Gillmor Gang Live Friday 03.20.15 LIVE rec

Steve Gillmor

Gillmor Gang Live Friday 03.20.15 LIVE recording at 1:00pmPT/4:00pmET http://ustream.tv/GillmorGang

Mar 20, 2015

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Did you mean 03.20.15?? - Tom Guarriello

Did you mean 1:30pm?? - charles carrico

Meant today 03.20.15 at 1pmPT / 4pmET - Steve Gillmor

Who is on the call today? - Simon Tennant

kevin? you here? - Tina Chase Gillmor

hello folks - Tina Chase Gillmor

Hi Tina - Tom Guarriello

BTW, pronunciation guide: GWA-RE-YELLOW ;) - Tom Guarriello

Only real pro's do 2 takes - Keith Teare

Does anyone have issues with the Apple TV mirroring thing? - Nir Ben Yona

Spotty, Nir - Tom Guarriello

Hi TOm G! - Tina Chase Gillmor

Which is what most people, including my students, call me, Tina!! - Tom Guarriello

Tom, yeah that's what I'm getting right now. - Nir Ben Yona

maybe I'll do a quick Meekcast during the show...but not sure I have enough hands - Tina Chase Gillmor

Beatles reference.Drink up - Tina Chase Gillmor

Tom. What students? - Tina Chase Gillmor

Masters in Branding students at NYC's School of Visual Arts http://branding.sva.edu - Tom Guarriello

Tom - ahhh. - Tina Chase Gillmor

Interesting...Apple is going to the more intimate level...so Apple leaders are being more 'sharing' intimate. The Isaacson book was good...but those that knew him well want people to know that his life had an 'arc' He had a lot of faults...it was a struggle to master them...but, there was growth - Therese Sullivan

I'm getting flashbacks http://www.apple.com/pr... - Kevin Marks

cute calico - Tina Chase Gillmor

cat knows how to find the mic - Tina Chase Gillmor

That's a pretty big difference from 15 years ago. Timing is everything - Tom Guarriello

I'm late! but i made it! - Matthew Voshell

@Kevin... that cat DOES NOT CARE that you are on live tv - Matthew Voshell

Alex Lindsay Meerkats from Rwanda are very cool - Tom Guarriello

shouldnt there be some sort of barrier to broadcasting though? I mean isnt this why the kardashians are on tv? does everyone live's need to be broadcast? are we all that important? - Matthew Voshell

How about Twitter's Periscope? - christina sponselli

Meerkat is this months Rooms. Whatever happened to that? - Moe Glitz

You can now follow via web or use their leader board. - Nir Ben Yona

MyCat is next moths Meerkat - Kevin Marks

@Kevin what is the cats name? - Matthew Voshell

2 weeks?! answers! - Matthew Voshell

I may be Meekcasting now. not sure. find me and follow to see - Tina Chase Gillmor

That's because we're all bozos on this bus! - Tom Guarriello

Bored by Meerkat. Unless somewhere is amazing it is a waste of attention - Francine Hardaway

Cisco telepresence? - Francine Hardaway

That's why Alex's Rwanda Meerkats are so fascinating, Francine. - Tom Guarriello

The cat's name is Callie - Kevin Marks

Yes. But most people aren't in Rwanda - Francine Hardaway

http://www.wpine.com - Keith Teare

+1 Francine - Tom Guarriello

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Keith Teare

Kavin - WE used to have a calico named Callie as well - Tina Chase Gillmor

Very true Francine. Could work for Sports or Showbiz Entertainers whom want to engage with their fans before a big event - Moe Glitz

We used to have Qik and that died. - Francine Hardaway

People get bored watching people like me walk our dogs. - Francine Hardaway

I think Meerkat will be important for protests, etc. - Tom Guarriello

Ha ha... - J.C. Bouvier

Hi All - Laura Norvig

The Podfather! - J.C. Bouvier

Right, Tom - Francine Hardaway

he brought edting people out of the history of it - Kevin Marks

Drugs? - Tom Guarriello

Qik died quickly. Still waiting for Medium to go large - Moe Glitz

He still is. I support NoAgendaShow. - Francine Hardaway

Qik got bought by Skype and killed - Kevin Marks

16z podcasts are ace - Moe Glitz

He has Tourette's and that's part of his potty mouth. He explained it on NoAgenda - Francine Hardaway

