Gillmor Gang Live Friday 01.30.15 LIVE recording at 1pm PT/4pm ET http://ustream.tv/GillmorGang
Here - Keith Teare
We're waiting for the famous call. - Robert Scoble
keith can you0 call in on Newsgangone - Tina Chase Gillmor
keith trying to contact you via skype - Tina Chase Gillmor
excellent. Horses in the gate. - Tina Chase Gillmor
Hi - Ian Waring
weird ringing noise from someone - Kevin Marks
No - tasks are getting smaller bits - Ian Waring
Don't need a larger screen - Ian Waring
hello folks!!! - Tina Chase Gillmor
London checking in - Scott Jones
Scoble can't wait to try Outlook for iOS - Tom Guarriello
hello London! - Tina Chase Gillmor
50 miles west of London checked in! - Ian Waring
Any truth to this rumor of security issues with Outlook for iOS and Android? http://www.tomshardware.com/news... - Alex de Soto
Thanks Tina x Have to say...and cant believe I am saying this...Windows 10 is actually pretty bloomin good - Scott Jones
Labels still seem to be the big email stumbling block - Tom Guarriello
Google has been lazy for years. No focus. Look at Google Search - Moe Glitz
Exchange calendar also links up with Microsoft Lync and shows your status on Lync if you're in a meeting. - Alex de Soto
studio cat is raising a fuss - Tina Chase Gillmor
IT'S OUTLOOK!!! HOW INNOVATIVE CAN IT BE?? (Sorry!) - Tom Guarriello
Moving forward since Ballmer left - Moe Glitz
Dos was a buy in - Ian Waring
Was genuinely going to ditch microsoft, completely. Have set up windows 10 and suddenly I'm like...erm...ok..they have one last chance. Will say email wise that inbox by google is pretty decent. - Scott Jones
Riveting, guys! - Tom Guarriello
The Mac Outlook client is still a dog. Does the iOS App support non-Exchange POP/IMAP? - J.C. Bouvier
iterative progress - Tina Chase Gillmor
I give Microsoft a last chance every two years! - John Taschek
hahahha - Scott Jones
email "bucket of crap" - Tina Chase Gillmor
I have to use Exchange and the iOS app works very well and very fast. Notifications are good because the app uses something called "Focused" which somehow figures out what's important, mostly based on your contacts. - Alex de Soto
The Outlook IOS and Android Preview work with pop, exchange, gmail - John Taschek
wait, did Robert just compare himself to Bill Gates? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Yes, Tina, we did hear that... - Tom Guarriello
Handle? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Consumers ditching email only Enterprise still using it - Moe Glitz
Tx John. - J.C. Bouvier
thanks Tom - Tina Chase Gillmor
I don't think the UI is better than Google's own -- it's a few functions that make the difference (which are part of user experience). But it's just fascinating -- it's like email is getting new life - John Taschek
He's heating up, People - Tina Chase Gillmor
*Ding* - J.C. Bouvier
iOS Outlook has "Focused," emails from your contacts, and "Other" which is everything else. "Quick Filter" shows: Unread, Flagged and Files (with attachments). - Alex de Soto
did my tech crunch link go out. Usually more folks in this chat - Tina Chase Gillmor
Aren't Surfaces making a splash? Their NFL partnership seems to be going very well - Tom Guarriello
Previous versions of their own products has traditionally been their biggest competitors - Ian Waring
+100 Keith, Nadela said as much in his keynote comments; platform agnostic, experience centric...if he's serious, they've certainly got the runway... - J.C. Bouvier
Tom: only relative to past failure. Still too small a business, and if software is the futur, hardware is a distraction - Keith Teare
No doubt, Keith. Just looks like a bit of hardware success - Tom Guarriello
Think Microsoft may have to acquire to find new business revenues - Moe Glitz
Nothing like open sores coders - Frank Paynter
How about Amazon throwing Wall St a profit bone and getting a huge bump today? - Tom Guarriello
Hey, Windows Phone will support FLAC in Windows 10...don't know that it's a game changer...but there's an influential audience looking for the feature...they're doing things that guys like us are paying attention to...does it translate to cohesive ecosystem is the qeustion. - J.C. Bouvier
