Gillmor Gang, Live Recording Session at 1:

Gillmor Gang recording session with Danny Sullivan, Andrew Keen, Kevin Marks & Scoble: http://building43.com/realtime - Cliff Gerrish

as if right-leaning commentators don't have enough platforms already. :( - Karoli

Well, Andrew's not really right-leaning. More of a wobble. - Ken Sheppardson

Why does Andrew live in Alabama? - Stephen Pickering

I like Merlin Mann's comment - "The people who love the iPad they haven't used yet actually have a lot in common with the people who hate the iPad they haven't used yet." - Ken Sheppardson

iPad is not a laptop, looking forward to consuming media and in particular Wired Mag. - michael sean wright

I want an iPad just because the incredible speed. That's a very under rated quality in computers. People want things that just turn on like TVs - Stephen Pickering

lol...Steve had a mellow pill today. - Karoli

Steve Jobs, Eric Schmidt and an iPad in Palo Alto: http://gizmodo.com/5503004 - Kevin Marks

Newspapers like the New York Times, and even the SF Chronicle already have incorporated video. - Cliff Gerrish

Kevin: You think there's any chance that wasn't a staged PR move? I can't imagine it wasn't. [i.e. Jobs/Schmidt] - Ken Sheppardson

it's the difference between flat and engage-able right? - michael sean wright

Ah, there's the problem w/ Newspapers - they're a break from the computer. There are no breaks anymore. - Cliff Gerrish

Maybe weʻve been waiting for this medium for a few centuries, and only now will have a good medium to read. - Arnie Klaus

Iʻve feel good reading from my clay tablet. - Arnie Klaus

I quit taking the paper because it was paper. I read all news online. All. - Karoli

it IS about new markets as well. When was the last time a 20 something got excited about print? - michael sean wright

If everybody goes to online media, how in the world will my mom send me clippings from the local paper when people I didn't know in school get married? - Ken Sheppardson

paper newspapers are always out of date these days - Hilary Talbot

Ken, she can print them out. - Cliff Gerrish

I saw some excited people saying 'we destroyed your business, now we want your machines' to newspapers at SXSW - Kevin Marks

The iPad solves the problem that newspapers never have any news that happened today. - Cliff Gerrish

WSJ is a different animal, its a business write off expense, its like the Daily Racing Form, it pays for itself for its audience - Stephen Pickering

I am paying for WSJ, too. I use it exactly as Steve does. - Francine Hardaway

more so than computers, cliff? - Hilary Talbot

You mean paper isn't redundant? - Karoli

Who still uses paper? We got rid of it in the '80s, didn't we? - Ken Sheppardson

Donʻt we generally pay for good writing when we want it? - Arnie Klaus

I can't even read print books anymore. I use Audible. BTW, hi everybody:) - Francine Hardaway

I read the NYT and Wash Post on my iPhone every morning. Would love to read them on a larger screen. Not sure if I would pay though. No more paper. Just newspixels. - Alex de Soto

I won't pay for the WSJ. Period. just clicked a link to them and shut it down. I'll pay for content, but not when Murdoch owns it. - Karoli

Do newspixels kill trees? - Francine Hardaway

I love print books. I read both. They both work great. - Cliff Gerrish

books are different. there are some I'll buy in print. but I do love 'em in electronic format. - Karoli

No, this is about building a compelling context/ experience within a new form. Those that just repackage content lose. This is about immersive opportunity. Mix the mediums to create something exciting. - michael sean wright

OMG! If I couldn't use my existing log in I'd be pissed! - Francine Hardaway

Sean, right, Markets aren't served, Markets are created - Stephen Pickering

This may be like buying CDs to replace your vinyl. Ipad to replace your paper. - Cliff Gerrish

Curious to see strips and cartoons like on GoComics on the iPad. A good comic strip experience is what I miss from online newspapers. - Alex de Soto

Damn, that is exactly Supply Side thinking on Steve's part. That is exactly "Say's Law" Supply Creates Demand - Stephen Pickering

uh oh :( - Karoli

aaa.. steve was on a roll - Christopher Harris

Yeah, video dropped - Ken Sheppardson

Murdoch pulled the plug - Alex de Soto

Good old real time. - Francine Hardaway

We'll be up shortly. - Cliff Gerrish

Alex, he probably did. - Karoli

On a roll with the Supply Side argument - Stephen Pickering

Alex, that's hilare - Francine Hardaway

what just happened. - beersage

I want an iPad for consuming the Gillmor Gang - Francine Hardaway

We're back - Cliff Gerrish

China!! - Arnie Klaus

I'd love an iPad to draw on, among other things. - Hilary Talbot

Everyone is going to buy one, just as they did the ipod because its a transcendent object of beauty and functionality that no one can match, once that happens you only need a few percent to actually subscribe to things to make it work - Stephen Pickering

