Gillmor Gang Live Friday 01.16.15 LIVE rec

Listening while having my nails done for tomorrow - Francine Hardaway

Tony Fadell is taking over the Google Glass project? http://slate.me/156j1Ib Is it dead or not dead? - J.C. Bouvier

here - Keith Teare

I'm here for the first time in months now that im employed and busy! Excited to be back again, did the podcast get discontinued? last show posted was back in Oct - Matthew Voshell

Hi all. I am happy I can make it today. I know this is annoying, but is it so hard to put the show on a feed? In my part of the world its usually friday night and sometimes there is other stuff to do. Besides you often change schedule so I miss a show every now and then. I don't write this to offend you, just liking the show and I want to watch as often as possible. So keep up the good work (and bring back the feed). Thanks! - Ludwig Ederle

@JC I'd imagine he'd take over all hardware.. why else would they have grabbed him up? - Matthew Voshell

Audio is broadcasting... - Matthew Voshell

@Matthew true that...but they did already have him w/the Nest acquihire no? - J.C. Bouvier

@JC one would hope they get rid of OEMs and build thier own stuff from now on.. too much cannibalization; yea they did for the getting into out our homes, but doing that AND selling motorola, who was supposed to be thier hardware manf, you'd think they are just switching out moto for nest designs - Matthew Voshell

Glass isn't ready. New product later this year - Francine Hardaway

john - we can hear you. - Steve Gillmor

Yah, I suppose - I'm still not convinced @GOOG should be in the hardware business... - J.C. Bouvier

@JC also a valid statement - Matthew Voshell

I meant isn't dead. - Francine Hardaway

Listen to G3 where we discussed Glass yesterdY - Francine Hardaway

I think glass has it place, great for doctors and police in ferguson, MO, but prob not a consumer product - Matthew Voshell

G3 FTW - christina sponselli

I shut Scoble up - Francine Hardaway

Yes, you did Francine! - christina sponselli

hello beautiful chat room - Steve Gillmor

Yo steve - Tom Guarriello

finally got a break to join... good timing - Jerry Schuman

G3 would love to see some of you come to our chat room usually on Thursdays. - Steve Gillmor

Feed for Gillmor Gang can be gotten from http://techcrunch.com/video... - Keith Teare

Keith, sorry the timing didn't work for the call yesterday - Jerry Schuman

except it's empty, Keith - Kevin Marks

JT must not have great upload speeds from the undisclosed cave; video is kinda jumpy but everyone else looks great - Matthew Voshell

yeah Steve knows when pretty ladies fly through the air - Steve Gillmor

the photo of scoble in the shower with glass on still haunts my dreams - Matthew Voshell

Topic suggestion: Nest integration coming to google now? voice commands etc - Matthew Voshell

Google's Nest ex-Apple guy will remove Glass front facing camera and sell to industry. - clive boulton

Glass stops selling the day after Scoble's birthday. Coincidence or conspiracy? - Alex de Soto

conspiracy! - clive boulton

ooops I was signed in as Steve - Tina Chase Gillmor

Jerry - no problem - Keith Teare

Yes you were - Steve Gillmor

sorry Steve;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor

Kevin is right, except you can tilt your head up to turn Glass on, completely hands free. - Alex de Soto

Glass eye-watcher is a better wearable human computer interface than a watch - clive boulton

i know for a fact per a source that google is talking to police depts, but trying to figure out how to make it cheaper, police depts dont want to spend $2500 per - Matthew Voshell

right, but to talk to it you need to press the button, no? - Kevin Marks

Apart from Search and Gmail Google fails on creating other products - Moe Glitz

@Kevin.. can't you say "ok, glass" as well? - Matthew Voshell

Googlebase. Google+ - Moe Glitz

insert immature joke here...., what body part do you want augmented? - Matthew Voshell

Matthew - using a different camera today -- old school. Sorry. Bandwidth seems OK from the cave. - John Taschek

what's it called? company? - Tina Chase Gillmor

Devs have sold Explorer for Epson glasses http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin... - clive boulton

Dropcams can be scary too if you forget to turn them off during parties! - Alex de Soto

Hola! - Tony Stanislawski

@JT... yea i cant see your skin pores.. come on! ;) - Matthew Voshell

Epson glass is the real Joe 90 http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin... - clive boulton