J.C. there aren't enough people who care about FLAC to matter. NOT A SINGLE ENTREPRENEUR at Techstars in San Antonio was carrying a Windows Phone. It's totally dead and not coming back. - Robert Scoble
39% gross margins...crazy talk. - J.C. Bouvier
Not everyone has to do 18 billion a quarter like Apple ... 5 or 10 with a software business are nice, too. - Johannes Siemers
Nice. John is very chatty today. I like that. fiesty - Tina Chase Gillmor
FLAC is nothing special. apple lossless is equivalent; uncompressed is only twice as big - Kevin Marks
Can Apple ramp to 100m iPhones a quarter...Q4 next year? - J.C. Bouvier
Apple has an integrated hyperfocus throughout design to sales and support. Everyone else is marginalized. - Arnie Klaus
Apple need the Watch to succeed, cause right now it's all about the iPhone - Moe Glitz
Apple has figured out how to ace the phone upgrade cycle. - Alex de Soto
The iPod is dying and the iPad sales are stalling - Moe Glitz
Yah, getting Chinese consumers to pay luxury prices against native vendors at 8 units to 1 is a real thing... - J.C. Bouvier
The China market was huge for Apple -- and it came at a time when the flagship Android vendors didn't come up with enough design (i.e., Samsung) - John Taschek
If there is a full Apple TV in stealth mode, now is the time to push it forward - Moe Glitz
Xaomi is doing OK - Kevin Marks
1.4 Billion Android Smartphones shipped? - John Taschek
Scoble switched back - Tina Chase Gillmor
@Kevin, I'm w/you, I'm not a real FLAC guy, just saying... - J.C. Bouvier
And China market is not proving as price sensitive as was commonly assumed. As China's economic growth continues, Apple's 40 new stores there will be hugely productive. - Tom Guarriello
An iPhone 6+ is about 1/2 the size of an iPad Mini. - Ian Waring
utterly disagree with Scoble. Apple is US ONLY. - Scott Jones
Speaking as a data point... I'm swapping back, my android for an iPhone ASAP. - Frank Paynter
Nice John, Sierra Nevada? ;) - J.C. Bouvier
Scott absolutely not true. Same numbers exist EVERYWHERE I meet with entrepreneurs. - Robert Scoble
I find tasks are taking less and less screen real estate - Ian Waring
According to App Annie, there are more Android app downloads though -- Google Play generated nearly 60 percent more worldwide app downloads in 2014. - Nir Ben Yona
Samsung is the new Blackberry. - J.C. Bouvier
NBC live steaming Super Bowl to all without signing in with cable provider info. - christina sponselli
Apple also succeeded in creating products that generate recurring revenues. First with the iPod (music) and now with the phone (apps) and iPad (apps and media). - Alex de Soto
Samsung still have a chance as their new Galaxy looks a carbon copy of the iPhone - Moe Glitz
Agreed... Samsung kinda blew it. The phone is well designed, but the data flows are out of control. Google eats up all of my data every month. - Frank Paynter
Its also about how much powerful and intelligence the skunkworks that a comapny has. - Arnie Klaus
Howdy geek friends - Laura Norvig
plane - Kevin Marks
Just got the Meizu MX4 Pro -- The most powerful smartphone on earth right now. - Nir Ben Yona
I really need to order more Gillmor Gang mugs. - Tina Chase Gillmor
gmail, G+ photos and like that - Frank Paynter
ageed keith - Arnie Klaus
anyone interested in GG coffee mugs? - Tina Chase Gillmor
or something else? - Tina Chase Gillmor
I'd order one, Tina - Tom Guarriello
@tina sure! I love coffee and I love GG - Laura Norvig
set your photo upload to wifi only frank - Kevin Marks
I've heard data consumption issues with iPhones too. The more apps you have.... - Alex de Soto
good enough for me. Ill plan for some nice ones - Tina Chase Gillmor
look at your data profile, frank, which apps are using it - Kevin Marks
Thanks kevin, sounds like a good idea - Frank Paynter
Facebook Videos loading non stop - Moe Glitz
Unlimited here for less than $20 per month inc HSPA+ and LTE - and 10GB/month when in many places abroad - Ian Waring