Supply side relates mostly to commodities...I believe Steve is discussing Innovation...a better way to consume news. Probably if the iPhone is an example of a better way to consume messages of all type. - Paul Sherer

Supply Side relates to Says Law of Supply Creating Demand, not Demand Creating Supply, which is most apt in discrecionary industries, not commodities - Stephen Pickering

Well, I may just use it for other things. That I donn't have to subscribe to - Francine Hardaway

hilary, drawing is something I hope it handles nicely, because I'm also looking forward to that. - Karoli

thing is for me http://twittertim.es/kevinma... or http://aldaily.com beats a single site - Kevin Marks

Oh yeah, didn't yall see that Brushes app. That alone will kill it for artists and even non artists - Stephen Pickering

Seems like people have found lots of things to do with the iPhone. Same will be true of the iPad. - Cliff Gerrish

Karoli, I guessed you would too. How it would handle compared to a wacom tablet I don't know, but the whole touch to draw thing is wonderful - Hilary Talbot

Look at all the stuff around the office, home and school it displaces. Look at how we gang consumers are cloud based early adapters. - Arnie Klaus

and the size would be easier than the iPhone - Hilary Talbot

Cliff take that and multiply it by the factor of how much larger the screen is, and that's how big this thing is going to be - Stephen Pickering

are we done for the day? - Francine Hardaway

where's tina? - Francine Hardaway

No, stream keeps going up and down. Conversation still going on. We're working on getting it fixed. - Cliff Gerrish

This thing will be so wildly successful people won't believe it - Stephen Pickering

It should be easier for 2 people to play chess and board games on this thing. So it will be family-friendly: Perfect for starting fights about who's hogging it. - Alex de Soto

Whose winning!! - Arnie Klaus

I agree Stephen - Hilary Talbot

Thanks Hilary :-) - Stephen Pickering

The Gang should take a vacation until the 3rd - Stephen Pickering

Oh I just realized thats next week - Stephen Pickering

OK, we join our conversation in progress... - Cliff Gerrish

Need to change the banner at Building 43 to say Gillmor Gang Friday not Thursday. - Arnie Klaus

It must be Thursday somewhere... - Cliff Gerrish

It just hit me that this will work because there are so many mags I have been planning on subscribing to but haven't simply bc I'm too lazy to fill out the little card and send it in, with the iPad, I'll simply click - Stephen Pickering

Yes - a new banner is on my list, and in the works. But SXSW stole my last month! - Rob La Gesse

People will pay for information that makes them money. Most newspapers don't do that. - Cliff Gerrish

Cliff, right - Stephen Pickering

What about micro-payments for articles. One cent at a time or so. Just like PPV on cable. - Alex de Soto

They are over handicapping, over analyzing this thing. For magazines its simply going to work. News papers probably not - Stephen Pickering

How big does something have to be before it's "mass media"? - Ken Sheppardson

That would be Andrew:-) - Francine Hardaway

It's about depth. Journalism has a grand opportunity here. RE-thinking the model of publishing. - michael sean wright

Hi end niche publishing is good. I will pay for some great content. By micropayments if my social graph tells me it's worth reading - Francine Hardaway

So which is the Ludington Daily News? My hometown paper. It was always schleppy and mass produced. Or is it a high end niche product, with an audience of 15K? - Ken Sheppardson

A trade magazine like Cinefex on the iPad would be awesome. - Alex de Soto

Alex. You already said the thing about micropayments - Francine Hardaway

I cancelled the NYer because it overwhelmed me. Now I get the feed and choose my story to read for the week. - Francine Hardaway

hi all - Amyloo

I think Obama is introducing a new public "News-Care" reform next week. Don't worry, folks - the government will provide you all the news you REALLY need - and for "free". - Rob La Gesse

hey Amy! - Hilary Talbot

Hi Amyloo - Francine Hardaway

My hometown paper http://www.ludingtondailynews.com I suppose they could just send iPads out to all the farms, install cell towers, and turn it into an iPad Store App. - Ken Sheppardson