Unless you connect to certain apps - Moe Glitz

@kevinMarks... good crop you got growing behind you..tastey? - Matthew Voshell

very tasty - Kevin Marks

Nest has made a point of being about 'home automation'. Very frightened by all the dead bodies in Cleantech, I think. Thread protocol description also gets those 'consumer' and home words way upfront in all announcements to distinguish from Industrial IoT. First application for Smart Glass is clearly IIoT - so out of Nest comfort zone. NEST & Glass = Not a goToMarket match - No one is talking about that - Therese Sullivan

Unfortunately I heard the wearable camera's angle doesn't lend itself to a good perspective. - christina sponselli

I like "Hey Siri" but that misconstrued request is very evocative of Keir's "Open the pod bay door Hal!" - J.C. Bouvier

Sometime in May, I'll have Alexa in our bedroom. Amazon's Echo that is. - Alex de Soto

@Alex... i signed up for early release of Amazon Echo.. i'm genuinly exceited to get that for $99 - Matthew Voshell

Why spy on the Russians when they are walking down your streets - Moe Glitz

Indeed Matthew. Willing to try it for $99. - Alex de Soto

Kevin's oranges look great - although his camera should be crisper to do justice to the great quality possible on this system - Roger Shepherd

@KevinMarks... i heard there are more cameras in London than in any other city in the world... true? - Matthew Voshell

At every opportunity those who would take away our security and privacy seek to do so. In Casablanca it's "Round up the usual suspects"; in the UK it's "Propose the snooper's charter". - Roger Shepherd

people will try new tech for a couple hundred bucks or less. But what Google did with Google Glass I think really pissed people off. Expensive to the user Beta test - Tina Chase Gillmor

Francine... when do you get in tomorrow? - Tina Chase Gillmor

i think that is true - Kevin Marks

Kevin knows how jelous I am over his oranges ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor

@Tina... i think Kevin should send everyone oranges for a end-of-show fruit review - Matthew Voshell

Google is going headlong into becoming an actual utility. They just announced a 150M+ investment in a large solar array in Utah. - Jerry Schuman

but if you really want to win me over.... lemons! - Tina Chase Gillmor

Hi Tina! - Jerry Schuman

Hey there Jerry! - Tina Chase Gillmor

first show in a long time for me. My startup has been keeping me swamped - Jerry Schuman

fun noises! - Tina Chase Gillmor

Tina: Limoncello! - Alex de Soto

So no keys to the Walled Gardens - Moe Glitz

ALex..... Yes! - Tina Chase Gillmor

Keith - "they're trying to make that illegal" - do you think they understand that level os subtlety? - Roger Shepherd

the lemon tree is next to the orange tree - Kevin Marks

holy moly. Kevin has oranges AND lemons. Meyers? - Tina Chase Gillmor

FBI was watching the man in OH that was planning that attack against the US Capital... they arrested him after he purchased the guns but had not committed a crime... all he did was speak out on twitter... slippery slop that your tweets are admissible in court? "your honor i present to the jury a tweet from the defendant, out for the night, lol, smiley face" - Matthew Voshell

Ok... enough fruit talk.... wait, maybe I can turn fruit talk into reck talk? - Tina Chase Gillmor

I meant tech talk - Tina Chase Gillmor

Barack Obama and David Cameron fail to see eye to eye on surveillance British prime minister takes tougher line on internet companies than US president at White House talks on Islamist threats - Roger Shepherd

just use Tor... I do for most things - Matthew Voshell

Only this time the Reds are embedded inside our countries - Moe Glitz

Steve's pretty aqua blue shirt looks white. I think i have a lighting problem - Tina Chase Gillmor

@Steve... no.. unless they let people vote via a smartphone app.. then you'd prob see a very different congress and policy - Matthew Voshell

I do care. I don't want the crims to syphon off my banking and other commercial dara. - Roger Shepherd

The Grauniad yesterday: A secret US cybersecurity report warned that government and private computers were being left vulnerable to online attacks from Russia, China and criminal gangs because encryption technologies were not being implemented fast enough. - Roger Shepherd

If I could vote with my smartphone I would be voting more often and probably feel more engaged - Tina Chase Gillmor

Tor was breached -- at least in theory - this past summer. Any impact? - John Taschek

darn I missed a good drink take - Tina Chase Gillmor

ISIS is Using Social Media to Reach YOU, Its New Audience http://www.thedailybeast.com/article... - christina sponselli

dept of Veterans affair takes over a year to patch critical vulnerabilities that should be patched within 30 days.... govts are always behind and with the exponential growth of tech is showing how far behind these govts really are; it doesnt take much to breaking most govt networks... - Matthew Voshell