Need that app on all platforms that will help reduce consumption - Arnie Klaus
Inc the USA - Ian Waring
what about Amazon getting into enterprise email? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Software is eating my Data - Moe Glitz
i could be wrong, but I feel that Google Maps uses more data on my iPhone than other navigation apps like Navigon or even Apple Maps. - Alex de Soto
normals don't know how to change all these settings, come on - Laura Norvig
Cats are well designed accessories. - Arnie Klaus
yeah, that's when we got married, early 90s. oh course Steve doesn't remember - Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin Bloefield - Moe Glitz
Bricked my iPad mini too - Ian Waring
The chat is limited to 20 people. - Nir Ben Yona
You DM and then can add additional folks, Kevin. - christina sponselli
FB messenger - Tina Chase Gillmor
it wouldn't be like the FF experience if it doesn't archive and display well - Laura Norvig
Google Maps - has layers that can be turned on or off. I think Waze also used more data. It's doing more? - John Taschek
Twitter lacks internal vision. Users made that company - Moe Glitz
Why did so many folks come to Dick Costelo's defense this week? Was he under fire? - J.C. Bouvier
93 people on Friendfeed - Tom Guarriello
I'm lurking. - Robert Scoble
I'm lurking! - Roger Shepherd
Use slack at work. Very good. - Ian Waring
At least half is what they're saying... - J.C. Bouvier
Hello, I was lurking! - Tony Stanislawski
Now 95 - Tom Guarriello
I'm lurking. - Alex de Soto
CHEESE - Scott Jones
Lurking :) - Simon Benvenutto
I'm lurking - Robin Jewsbury
I'm lurking! - Nir Ben Yona
i'm lurking ;) - Jan Winter
lurking - Sam Harrelson
Making Coffee - Darius Dunlap
Very interesting lurkers - Tina Chase Gillmor
Okay... now, who is twerking? - Frank Paynter
Join in peeps - Tina Chase Gillmor
You hit 20 already. - Alex de Soto
#lurking - me too - John Taschek
we'dlove to have some of you visit in the chat for G3. Lonley there so far, right Darius? - Tina Chase Gillmor
The Lurking Gang - Moe Glitz
Isn't the core issue with DM on Twitter Just how many people mistake a 'private' channel with the 'public' version? It's been the undoing of plenty... - Monty Hamilton
that was more an sms problem monty - Kevin Marks
Excellent set up, Keith! - Tom Guarriello
less likely with the web or the app clients - Kevin Marks
Set up an IRC channel if you want to replace FriendFeed - Jeff
Ding! The secret "woid": notifications. Tina: You should have a duck come down when that word is first mentioned. - Alex de Soto
@Kevin - The proximity of two messaging channels in the UI is just confusing - nobody uses Twitter via SMS/Text here in Australia - it's always been in the app... FB is fundamentally different UI - Monty Hamilton
drinking game. used to be "track" now it's "notifications" - Laura Norvig
a notification sound effect - Kevin Marks
you need an app to have a notiication - Robin Jewsbury
we don't have radar detectors anymore - Tina Chase Gillmor
FB split the app deliberately - Kevin Marks
need cop finders - Tina Chase Gillmor
in my view to make notifications clearer - Kevin Marks
have to return to the stand-alone radar detector - Frank Paynter
Notification enable efficient response only. - Jeff
i still flash my lights! - Tony Stanislawski
why would they take that out. it's good for people to slow down. and it's not as if cop cars are incognito ... - Laura Norvig
me tooTony - Tina Chase Gillmor
Response + Intelligence is the future of notifications; otherwise it is nothing but a pager on steroids - John Taschek
Yah, what's the API from FriendFeed into SFDC? - J.C. Bouvier
Notification aware Siri... - J.C. Bouvier
I'm bummed I missed G3 this week. Had a con. call while you were recording, Tina. - Darius Dunlap
Of course the guys aren't going to talk about the Newsweek article/cover - Tina Chase Gillmor
Notifications don't support me when I want to post - Jeff
Jack Dorsey: Twitter is the closest thing we have to a global consciousness. And I believe the world needs that right now. - clive boulton
