Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PST participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
Morton Fox,
Alex de Soto,
Stephen Pickering,
clive boulton,
dlature,
Michael Roberts,
and
Ankush Narula
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I guess FriendFeed is not posting to Twitter. I didn't expect a show today. Didn't see it on Steve's Twitter. Glad I stopped by.
- Stephen Pickering
Same here, I just check his twitter feed and there was nothing, but decided to stop by. good to catch the show live.
- Michael Roberts
I heard "testing, 1, 2" then nothing ...
- Laura Norvig
doc and I are waiting for the call
- Kevin Marks
cool, thx. brb.
- Laura Norvig
What's the deal with Roku and Youtube. Can they not run ads when the video is in HTML5?
- Stephen Pickering
so FriendFeed still works. Glad I guessed well at my login and password. Been awhile.
- Doc
Arrington was so right, the best service no one will use. :-)
- Stephen Pickering
Well, we used it when Scoble said it was cool, but after it got sold, pffft.
- Doc
So we should be doing this on Flipboard now
- Ankush Narula
And in 3D
- Alex de Soto
I just love how silky smooth it runs. Really feels "Real Time"
- Stephen Pickering
ha
- Ankush Narula
is there friendfeed app for the ipad yet?
- Michael Roberts
it's friendfeed.com
- Kevin Marks
Flipboard is the most beautiful way I know to induce a brain cramp.
- Doc
It's like the paint aisle at Lowe's: http://onion.com/exYjoE
- Doc
GG coming up.
- Doc
I hope.
- Doc
Stephen, that would make me "no one" ...
- Laura Norvig
There's Doc
- Ankush Narula
We have ignition
- Jerry Schuman
John has a halo.
- Doc
Same processor? It has an Apple A4 in it? don't think so...
- Jerry Schuman
I can see it!
- Laura Norvig
cortex a8
- Ankush Narula
Detailed reporting from china by the very thorough @Charbax on the explosion of low cost Android tablets and phones: http://bit.ly/gQx6dK
- Kevin Marks
its was 23 Million iPhones
- Jerry Schuman
iPhone sales - 30% US 70% international
- Ankush Narula
Will AT&T be able to have LTE?
- Stephen Pickering
"Bandwidth Wastefulness" brought to you buy the FCC and media cartels
- Ankush Narula
China was huge for iPhone too
- Kevin Marks
Comcast vs Netflix
- Ankush Narula
it's not all free at the moment - the TV part of my cable bill is huge
- Kevin Marks
Can't fuck them. They're a Monopoly
- Stephen Pickering
LTE is capped at 5GB
- Ankush Narula
sorry, the actual number of iPhones sold were 18.65 million. I added in iPads
- Jerry Schuman
did they say how many were from china, Jerry?
- Kevin Marks
LOTS
- Jerry Schuman
who stole John's theater lights
- clive boulton
I know that the Bejing store is doing more business then NY
- Jerry Schuman
Damn, that's 20%!
- Stephen Pickering
do you think video entertainment will all go to streaming, ala carte style?
- Laura Norvig
iPhone sales in “Greater China” surged nearly 250 percent over the same period, year-on-year. That brings Apple's fiscal first half to almost $5 billion in revenue from China alone--four times more than the same period in 2010, and accounting for a whopping 10 percent of Apple's overall revenue.
Read more: http://techland.time.com/2011...
- Jerry Schuman
Weird Apple sues Samsung, when its #3 iPad component supplier.
- clive boulton
I don't believe the 100,000 paid sub numbers for NYT
- Jerry Schuman
how will it all work with ad revenue, though? who will get the revenue - networks? providers? will networks still exist?
- Laura Norvig
ad revenue will continue to shrink as a proportion of TV revenue.
- Kevin Marks
I wouldn't say Hulu is "whatever you want". It's whatever they have, as they try to negotiate complex licensing deals.