+1 Moe. - J.C. Bouvier

Adam Curry and drug use did affect his memory - Kevin Marks

He doesn't use any drugs now - Francine Hardaway

Of course he's 50:-) - Francine Hardaway

You'll all be sad to know, no coupons for bday Apple Watches at the Apple Store. :( - J.C. Bouvier

No doubt about it, Steve. Adam was a huge factor in podcasting. So were you and Doc. - Tom Guarriello

Adam is 50plus - Tina Chase Gillmor

here http://epeus.blogspot.com/2005... - Kevin Marks

Why is that some live video platforms have success and others immediately devolve into porn? Remember Yahoo Live, and I'm having a brain fart about the other one - the completely anonymous one. - Laura Norvig

Support the NoAgenda Show. It's funny and smart. Donations supports the show - Francine Hardaway

Seesmic? - Francine Hardaway

seesmic was more snapchat but before phones worked - Kevin Marks

chatroulette? - Kevin Marks

Yes, Francine. Seesmic was also in the mix - Tom Guarriello

Yes, Kevin! What a disaster. - Laura Norvig

If most folks didn't have a Yahoo Mail account, Yahoo would be a ghost town - Moe Glitz

The level of anonymity plays into it - Laura Norvig

Kevin, you rock. You used the world confabulate! - Francine Hardaway

Autonomous - Francine Hardaway

Tesla looks good on paper. But sadly we drive on the road - Moe Glitz

That would be amazing, ref see i, robot.. cars talk to each other through networking and sonar and are able to travel at super high speeds - Matthew Voshell

Ha ha. - J.C. Bouvier

Still buying one. - J.C. Bouvier

Dan doesn't love the Apple watch - Francine Hardaway

Like that scene from Silicon Valley - Moe Glitz

Video of Tesla car reading speed limit and avoiding obstacle https://www.youtube.com/watch... - Matthew Voshell

https://twitter.com/kevinma... - Kevin Marks

awww, Cat's in the Cradle. Your daughters want face time with you. And not the Apple kind. - Laura Norvig

Is anyone going to purchase seriously get one? - Matthew Voshell

Like the iPhone upgrades. The Apple Watch 4 will be the one. - Moe Glitz

Order it online. - Francine Hardaway

I backed the Pebble again. - Francine Hardaway

http://elekslabs.com/2015... Apple Watch vs. Android Wear. Time to Drive Tesla Further - Da

Someone invent the "leave me alone" watch for Dan. Invisible. Weightless. Quiet. - Laura Norvig

mullti-casting. is it additive or redundant? - Tina Chase Gillmor

@Kevin.. what model android wear is that? - Matthew Voshell

Tina, seems like another avenue for fragmented conversation. - Laura Norvig

Hyperloop by 2018?? http://mashable.com/2015... - Matthew Voshell

I think we need a crossover GG/G3 show - Tina Chase Gillmor

it's the LG - Kevin Marks

why is education a handout? - Tina Chase Gillmor

How is Apple going to promote the iPhone 6 Plus S. It will look great in your pocket, whilst it communicates with the Apple Watch. - Moe Glitz

That's an understatement, Keith. Totally agree. Elitist crap. - Laura Norvig

"Not practicing overt racism/sexism isn't enough. We need to practice overt inclusion." http://recode.net/2015... - christina sponselli

The affirmative action debate is still alive and well... - Tom Guarriello

The rumored apple tv serivce and new hardware; I really just hope they redesign the OS of it; http://www.pcmag.com/article... - Matthew Voshell

They kept her six effing years!!!!! - Francine Hardaway

+1 Kevin Marks. - Rob Underwood

Here we go Francine! ellenpao. I think since this: The Fuzzy, Insane Math That's Creating So Many Billion-Dollar Tech Companies - Bloomberg http://buff.ly/19AQjSe - Therese Sullivan

Mates. That's it. - Francine Hardaway

The VC industry is now on trial. Kudos to Bloomberg journo's 4linking 2stories by quoting Randy Komisar in each on the same day. Cuz thR linked! Ponzi only supports a few men atop. - Therese Sullivan