Doesn't Tor exist only to provide a lot of traffic to hide the communication of spys? - Roger Shepherd

And Smart Drones - Moe Glitz

Don't get me started about trying to work with govt agencies on their websites. Yuk. Glad that's over. - Laura Norvig

And then there's A.I. Check out what this group of thought leaders is up to: http://futureoflife.org/misc... - Alex de Soto

@John i haven't heard about that but regardless if its breached the traffic is bounced around so breaking encryption wouldnt matter.. right? i could be completely wrong on this - Matthew Voshell

**** FREEDOM **** - Jerry Schuman

He's right... people willingly give up data making zuckerberg and other rich... they aren't making us - Matthew Voshell

now the government can have an "FBI" file on everyone. used to be just a few - Tina Chase Gillmor

Topic suggestion: Facebook for Work, mock-ups released yesterday, thought about it for my company but can you trust the data on there not ending up in wrong hands via corp espionage http://techcrunch.com/2015... - Matthew Voshell

It's called a Facebook Profile, Tina - Moe Glitz

I think the breach allowed insight into the data wrapped up by the onion servers. I don't know enough -- it's still better than almost everything. - John Taschek

it's me. - Tina Chase Gillmor

Xfinity rules! - Tom Guarriello

moe - yes, exactly - Tina Chase Gillmor

@Steve... south park has your back https://www.youtube.com/watch... - Matthew Voshell

Facebook & Twitter not doing enough to take down a lot of ISIS Propaganda - Moe Glitz

talk about the mad rush to unbundling which industry said would NEVER happen - Jerry Schuman

Nor did the Lego move - christina sponselli

but jaimie foxx won for Ray right? - Matthew Voshell

Guys I hate to say this. But I do not think African Americans need to be concerned these days about Oscar nominations - Tony Stanislawski

Wait...Aren't we in a post-racial society...? - Tom Guarriello

Apparently the Oscar Nominations are 'All White' - Moe Glitz

They are more worried about what is going on in the real world - Tony Stanislawski

isn't Selma up for best picture? - Tina Chase Gillmor

Director of "Selma" on the daily show, great interview http://thedailyshow.cc.com/episode... - Matthew Voshell

Symbolism, Tony, symbolism... - Tom Guarriello

Yes. Selma is up for Best Picture and Best Song. - Alex de Soto

Most Blacks these days are saying what Civil Right movement? - Tony Stanislawski

I know Tom! - Tony Stanislawski

Yea... Chris Hemsworth know tech? ooooooooooooooooooooooooook, what hacker looks like that? i bet he doesnt even drink Monster energy drink in the movie - Matthew Voshell

Roger - I do think they are quite sophisticated - Keith Teare

Just frustrating....If this show talks about Oscar nominations then it needs to talk about Ferguson... - Tony Stanislawski

Master Chef Junior is the place to identify talent!!! - Tom Guarriello

http://oscar.go.com/nominees - Tina Chase Gillmor

In 1975 The Homebrew Computer Club launched the PC Revolution. 40 Years later we should honour those visionaries. http://t.co/BgolM6ZqyW - Moe Glitz

Have there been any updates on the Sorkin Jobs movie? So bummed Christian Bale passed - Matthew Voshell

Woz and Jobs checked in. Even Bill Gates - Moe Glitz

Do watch "Ida." Nominated for Foreign Language Film and Cinematography. It's on Amazon now. Amazing cinematography. - Alex de Soto

That was Alex Scoble on FB - Tony Stanislawski

"junk science" PONO - Tom Guarriello

Got in a big fight with the Birthday Boy - Tony Stanislawski

The Scoble thread about Pono in Facebook is hilarious. Arguing with his brother tl;dr - Laura Norvig

Coke Pepsi redux... - Tom Guarriello

Pono is crazy expensive too...kinda funky design...Neil Young is still the man though.. but old age might be catching up to him - Matthew Voshell

that's the same in our house. I hate that - Tina Chase Gillmor

Coke! Pono! - Laura Norvig

Ella doesn't like loud music - Tina Chase Gillmor

The Sorkin Jobs Movie looks like a remake of the previous one - Moe Glitz

+1 Laura - Tom Guarriello

@Moe... Sorkin wrote it... and he said previously is going to focus on 3 points in job's life... i have faith in the writing.. but it has to be played by the right person.. Bale was perfect from both attitude and looks... - Matthew Voshell

Should do a movie when Jobs returned to Apple, up until he sadly died - Moe Glitz

