Gillmor Gang - 27AUG09
OK, comments for todays "show of silence" belong here :)
- Rob La Gesse
better call "The Tech Guy"
- HansVanRock
none of that.
- Amyloo
it was a pofound session, one for the history books
- Eran Even-Kesef
Though there is no show yet, the real-time web is still allowing for conversation...kinda a case study unto itself
- Robert J Taylor
*** POST-SHOW UPDATE *** README *** If you're coming to this late and just starting to read through the thread, I'm updating this old comment a couple hours after the show was scheduled... The show didn't happen due to technical difficulties. You didn't miss anything. Well... you missed the conversation here on FF as we killed some time, but you didn't miss the show, per se. Stay tuned to the RealTime Network room for (re)scheduling updates.
- Ken Sheppardson
Question about the #gillmorgang tag: does this apply to Twitter, Friendfeed, or both?
- Vezquex
Re: the hashtag - anywhere social media is found - soon we'll pull in from about any feed.
- Rob La Gesse
Hans: oh yeah that would go over well, need to credit Francine @hardaway with saying "Call Leo" first :)
- David Stratton
thx
- Web Pixie
awkward pauses are part of the fun #gillmorgang
- Brian Hendrickson
Brian that's hilarious!
- Francine Hardaway
Embrace the silence
- Mike Doeff
this is simply the most fun we've ever had here on the #gillmorgang
- Brian Hendrickson
I'll let you all cover the hash tag thing; I'm quite inexperienced with it. As for the delay, it adds to the legend and the charm of the GG we already know and love.
- Aron Michalski
I hope nobody's surprised that the folks in the "RealTime Network" room are somewhat impatient, eh?
- Ken Sheppardson
is there any hope we'll see the rising of the phoenix before it's over or will we need to wait until next week?
- Marko
we're using this time to calibrate the bandwidth use ans scale the back end infrastructure to assess the potential for maximizing global and regional impact on a wide variety of social metrics.
- Rob La Gesse
KShep has a sense of humor
- Francine Hardaway
Dogs have given up and gone down for their naps:-)
- Francine Hardaway
You don't really have to use layman's terms with us... we're part of the advanced guarde...or something...
- Aron Michalski
Actually, we are looking for a lost 5 1/4 inch floppy that runs everything.
- Rob La Gesse
I'm playing the Calliflower hold music on a loop here just for old time's sake.
- Ken Sheppardson
I have the floppy here somewhere in a file. Or is it in Phoenix in a file? Just hang on, Rob, I will find it:-)
- Francine Hardaway
I'm home but usually I listen to the Lodgenet theme in order to feel like I'm in a poorly cleaned hotel room...
- Aron Michalski
This is more of Steve Gillmor's brilliant modern-day Dada, isn't it
- Kevin Marks
lol ken. hum a few bars
- Amyloo
The absence of show is the show.
- Ken Sheppardson
I think Steve is waiting for RSS to die before starting the show
- Michael Pinto
The data collected from the waiting for the show is more important than the lack of topic.
- Aron Michalski
Friendfeed frame is cumbersome. I know I can go directly to friendfeed in another window but. . .
- Matt Terenzio
looks like I'll have to leave work in the middle, at this point. I don't suppose you can stream usteam on the iphone?
- Amyloo
Matt - welcome! @Amyloo - there is a ustream iPhone app!
- Rob La Gesse
hmmmm! thx
- Amyloo
-amyloo There is an app for that. (really there is, go download uStream)
- Jerry Schuman
Glad to see I haven't missed anything Rob. Actually I take that back, but I'm glad to be here.
- Matt Terenzio
Steve - how about you just turn the cameras and mics on and let us watch you try to fix it? That might be fun in and of itself!
- Rob La Gesse
guess I'll bide my time with a round of "Launching Sheep"
- Jerry Schuman
maybe try resetting the PRAM cmd-opt-p-r wait for 2 long tones
- Brian Hendrickson
Is there some sort of scheduling window that closes at some point, or are we just sitting on the proverbial tarmac?
- Ken Sheppardson
Nice one Ken
- Matt Terenzio
The Tarmacians, that's us.
- Amyloo
If this was like VirginAmerica they'd start handing out free booze.
- Jerry Schuman
track [podcast][next] Gillmor Gang
- Matt Terenzio
i'm using this time to scan the building43 page searching for secret messages and shaking the screen 3 times to see if scoble pops up.