Francine - the boys are in our territory but good they're talking about it too - Tina Chase Gillmor

well put, Kevin. - Laura Norvig

Google has some kind of executive titled position about "unconscious biases" which is very, very smart - Tom Guarriello

+1 again Kevin Marks. Too often meritocracy is an illusion. It's easy to think that capital goes to the best objective ideas, but it's not really that easy or simply - Rob Underwood

Its the 'Put the kettle on love' mentality. - Moe Glitz

Meritocracy in SV is bullshit. - Francine Hardaway

Meerket at SXSW http://dcinno.streetwise.co/2015... - Matthew Voshell

This trial is big. It exposes the crony culture. - Francine Hardaway

+1 Francine - Rob Underwood

Tom, you mean Judith Williams, the one who called out Schmidt for talking over Megan Smith http://www.slate.com/blogs... - Laura Norvig

Yes, Laura. That's her - Tom Guarriello

It's bigger. Anyone not like me is suspicious - Francine Hardaway

Trae Vasselo presents a list of all the $$$$ her deals brought into KPBC -- and it didn't matter. Because those amounts - like $3.2B for Nest-- are fixed by big boys in back rooms. Those amounts didn't reflect on her due to 'Fuzzy Math' So no big deal to let her go...thought leadership? Ha ha ha. - Therese Sullivan

Lip service - Francine Hardaway

Keith, amen brother!!! - Francine Hardaway

I am loving this conversation. Addressing the topic through opportunities and seminars is fine but is also kind of like greenwashing. - Laura Norvig

and what opportunities are you losing out on because you don't have women on your board or in your department/ company - Tina Chase Gillmor

or on your podcast - Kevin Marks

+1 Tina. (Mary Hodder would cheer.) - Therese Sullivan

oooh - Tina Chase Gillmor

Pretty soon we will get the first Rev Al Sharpton for Tech. - Moe Glitz

At Deloitte we had (well connected, affluent) parents of recent MBA graduates call senior managers and partners to appeal the performance reviews of their children (28, 29 year olds) - "you're ruining their life by saying they only 'meet expectations,'". Meritocracy is on life-support at best -- the people most resistant to actual meritocracy are those who are white, affluent, and powerful because it challenges their privilege. - Rob Underwood

cf Daniel Kahneman. An unconscious bias is one you don't know you have - Francine Hardaway

Keith, I suggest you read Kahneman's book, Thinking Fast and Slow, not to prove you have AN unconscious bias but to show you can't avoid them - Tom Guarriello

The House of Gillmor - Moe Glitz

Lol, Francine - Tom Guarriello

Yes Rob - Francine Hardaway

+1 Tom. We can only deal with our conscious biases obviously. That's enough work as it is. - Laura Norvig

I hope they get to 'Fuzzy Math' article because that is in their 'comfort zone.' - Therese Sullivan

Dan Farber cracks me up :) - Simon Benvenutto

Dan's on a roll today. - Laura Norvig

whats the fuzzy math article? - Kevin Marks

Excellent, honest discussion of these matters - Tom Guarriello

Bloomberg http://buff.ly/19AQjSe - Therese Sullivan

Neither does Kleiner Perkins - Francine Hardaway

you mean the petrie principle? - Kevin Marks

Note Randy Komisar is quoted in both. - Therese Sullivan

Self-serving a bit as it's something I care a lot about -- the way we start to fix this is making sure ALL kids get access to a high quality education including access to computational thinking and computer science. - Rob Underwood

The VC industry is now on trial. Kudos to Bloomberg journo's 4linking 2stories by quoting Randy Komisar in each on the same day. Cuz thR linked! Ponzi only supports a few men atop. - You (edit | delete) - Therese Sullivan

That's why I'm glad Ellen sued. I don't know if she should have been fired or not, but these questions should come up. - Francine Hardaway

I'm saying meritocracy in SV is bullshit. - Francine Hardaway

The Petrie Multiplier: http://iangent.blogspot.com/2013... - Kevin Marks

I agree francine - Kevin Marks

There are plenty of people in SV who have merit and aren't recognized. - Francine Hardaway