@Moe what i've heard is that it starts with him debuting the iphone and then having flash backs during the speech - Matthew Voshell

Regarding quality - I really like Tidal - sounds much better than Spotify - Roger Shepherd

If Scoble was here this would be a good fight. :) - Tony Stanislawski

Things sound great on my Alexa from Amazon! - Tony Stanislawski

I'm bluetooth from my macbook to Jabra Move... $99 sounds great with 12 hour battery - Matthew Voshell

True Matthew. But it still covers the same time period as the Aston Kutcher version - Moe Glitz

Meanwhile, the music itself... - Tom Guarriello

Have a nice weekend y'all! - J.C. Bouvier

Yea.. .called his life haha what did you expect.. no i think they'll leave chunks out.. who knows.. Sorkin will teach us the ways to write well, which includes cocaine and 20 showers a day (google it) - Matthew Voshell

Heard it's the iPod like the other movie - Moe Glitz

HD has the same issues with compression... ESPN HD is amazing but Fox's is AWFUL, idk what compression they use - Matthew Voshell

gosh I love when nerdy men spout out model numbers - Tina Chase Gillmor

#nerdboner - Matthew Voshell

@tina LOL - Tony Stanislawski

Those are fighting words, Marks!! - Tom Guarriello

Vinyl is making a comeback too http://theweek.com/article... - Matthew Voshell

which relies on compression, recording, players, headphones... so many variables - Matthew Voshell

I really liked the way HBO recorded the live music on Treme. You felt that you were right in the room. - Alex de Soto

the cable co's vary compression by channel to save bandwidth, yes - Kevin Marks

Uh, that's not just in tech ... - Laura Norvig

Oh sure. When Sheryl says what women are always saying, well then people notice - Tina Chase Gillmor

Is Facebook At Work anything more than Secret Groups? We use those for our classes and they work very well. - Tom Guarriello

Over to the Enterprise answer from John - Moe Glitz

@Tina what do you think about being a woman in tech? - Matthew Voshell

The joke about Facebook at Work is that there already a product that does it. It is called Facebook. - christina sponselli

Tricaster long pause. Maybe comcast. - clive boulton

Im on the periphery not so much in th trenches. BUT my friends are constantly talking about how much they are up against shitty attitudes - Tina Chase Gillmor

Secret Facebook Groups are great for sharing information amongst affiliated groups. Lots of functionality, of course, and everyone's familiar with the interface. - Tom Guarriello

Yea is like secrete facebook groups with a newsfeed.. plus do companies trust put thier info on there? - Matthew Voshell

Why would Work colleagues use Facebook@Work when they can just shout across the room to them - Moe Glitz

I put FB at work in context with revelations from Snapchat conversation post-Sony hack. Getting ready for bubble pop finds them running for shelter into the enterprise. Right, @KevinMarks like Slack. Video chat has great potential in the enterprise for same reason as Google Glass, eg facilities operations. Blogged about this www.buildingcontext.me - Therese Sullivan

Very hard to trust - John Taschek

what does salesforce use? - kat turning

Chatter - Kevin Marks

+1 Therese Sullivan (enterprise cover when the bubble pops) - clive boulton

turn that shit off, Boys - Tina Chase Gillmor

the products are great... but people have to use it.... which is hard for employees over 30 - Matthew Voshell

It heard us talking about it ... (Slack) - Laura Norvig

we use TeamworkPM and link it to Google Drive - Matthew Voshell

@Matthew - not sure I agree with the ageism but for reluctant users you basically have to put something they HAVE to get behind the tool. They'll get used to it. - Laura Norvig

@Laura.. i agree.. but ive been spending the past 3 weeks at work explaining to our older sales force (45 and older) and i have to teach them repeatedly how to even add a video call to a google cal invite let alone our PM/Sales cloud software - Matthew Voshell

Ha, that's actually pretty advanced ... where I work there's a lot of email attachments. smh. Even though we have Chatter and Sharepoint. - Laura Norvig

right, having a good document repository is hard - Kevin Marks

@laura.... hahaha yep... care to join me when i bash my head against the wall over and over again? :/ - Matthew Voshell

sharepoint is not a good one, Quip or Google docs are better - Kevin Marks

John Taschek is sinking - Tina Chase Gillmor

Yeah, Sharepoint makes it hard to convince people they should use a system like that. - Laura Norvig