you guys should really make notes ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
Twitter needs to find a revenue model - Moe Glitz
2 percent are creators; 98 percent are librarians - Jeff. Notifications is for the librarians - John Taschek
Google needs Twitter for conscious real-time search. - clive boulton
shesgeeky is on today isn't it - Kevin Marks
Fair comment John. maybe I'm part of the 2% - Jeff
what about just listen - Tina Chase Gillmor
or let women speech in meetings? - Tina Chase Gillmor
or invite them onto boards? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Tacky cover. But that's what the Media think of women - Moe Glitz
or..... - Tina Chase Gillmor
Me I thought the cover fit the article - Tina Chase Gillmor
or have them on Gillmor Gang - Robin Jewsbury
but many people totally disagree with me - Tina Chase Gillmor
Amelia's post was excellent, obvious the real MVC founder. - clive boulton
There is pattern matching that is meaningful and pattern matching that is bullshit. The former is much more rare than the latter. - Darius Dunlap
link Clive? - Tina Chase Gillmor
men have children too - Kevin Marks
But when it's your own pattern matching, it's very difficult to recognize one from the other - Darius Dunlap
I just posted it tina - Kevin Marks
you'e both right - Tina Chase Gillmor
Has anybody else watched the brilliant woman in a meeting get her idea stolen, co-opted, and adopted by the alpha male who is happy to take credit for the stolen idea? - Frank Paynter
Yep, Tine. But personal confidence is not the whole story. - Darius Dunlap
few women learn to "brag", "strut their stuff", etc - Tina Chase Gillmor
it's not about favors - Tina Chase Gillmor
heard Maxine Williams - Facebook diversity person - on a podcast just the other day - can't remember which podcast - a lot about need to be way more deliberate in recruiting and hiring for diversity - Laura Norvig
yes laura, that's what I was saying - Kevin Marks
good question steve - Tina Chase Gillmor
Frank: Skill always been getting the alpha male (or female) to adopt and take credit for your idea. - clive boulton
a "male" view - Tina Chase Gillmor
absolutely - Jeff
I've said before, if you are having trouble deciding between a "guy like me" and another person, woman, black man, whatever... Pick the latter, because they had to be better to get where they are. - Darius Dunlap
Friendfeed and the live broadcast are so out of sync for me. There's a delay with the video on Ustream or with Friendfeed. A seven second broadcast delay? Maybe that's a good thing. - Alex de Soto
the supply of smart white young male engineers is so abundant ... - Laura Norvig
always, always, always have a diverse work force. It's just good business. - Jeff
can't see it scoble - Kevin Marks
Men who think that way are less than men. And only Men can change that. - Darius Dunlap
How many women are on the boards of any major company, never mind Tech - Moe Glitz
"Us" are humans - Tina Chase Gillmor
Clive: sometimes getting the idea out there is more important than the credit, but getting credit for the idea increases a person's capital... women get ripped off over and over in my experience - Frank Paynter
Good point Tina. - Simon Benvenutto
VC look for "strong" founders. But what does a "strong" founder look like? - Tina Chase Gillmor
This is an excellent study from Harvard. Not tech-related, but very apropos: http://www.law.harvard.edu/student... - Alex de Soto
like them when they were younger, in general - Kevin Marks
because someone believed in her - Tina Chase Gillmor
Frank: good point. - clive boulton
There's zero excuse for the Valley to white/asian male dominated - Jeff
Yep, Tina. They may be better served by looking for thoughtful and intelligent founders. - Darius Dunlap
YMCA Combinator - Kevin Marks
Ha! Excellent, Kevin - Darius Dunlap
It wasn't for women's benefit. It was for the war effort - Tina Chase Gillmor
More child care. Better eduction. More paid leave - Tina Chase Gillmor
