, it'd be easy to delete it. But your suggestion didn't bring up anything that could help me get rid of the two empty filters. Neither has a delete button. - George Hall (Australia)
Ana is a boat enthusiast? - Benjamin Golub
Karl:don't know whether my desktop wasn't showing the left-side bar, but late last night, I was looking at a list of my saved searches with the delete button active for all things in the list. Finally got rid of those two items that were only bringing up a search/filter page. That left-side bar with all listed searches is an elegant solution. - George Hall (Australia)
Dont like it. No longer can get Twit Conversations to show up in Groups.. only in Home even if I add it to Groups! - Greg