I wrote a thing today about indieweb tools: http://www.kevinmarks.com/we-like... - Kevin Marks

we use google drive and ive setup a google site but no one ever looks at it... JT has it right... i'm having to reteach these guys how to work... they are stuck in the old paradigm... - Matthew Voshell

slack with gdocs integration is quite good - Kevin Marks

Our CEO solved email attachment's. He had the IT guy disconnect the exchange server and put into in a taxi, then fired the IT guy. Kick ass! - clive boulton

It takes a ton of training, adoption from the C-suite, and sometimes mandated practices. I guess. Or I could just go work with people who understand cloud repositories - Laura Norvig

@Clive that is awesome! - Tony Stanislawski

@Kevin slack is great... but seems to be better suited for Devs etc, was tough sell to my workforce - Matthew Voshell

Where was the taxi going? - John Taschek

Kevin has a great gigle - Tina Chase Gillmor

giggle - Tina Chase Gillmor

@John It went to where I work and more broadly the educational systemt - Tony Stanislawski

I love this topic! - Tony Stanislawski

Kevin is right... living on the line b/t synchronous/asynchronous world is the tight rope i walk daily - Matthew Voshell

lost sound - Kevin Marks

can you call me back tina - Kevin Marks

@Steve exactly - Tony Stanislawski

I can't hear steve - Kevin Marks

@Tony. The exchange server was in Ohio, exchange server taxied to Boston. Took them 6 weeks to get it back after they had learned to dogfood our own Chatter/Sharepoint. - clive boulton

and Franco is still dead. - Laura Norvig

Laura he, he, he - Tina Chase Gillmor

@Clive Awesome Sauce@ - Tony Stanislawski

consumption vastly out weigh productivity. said Kieth. very good comment - kat turning

call back again - Kevin Marks

What happened to Box? - Laura Norvig

i am - Tina Chase Gillmor

callme kevin - Tina Chase Gillmor

#2? - Kevin Marks

y - Tina Chase Gillmor

yay - Kevin Marks

next couple of week - Apples results are due out week after next.... .they'll cause discussion and debate (whatever the results0 - Roger Shepherd

finally got Kevin back - Tina Chase Gillmor

Enterprise software morphs to cloud-enabled hybrid-SaaS. Google Search Appliance! - clive boulton

@Keith I am with you! - Tony Stanislawski

Apple Watch will be the game changer - Tony Stanislawski

It might incremental but it will start the change - Tony Stanislawski

tony - what's your take on the watch? - Tina Chase Gillmor

First Watches will be made cool again - Tony Stanislawski

Which is a big deal - Tony Stanislawski

@Tony i have my doubts about watch... kinda see it as the Tesla Model S, it works, its nice, but expensive and only certain people can afford it... - Matthew Voshell

350 starting - Tony Stanislawski

not sure that is an argument - Tony Stanislawski

Google has lost its vision by removing Google Glass - Moe Glitz

Google needs to innovate the search experience. Feels stale. - clive boulton

most people don't buy pricy watches - Kevin Marks

That haves will have it..it will get cheaper...and change the computing paradigm - Tony Stanislawski

My guess - Tony Stanislawski

That's pretty funny, Moe! - John Taschek

but those who do will buy apple ones - Kevin Marks

Google making a spectacle of itself without Glass - John Taschek

haha! - clive boulton

A glasshole without glass is just a hole - John Taschek

ok dick tracey... i mean tony - Matthew Voshell

Lol john - Moe Glitz

@JT... Yes! lol, Proctologists Dream, wall to wall assholes - Matthew Voshell

Show sure is different without Robert - nb not better, not worse but DIFFERENT - Roger Shepherd

Scoble's most famous photo has to be in the shower with glass - clive boulton

nama the show!!! - Tina Chase Gillmor

Google's Search UI on Mobile sucks - Moe Glitz

RIP Rock Scully ... - Laura Norvig

@Clive - I had only recently erased that image from my memory, and now it's right back there - John Taschek

Stuck in the 90's - Moe Glitz

The search UI is fairly bad -- but the mic UI is good. - John Taschek

I'll try the next Glass. It will be better UI - Francine Hardaway

@John - exactly! sorry:) - clive boulton

And maybe Barry Sless who plays with Moonalice and DNB ... - Laura Norvig

See ya'll next week! - Matthew Voshell

Google's search experince hasn't changed since Marissa oversaw it. - clive boulton

@Laura. Cool if Chubby Wombat guests on the Gillmor Gang. - clive boulton

yes it has clive - Kevin Marks

Not very much. Marrisa was the Vice President of Google Product Search until the end of 2010: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - clive boulton

Friends

Login

Service