The problem is boys..... http://www.npr.org/blogs... ..... they kill women's confidence. - Roger Shepherd
Yep, Roger. - Darius Dunlap
Most companies hire the token 'Asian, Latin, African, Woman' to feel as if they are part of the modern world. - Moe Glitz
Brad Fitzpatrick - Kevin Marks
Although, I'll point out that women to it to one another, too. - Darius Dunlap
Im happy to hear the guys tackle theses issue. Sometime on G3 it feels like we're saying the same thing over and over but often preaching to the choir - Tina Chase Gillmor
women were and are bloggers - Blogher showed that - Kevin Marks
not a deeper problem - Tina Chase Gillmor
similar problem - Kevin Marks
yes Kevin - Tina Chase Gillmor
same problem ... intersectionality - Frank Paynter
Yep. Too few. I know several, but embarrassed to say it's ONLY several. - Darius Dunlap
Very interesting article on Palo Alto: http://techcrunch.com/2015... - Alex de Soto
that was good, Alex - Kevin Marks
"...and if they don't do that, what's the point?" — indeed! - Darius Dunlap
twitter 2006 - Frank Paynter
Thank you, Darius - John Taschek
name the show, folks!! - Tina Chase Gillmor
Guys and Gals - Keith Teare
Boys, not Men. - Darius Dunlap
more... - Tina Chase Gillmor
this article was telling http://t.co/zFMR5HyKOe - Kevin Marks
Tools for tools - Frank Paynter
notifiations is power? - Tina Chase Gillmor
to deliver their own boise? - Tina Chase Gillmor
Tina -- How about "Turn your Mic on, Tina" - John Taschek
Taschek++ - Darius Dunlap
I have no mic, John. ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor
"media is complicit w/tech sexism by reducing all work by women to being 'about sexism' instead of all the things we do & make." https://twitter.com/katelos... - Kevin Marks
About Standpoint Theory which relates to the article Kevin just shared above (before Kate's tweet... http://www.wikiwand.com/en... - Frank Paynter
I went into dinner prep mode, which is listen only, but wanted to give a big +10 to this gender conversation - Tom Guarriello
Can a woman bring a baby to a VC meeting without being labeled and judged by it? no way - Tina Chase Gillmor
XML - shudder - Kevin Marks
Kevin Marks++ - Darius Dunlap
nice Tom. I agree - Tina Chase Gillmor
need more men talking about it - Tina Chase Gillmor
Gotta run guys - it's 9:20am here in Melb, thanks for a fun Sat morning (Fri afternoon). Catch you all soon, Mont - Monty Hamilton
bye Monty - Tina Chase Gillmor
I recall Adam said he would choose Json over XML if he did it all over again - Michael Roberts
more show titles? - Tina Chase Gillmor
XML was an attempted formalization of HTML - Kevin Marks
Notifications use json - Robin Jewsbury
it failed, HTML keeps going - Kevin Marks
Mmm, surely that was XHTML? - Simon Benvenutto
JSON? - clive boulton
HTML predated XML - Kevin Marks
it was based on SGML - Kevin Marks
++Simon - Frank Paynter
We used XML in 1998, worked with Tim Bray - for us it was the opportunity to connect data without having to centralize - beginnings of the open data movement - Michael Roberts
How about the death of TUAW? - Frank Paynter
Have a good weekend! Seattle or New England? - Alex de Soto
no sportsball predictions? - Laura Norvig
jinx Alex! - Laura Norvig
He's a real Notification Man - Moe Glitz
Notifications central because they are micro interface messages (not verbose XML) - clive boulton
Apps are very much me going into the toolbox to find the tool for the job at a given point in time. Notifications have the opportunity to bring that tool to me, when its relevant, depending on whats happening in the world around me. Its contextual. - Simon Benvenutto
How many can they make in the first six months? And how many have they got in inventory? - Frank Paynter
twitter are fairly bulky - Kevin Marks
We need a GG Apple Watch sales pool! - Tom Guarriello
+1 kevin. - clive boulton
1.2 million Apple Watches the first weekend. - Alex de Soto
the amazing thing about the watch is the number of $1000 versions sold - Robin Jewsbury