- Laura Norvig
I don't agree with Danny - it's not all current mainstream stuff but there's a lot of good stuff
- Ankush Narula
Dick Van Dyke Show!
- Laura Norvig
@Clive. .. I am moving today and I am in an empty room in the dark :) no jokes please.
- John Taschek
Just upgrade the account and get 3 DVDs at a time until eventually they get more good streaming stuff
- Stephen Pickering
GoogleTV channel controller, like navigating w/ Ouija board
- clive boulton
I have lost yet another apple remote controller
- Kevin Marks
Why don't TV and Movies just bypass everything and distribute on the internet?
- Stephen Pickering
they are beginning to
- Kevin Marks
Stephen, for a fee?
- Laura Norvig
Sure, for a fee. Every movie has a website, why not show the movie there?
- Stephen Pickering
Stephen - most people still consume via legacy broadcast and VOD - they'd be giving up a lot of viewership
- Ankush Narula
but it's definitely more efficient
- Ankush Narula
Well do like Apple does, sell from your website and through stores
- Stephen Pickering
@John if someone slides a pizza under the door, welcome to R&D.
- clive boulton
it means it won't stream smoothly!
- Laura Norvig
true BBC in the US would be awesome
- Ankush Narula
unbuggered
- Ankush Narula
*hearing Austin Powers singing*
- Laura Norvig
Cadburys eggs & Dr Who, Life is good.
- clive boulton
doc's shirt is very rad man! love it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think BBC iPlayer says that they might be ahead of the pack
- Ankush Narula
bbc global iplayer is supposed to be coming out this year - http://bit.ly/gJhVjK
- Michael Roberts
that's great!
- Ankush Narula
Ooh, season pass for Doctor Who on iTunes: http://itunes.apple.com/us...
- Kevin Marks
but I just use the livestation apple app download is free and the I can watch the bbc content
- Michael Roberts
It all starts when usage rights are negotiated when creating the content.
- Alex de Soto
Doc looks like an extra from a Star Trek Movie
- Moe Glitz
ha
- Ankush Narula
often earlier - theBbBC do co-prodcution deals with funding coming from the US distributors
- Kevin Marks
even better if there becomes a new model where consumers and advertisers pay the people who produce the content directly. Technical providers would facilitate the provision of the content and get a cut but there would be no "distribution" companies per se.
- Laura Norvig
Right you are Kevin!
- Alex de Soto
AWS snafu?
- Laura Norvig
Laura: yes - that's the bigger story
- Ankush Narula
the story is how clueless people are?
- Laura Norvig
AWS snafu or Overconnected http://www.davidow.com/overcon...
- clive boulton
didn't they know about finding people who are trapped in mines or snowstorms?
- Laura Norvig
the carriers have had this same data FOREVER
- Jerry Schuman
there's no law in the U.S. against private companies invading your privacy
- Ankush Narula
So why do we have to Check-in anymore?
- Moe Glitz
You don't have control.
- Laura Norvig
particularly after you consent to their TOS
- Ankush Narula
If the NSA is supposed to protect us, why are they tracking and investigating us? We're not the terrorists!
- Stephen Pickering
If you believe that you have any "real" privacy you're sadly delusional
- Jerry Schuman
privacy laws go against freedom ethos (or do they)
- clive boulton
Even if you deleted all your gmail, are you sure there's no copy there?
- Alex de Soto
http://www.f-secure.com/weblog... iPhoen sends your location data to Apple
- Kevin Marks
If the carriers know exactly where we are, why don't they just Check us in, for us!
- Moe Glitz
and Google says it does the same thing
- Jerry Schuman
Great article about this: https://alexlevinson.wordpress.com/2011...
- Alex de Soto
SimpleGeo just freely licensed its location database
- Jerry Schuman
"Apple claims the collected geodata is stored on the iOS device, then anonymized with a random identification number generated every 24 hours by the iOS device, and finally transmitted over an encrypted Wi-Fi network every 12 hours (or later if there’s no Wi-Fi available) to Apple. That means Apple and its partners can’t use this collected geodata to personally identify a user."