Software developers, engineers, technologists, need to be making the time to volunteer in schools to teach coding and hour or two a week. It feels good and you can make a huge difference. Programs like TEALS, etc. - Rob Underwood

Yep. Trae Vassello had the better case. But, she didn't want to do it because 'boy - it's brutal'. But, they've put the VC industry on trial. It's price fixing. - Therese Sullivan

see https://twitter.com/MJB_SF... - Kevin Marks

The best thing is that, individually, we are all conscious of our unconscious bias and, in spite of them, try and not make decisions based on bullshit reasons. - Simon Benvenutto

Comments are going away from Friendfeed, so then what? - Francine Hardaway

and https://twitter.com/MJB_SF... - Kevin Marks

irc? - Kevin Marks

IRC just sounds soon retro :) - Simon Benvenutto

Tell them to sign up for Friendfeed. For 2 weeks - Moe Glitz

I've had that power for over a decade - Kevin Marks

Rob, check out a new program called Digital Nest. I am a big fan of the founder: http://digitalnest.org/ - Laura Norvig

Cool, Laura. That's great! Here's something I'm doing to raise a bunch of money for programs that teach coding in schools in NYC -- http://avc.com/2015... - Rob Underwood

The Royal Wave - Moe Glitz

should we integrate Meerkat regularly? If so how? - Tina Chase Gillmor

I find I always go back and delete my Meerkat comments from my Twitter feed - Rob Underwood

Andy Warhol would love all this tech, if he were around today - Moe Glitz

We need something, Tina. - Tom Guarriello

yeah, that would not work. (pushed twitter comments) - Laura Norvig

I agree with you Steve -- the comments become out of context. - Rob Underwood

MOe - most definitely Andy would - Tina Chase Gillmor

He's being famous for 15 minutes quote. Seems a huge understatement - Moe Glitz

I would like to watch the Meekat chat on my desktop while Im casting. I can't do both - Tina Chase Gillmor

Hangouts on Air drives me crazy because of identity issues, difficult to broadcast as a specific youtube channel identity instead of personal identity. - Laura Norvig

How about a WhatsApp Gillmor Gang Chatroom - Moe Glitz

it's called XFN - Kevin Marks

also had it for a decade - Kevin Marks

did you read Andy Baio's post on this? https://www.kickstarter.com/project... - Kevin Marks

When you trust someone else' silo, you lose. - Simon Tennant

when you *only* trust someone else's silo - Kevin Marks

Hi Tom G. on Meercast. I see your comments on the Meerkat stream but can't respond there. too many things to do - Tina Chase Gillmor

Hi here, Tina - Tom Guarriello

Very surprised that most youngsters get their news on Pinterest, rather than Twitter. - Moe Glitz

Kevin: just wrote about this problem - the next value in messaging will be in silo interconnects (blog.buddycloud.com/post/114030008752/the-four-phases-of-messaging-evolution) - Simon Tennant

News on Pinterest? - Tina Chase Gillmor

Kevin: with good silo interconnect you also get network effects at a much bigger scale. - Simon Tennant

Exactly Tina - Moe Glitz

cat bashing - Tina Chase Gillmor

yes simon - Kevin Marks

Nasty cat! - Tom Guarriello

Kevin: but as you say it's easier to build a silo than interconnected system. So the real way to win this battle is to give developers easy to use tool that help them add *open*, *federated* comms to their apps. - Simon Tennant

you're speaking my indieweb language - Kevin Marks

Had this data ownership conversation with Sean Bohan of Firefox/Mozills at lunch the other day. - Tom Guarriello

Uber is valued the same as Salesforce. How? - Moe Glitz

Germany blacklisted Uber - Moe Glitz

both provide cloud infrastructure to businesses? - Kevin Marks

*verklempt* - Laura Norvig

Steve is right: see http://indiewebcamp.com/site-de... - Kevin Marks

+1 Steve - Therese Sullivan

site deaths are bad - Kevin Marks

there is an archive script individuals can use to download. but uggh, yeah site deaths suck - Laura Norvig

o_O Yo? - Kevin Marks

App is so retro - Kevin Marks