XML was a big innovation at the time - what's seems to win out is simple - rss was simple - twitter is powerful but simple to use - notifications to me connect things together and are simple - so yes I think they will do well and there is still lots of innovation to be had - Michael Roberts
2 million for weekend. 18 million of the first quarter. - Darius Dunlap
i have to drop at 2:35 - Keith Teare
With a high ASP - $500+ - Darius Dunlap
Scoble: 20, Keith:15, Taschek:?, Kevin :20 - Tina Chase Gillmor
AI may wrap around notifications to build interfaces for enterprise (peel the onion) - clive boulton
I had said 50 million in a previous Gillmor Gang -- but there was no timeframe - John Taschek
cat does NOT understand that she can't get out of the studio til the show is over - Tina Chase Gillmor
I think it's going to be 12. 15 doesn't sound right. Apple believes in even numbers - John Taschek
xml vs json is like sql vs nosql - Daniel W. Crompton
the difference between markup and interop :) - Simon Benvenutto
old vs new - Robin Jewsbury
original purpose of XML was to separate data from formatting and repurpose the data in cool ways. A librarian's dream but just wasn't used right, IMO - Laura Norvig
why are we starting a fight at the END of the show. Save it for the beginning of the NEXt show - Tina Chase Gillmor
SOAP killed everything - Robin Jewsbury
+1 Laura - Michael Roberts
ha ha, you should edit into next weeks intro Tina. - Simon Benvenutto
Let's have a fight about something interesting - not XML v. HTML - Roger Shepherd
without xml there would be no rss - Frank Paynter
Apple Watch: 25 million the first month; 40 million the first quarter. - Alex de Soto
I'm happy to do this next time and explain the indieweb approach - Kevin Marks
twitter didn't need RSS - Kevin Marks
Tina++ - Darius Dunlap
For the Hoodie - Darius Dunlap
html worked because it was simple - it started really simple then got more complex over time - xml - tried to separate the presentation from the content - Michael Roberts
Thanks everybody! - Daniel W. Crompton
It takes two to have a fight..... - Roger Shepherd
Someone's wrong on the Gillmor Gang - Darius Dunlap
<p>Thanks for the show Gang!</p> - Simon Benvenutto
You guys are having an inside out vs outside in perspective argument - Jeff
Great show - Roger Shepherd
Yes, Great Show - Darius Dunlap
Kevin is still fighting. ;-) - Darius Dunlap
Have great weekends! - John Taschek
And you as well enjoyable show - Jeff
Great show. Have a great weekend. - Jaoued Ahmed
why not json- thanks Kevin - clive boulton
and - http://fortune.com/2013... - What has been your biggest failure? Funnily enough, I’m going to say XML. Yes, it is a standard, but the vision of a simple easy text format for sharing data between applications across the web which is what I had in mind was corrupted by a disastrously over-complex schema language and by a failure to get it natively understood by JavaScript. In retrospect, I should have backed JSON from the start and just gotten dates added. - Michael Roberts
great show, thanks everyone! was the most extreme sort of (live) lurker today, burning up my data plan watching on a train on my "tiny" 5S so couldn't be here in #FF as didn't have the foresight to bring another of my iDevices - Jerome Hughes
Great reference, Michael! XML can be used in non-web applications. It's not dead, just pining ... - Laura Norvig
(get it? remember Pine email ... oh, never mind) - Laura Norvig
I wrote one of my final papers for my MLIS about XML in the year 2000. I never really learned it all that well, just wrote about the conceptual promise and possible applications! - Laura Norvig
@Jerome -- yes GG requires 2 devices. Maybe Steve's new GG app can combine view and interaction (attention collections that span mobile to desktop so needed) - clive boulton
Laura: Yes Pine email - the good ol days when email was simple, and mostly spam free. Indeed XML is not dead - I helped to create a standard that uses it and its very much still in use. - Michael Roberts
Here is the feed for the audio version we talked about http://feeds.feedburner.com/Gillmor... - Manuel Diaz