- Ankush Narula
How many people know that photos taken with most digital cameras have embedded location data?
- Jerry Schuman
Doc Strange!
- Moe Glitz
The second cloud is the NSA's cloud!
- Ankush Narula
Ankush: nailed it!
- Alex de Soto
24 hours of location data is probably enough to identify your home and office, and correlating between 24 hour traces per user is very doable
- Kevin Marks
I can't ask the government to delete the video they took of me oh these many years ago ... http://www.clicker.com/movie...
- Laura Norvig
Kevin: to what end? I think it's pretty clear that you can turn of GPS/Location Services on iPhone/Android if you don't want this information logged - most people get that
- Ankush Narula
Even the Sony Playstation Cloud is down!
- Moe Glitz
It should be more of a "block" thing than a delete thing. For the instances Danny is talking about - child safety, privacy (cheating on your wife?)
- Laura Norvig
I mean saying 'anonymized' is tricky. remember the AOL 'aonnymized' search logs
- Kevin Marks
Today if you want to murder someone, it will best to leave your mobile at home?
- Moe Glitz
Try this: http://www.reputation.com/
- Alex de Soto
they do geoip on google
- Kevin Marks
neighbour has started cutting his lawn behind me..
- Kevin Marks
Danny's conversation got you hooked, Kevin!
- Moe Glitz
I thought we already agreed that we are Google's product and their customers are the ad buyers/sellers?
- Ankush Narula
I don't need your iPhone to figure out where you live.... my credit card will allow me to purchase that data readily
- Jerry Schuman
3 years later, I'm not sure I've ever agreed with anything Steve has ever said
- Darren
lots of people don't know that google keeps their search history when they are logged in ... it's not something they remind you of everyday.
- Laura Norvig
neighbors cutting lawn is telecommuting hazard (esp hosting a webex)
- clive boulton
They've had your location data FOREVER at the carriers
- Jerry Schuman
gillmor gangs got your location!
- clive boulton
I'm a hell of a lot more concerned that law enforcement can place a GPS device on your car without a warrant
- Jerry Schuman
BTW, you can delete your location history data on Google here: https://www.google.com/latitud...
- Ankush Narula
Apple gives you a "Location Services" panel in preferences which you can turn off. How easy is it to turn off tracking on Google?
- Alex de Soto
https://www.google.com/latitud... has stopped thinking I work in Austin texas at least
- Kevin Marks
Orwellian
- Stephen Pickering
Alex, just don't log in ...
- Laura Norvig
steve deliberately says things opposite convention to explore new.
- clive boulton
then why did google take down phone book?
- Laura Norvig
nakedness - it's a feature!
- Laura Norvig
I thought he just said that Obama got a woody
- Jerry Schuman
clive - yep
- Tina Chase Gillmor
And the taxes paid on that jet
- Stephen Pickering
Bam got a woody, PhD in irony - haiku
- clive boulton
A silent Check-in!
- Moe Glitz
if he crashes...are we in Social Media bubble or not...
- clive boulton
Android allows toggling location srvcs on single setting
- clive boulton
Is John coming from The Twilight Zone?
- Moe Glitz
Larry Sanders Show is streaming on Netflix, all 6 seasons. Highly recommend
- Stephen Pickering
so if I buy a season pass on iTunes for Doctor Who, does that work on Apple TV too?
- Kevin Marks
Kevin, yes.
- Jerry Schuman
John said he's moving. The lights got ahead of the man.
- clive boulton
As Louis CK says, "Everything's amazing, and we're still pissed off" or something like that
- Stephen Pickering
@moe interesting you said that. I just reminded Steve of the Canamid episode of the Twilight Zone. Anyway .. Yes. I believe I am. Or maybe that was yet another meeting:)
- John Taschek