- michael sean wright
Ken - you are not allowed to leave the plane until the flight crew says you can. Sorry - we are out of food and beverages, and both bathrooms are fouled. Thanks for flying Gillmor Airlines.
- Rob La Gesse
bummer, my advance math and strategic lunch and meeting planning all so I could listen before driving home (EST) tossed out the window :( hope you allow these to be recorded this time around Steve
- David Stratton
In a few months we'd be able to pass the time poking each other.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken: I think this is an American Airlines flight out of DFW and we're stuck on the plane waiting for the T-storm to pass. :)
- Robert J Taylor
Virgin Air just announced that they're in the red...maybe good not to follow that model :)
- Karoli
Rob: lol
- David Stratton
so can someone in the know tease us and tell us who the guests will be?
- Michael Pinto
Karoli: does that mean fewer photos of parasailing with supermodels?
- Robert J Taylor
Earlier I heard Andrew Keen and Loren Feldman talking to each other about who could and couldn't hear each other.
- Ken Sheppardson
Michael - WE are the guests, and THIS is the show! We've been "Gillmor'd"
- Rob La Gesse
Gillmor Gang has always been a money-maker. . .for the listeners
- Matt Terenzio
Rob I would have dressed better if I knew I was a guest!
- Michael Pinto
Truly VRM
- Matt Terenzio
GRM - Gang Relationship Management
- Matt Terenzio
If we are the guests which one of us gets to yell screw you, and storm off?
- Aaron Dyer
Do those two cancel each other out? They may be out of phase with one another...
- Aron Michalski
Lately when I'm commenting on more chat-link threads like this I think I should create a different FriendFeed account specifically for this sort of conversation, distinct from the "normal" stuff. Whadya think, gang?
- Ken Sheppardson
Good to "see" you all again.
- Francine Hardaway
Good to see you francine!
- Michael Pinto
Let's feed Francine's bedroom in or something.. .
- Matt Terenzio
Ken - or have a checkbox for "chatting in thread, don't spam history, Twitter, FB, etc."
- Robert J Taylor
someone ping me when real time starts. back to work time for me.
- Karoli
Technical issues have us delayed. We'lllet you know when we relaunch via Twitter and here. Pleasestand by
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina let Steve know that we love the show, tech glitches and all and wouldn't have it any other way
- Michael Pinto
Tina - I won't let them go anywhere. I battened the hatches. :)
- Rob La Gesse
to me it kinda defeats the goal, the filters should handle that type of work on the receiving end
- David Stratton
Is the show still running? I can't find it, though I've found the building 43 page.
- Hilary Talbot
Yikes. I just passed through 8,000 comments a minute ago.
- Ken Sheppardson
8080 is a big one too Shep
- Matt Terenzio
@Hilary - the show hasn't started. We are waiting for de-icing, or something.
- Rob La Gesse
Hilary: You haven't missed anything. They've had some technical difficulties that have delayed the show.
- Ken Sheppardson
I would like to know if recordings will exist? so if I want I can drive home and catch the show later
- David Stratton
Oh, thanks Ken and Rob!
- Hilary Talbot
thank god for cabonite.. it just saved my budget spreadsheet - first time i have done a restore
- Aaron Dyer
Given that the realtime feed is an embed of a ustream broadcast, I'd sure think you'd be able to just watch the ustream video later.
- Ken Sheppardson
I think there is usually a re4cord of the show with Ustream, no Jerry?
- Matt Terenzio
Being stuck on the tarmac is better than circling in a holding pattern with the "fasten seat belts" sign on. That reminds me...I'll brb
- Robert J Taylor
Sitting on a cornflake, waiting for Steve to come!
- Michael Pinto
hi hil! hi hil! hi hil! hi hil! hi hil! hi hil! hi hil! hi hil!
- Amyloo
I'm handing out virtual peanuts.
- Rob La Gesse
It amazes me that something as old as the shoe is still undergoing rapid innovation
- Matt Terenzio
I think ustream only lets publishers record and that is not automatic, they need to click it them make it available, my guess is many have learned and ready to record the bootlegs, but I would rather see an official copy, like many I don't always understand SG
- David Stratton
Matt if you think shoe innovation is interesting, you'd probably like that steam engine story from yesterday :-)
- Brian Hendrickson
oh shit. iphone ustream app needs wifi. no live for amy. see you all on the recorded side.
- Amyloo
Could we get Jason C to record the show and then distribute it without permission?
- Michael Pinto
Rob AWS trying to be more enterprise friendly, http://ff.im/7fZsF though I doubt I could have the SLA modification conversation with them
- David Stratton
Well Brian I just looked at a new pair of mine and they are typical leather loafers but the soles are Nike Air. Man.
- Matt Terenzio
it's just terribly charming how #gillmorgang features these technically inspired interludes
- Brian Hendrickson
David - they need to get more USER friendly first, I think.
- Rob La Gesse
I hear Nike's cost less than $5 to make and ship here the rest is marketing
- David Stratton
This would be great marketing except we are all die-hard listeners already
- Matt Terenzio
I think steve is just waiting until there are 100 comments in the thread - you know - to determine if there is enough interest.
- Rob La Gesse
Matt yes this would definitely be a great marketing idea
- Brian Hendrickson
Rob - I agree, not everyone wants to build their empire via API or 3rd party management tools
- David Stratton
@David - and most people like to call a human for help, in my experience.
- Rob La Gesse
Matt: think of it, if there wasn't a glitch we'd all be waiting for one to occur and not give full attention. Brilliant strategy!
- Robert J Taylor
:) The Rackspace Cloud is holding up well though!
- Rob La Gesse
If this was a movie theater we could use this time to buy popcorn and soda while watching trailers
- Michael Pinto
I saw a clip of the first episode of 60 minutes the other day - it was kinda like this, but with more static, and nobody else to keep you entertained :)
- Rob La Gesse
Rob, you're a pretty good tap dancer.
- Amyloo
I wish this window kept the most recent comments at the top, not the bottom. Hmmm
- Rob La Gesse
if this was a movie theater my popcorn would have been empty before the trailers even start
- HansVanRock
@Amy: you should have seen his dancing last night. He had a ball!
- Robert J Taylor
Rob: Are you looking at http://friendfeed.com/realtim... ?
- Ken Sheppardson
Hey - a fire ant in your underpants will make ANYONE an "interesting" dancer! (Damn, that was painful!)
- Rob La Gesse
...in it's own window, that is
- Ken Sheppardson
Ken - no - I am looking at the sidebar on building43.com/realtime
- Rob La Gesse
well, see you guys. with any luck for me, and absolutely no luck for you and steve and tina, I'll be home and not miss much.
- Amyloo
Ah... yeah, that's hard to follow. :-/ Not a function of building43, it's just that's an awkward embed widget, imho
- Ken Sheppardson
Yeah, I know - I embedded it. Will see if they can make a change for me though (well, will see if they can make a change for @scobleizer)
- Rob La Gesse
I wish there were a way to either predict or specify the "80de37d5" component of the item path, so one could programatically embed the individual item.
- Ken Sheppardson
agree, ken. I ran into that when I was trying to use FF for blog comments.
- Amyloo
hi Amy - good luck with the timing!
- Hilary Talbot
wow, Apple approves Spotify app
- David Stratton
You know, now that FriendFeed isn't independent, I'm going to openly say they were brilliant but left a lot of room for improvement. I'm pretty good at the web and I never figured out their @ system for instance. Was I supposed to read a manual for that?
- Matt Terenzio
when it's transcribed to papyrus, I'm in. Later my dear friends. "I'm out to lunch".
- Aron Michalski
Mashable says facebook 3.0 just got approval on the iphone http://mashable.com/2009...
- Aaron Dyer
OK, "wow, Apple approves Spotify app - " was the 100th comment - you can now start the show, Steve!
- Rob La Gesse
Perhaps Steve is waiting on Apple to approve the start of the show?
- Robert J Taylor
Maybe if we taunt Steve with comments that Pete Best was better than Ringo he'll come out and play?
- Michael Pinto
Someone mentioned that Ringo was always the happy Beatle - well, duh! He was stoked just to be in the group at all!
- Robert J Taylor
Rob - that's not Simon and Garfunkel, it's helmet head and frizzy top! Yoiks!
- Robert J Taylor
Ringo was well known in England before the Beatles broke
- Matt Terenzio
And he's better than most think (Ringo)
- Matt Terenzio
Steve is more like Bob Dylan than Beatles. It's all about the vast library rather than individual masterpieces.
- Matt Terenzio
Right - steve isn't a perfectionist - he is a practitioner.
- Rob La Gesse
And some Bob Dylan sucks
- Matt Terenzio
Can we "paint this masterpiece" already
- Matt Terenzio
"my words like silent raindrops fell..." as usual.
- Aron Michalski
"people hearing without listening..." welcome to my world. :)
- Karoli
"the streets of cobblestone"
- Matt Terenzio
By the time Steve got to Woodstock, we were half in the bag
- Matt Terenzio
It's like rain on your wedding day, it's 10,000 knives when you needed was a spoon
- Michael Pinto
Steve had a run in with the Hell's Angels up in Woodstock from what I remember
- Matt Terenzio
If Steve can remember woodstock then he wasn't really there
- Michael Pinto
I don't think Steve meant Woodstock the concert, but the town
- Matt Terenzio
I always assumed that story was "from back in the day" I don't recall him attaching a location except to say that it was at a bar or something
- Michael Pinto
I keep going away and coming back, and nothing's changed. This is truly the still point in the turning world.
- Francine Hardaway
Francine I was going to request a video of the dogs if steven can't make it!
- Michael Pinto
I could be wrong Michael. Maybe we can clarify that on the next Gillmor Gang
- Matt Terenzio
Great plug for the next show, Matt. Thanks! ;)
- Robert J Taylor
Matt he always tells that story in passing, it's never the focus of the conversation I notice
- Michael Pinto
Perhaps he doesn't remember the entire story? :)
- Rob La Gesse
No it's always meant to make a broader point, funny
- Matt Terenzio
well I was done with work 83 minutes ago, time to drive home. I know Steve will start soon as I unplug my network :) see you on the other side
- David Stratton
I wish Twitter had an edit button like Friendfeed, but would that be good for preserving News as it is formed along a stream?
- Matt Terenzio
We do't want people editing what was once the news
- Matt Terenzio
Matt - it would be good for making me look less ignorant! Maybe edit for 30 seconds or something?
- Rob La Gesse
I rarely edit my comments
- Robert J Taylor
Yes, Rob that is what I was thinking
- Matt Terenzio
OK, David's gone, Steve. You can start now.
- Ken Sheppardson
Perhaps Steve is waiting for ALL of us to leave? Tricky guy, that Gillmor!
- Rob La Gesse
It's like an auction that doesn't end until it goes X minutes without a bid....
- Ken Sheppardson
It's actually serious stuff. I give my reporters the ability to edit stories online but I implore them to indicate changes other than typos and such
- Matt Terenzio
The show starts when we quit talking about it. Shhh...
- Ken Sheppardson
We don't want news people (which is everybody) to edit history, right?
- Matt Terenzio
Matt: first it's typos, then, before you know it, your reporters are working for the Ministry of Truth (minitrue)...
- Robert J Taylor
Matt - I have some history I would LOVE to edit!
- Rob La Gesse
Too bad we don't have RSS anymore so readers can just capture a snapshot of the original version...
- Ken Sheppardson
Oh yea - Steve - RSS is dead, you can start the show!
- Rob La Gesse
I wish you could edit this piece of history, Rob: http://twitter.com/kr8tr... ... #TMI!
- Robert J Taylor
2 hours. starting to doubt this is gonna happen.
- Vezquex
Raphael: THIS is the show today :)
- Robert J Taylor
OK everyone - just talked to Steve. He wants you to know that the comment thread has kept the spirits up as he has been pulling out the rest of his hair - but for today we are pulling the show. Still some bugs to work out, but we know what they are. We'll leave this page and chat open, so feel free to pile on more lyrics or anecdotes!
- Rob La Gesse
ha, "comment threat"
- Vezquex
I have enjoyed moving in and out of the real time comment stream here. Steve always used to jump on me about trying to fill the silent spots on NGL. Now I know what he means. :) Hugs, Steve!
- Karoli
why not just drag steve into this friend feed room? we're here for the man not the video!
- Michael Pinto
He's still debugging
- Rob La Gesse
I'm glad Rob wasn't streaming during his debugging episode last night.
- Robert J Taylor
oh well! give my best to steve : )
- Michael Pinto
zzzzzZZZZZZZZZ (past midnight here)
- HansVanRock
Bummer but now I might be able to make the first show.
- Robert Scoble
It was all a ploy just so Robert could make the show... that's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
- Jerry Schuman
Wait! Am I late? Did I miss anything?
- Frank Paynter
Love you, Steve and Tina. Have a drink on me:-)
- Francine Hardaway
So did this show get recorded, or what? Link anyone? One of my best friends is a real-timer, but I swear, if "they" just keep assuming that I don't need time-shifting when I need it, well. There's just something wrong with that. EDIT: Wow, I had to do way too much reading to figure out that nothing actually happened today. Guess I'll stay tuned.
- Kurtiss Hare