Bad boy, kr8tr - Francine Hardaway

You are making an interesting point Ken - Francine Hardaway

La Gesse - what kind of cough syrup are you drinking? - michael sean wright

@Francine - always ;) - Rob La Gesse

looking forward to reading long form on ipad. will be more comfortable in every way - Amyloo

@MSW - it's government issued cough syrup - so who knows what is in it? :) - Rob La Gesse

You know my hometown paper, which is total crap the Arkansas Democrat, actually has been charging people from the beginning for web access, and they've actually been one of the few success stories - Stephen Pickering

sigh... - Karoli

easier to see than iphone, more curlupwithableness than monitor or laptop - Amyloo

I'm about to subscribe to historical papers. The archives are meaningful to me. Very meaningful. - Karoli

sex sells. What's new? - Francine Hardaway

Agree with Robert's assessment almost 100%. - Alex de Soto

I agree, Amy. And drawing at better scale - Hilary Talbot

"curlupwithableness" - classic - thanks, Amyloo. Now on my list for my next anything. - Rob La Gesse

RIP Jim Marshall. He cared about capturing the feeling of the moment. That emotional connection is always evergreen. We can learn a lot from 'reporting' like Jim. - michael sean wright

My reality is reading/watching news, magazine and video from all sources -- on-line and TV. A single device to carry for all seems to make the idea of how we did without for so long seem the more appropriate orientation !!! - Paul Sherer

Why is somebody in California subscribing to the New York Times? For national news and editorial. That can move to the web and devices just fine. But can real, local, neighborhood news that people actually need move to a device? If it does, it's going to disenfranchise a whole segment of the population that can't pay $500 for it. Local newsletters/newspapers need to survive in some form. - Ken Sheppardson

We cannot forecast the patterns that people will search for in the future that may not have relevance to us because we have not perceived the pattern or its value. - Arnie Klaus

@nicefish I went back and saw all those pics yesterday - Francine Hardaway

I think at first families might buy an iPad as a collective resource, like families used to have one TV. - Hilary Talbot

Hillary's on to something. - Alex de Soto

I'm not the biggest fan of NYtimes, but I will admit it is the paper of record for the World - Stephen Pickering

Reminds of Jeff Jonas - the query waits for the answer to appear in the index. - Cliff Gerrish

Buying one for Buppy. He's really at a loss right now - Francine Hardaway

Are we going to see the "gentrification" of news? [Totally abusing/misusing the term.] - Ken Sheppardson

"The Day the Music Died" - Stephen Pickering

I am going to need better broadband/wifi before I can consume video on an iPad or anything else - Francine Hardaway

The local stuff will be fabulous -- subsidized by the leading users bringing down all prices in the value chain -- device, bandwidth, content. Reverse gentrification hopefully. - Paul Sherer

That's it! The iPad as boomer wayback machine. - Alex de Soto

(bias here) Journalists have a better platform for being Documentarians with the iPad than flat print. - michael sean wright

I'm hoping netflix gets their silverlight to iPhone/iPod thing together. Watch instantly is terrific. Already paying for it. - Cliff Gerrish

Oh yeah, Michael, its like a Golden Age for Documentarians, and its only the beginning - Stephen Pickering

Paul: Seems like there's going to be a gap of sorts... I suspect the business models will change faster than the device economies of scale and subsidization can keep up with. Papers will die before replacement channels are in place. - Ken Sheppardson

But McLuhan was right - Stephen Pickering

Lady Gaga is bound to outsell the NYT and WSJ on the iPad - Kevin Marks

Ken: Maybe not, given it will take 5-10 years at best for meaningful penetration of local markets of iPad - Paul Sherer

Or maybe not. I don't really know what sort of economic condition the Ludington Daily News is in these days. I suspect advertising is down because the economy has tanked. I don't image many people in Ludington/Scottville/Custer/Freesoil or on the intervening farms are going to buy iPads. - Ken Sheppardson

That means you're a fan, Kevin? - Francine Hardaway

I read that Lady Gaga has 1 billion online video views. That's big stuff. - Cliff Gerrish

ken, didn't know you were from michigan. igrew up inMt. Pleasant - Amyloo

All the conversation I hear around newspapers dying comes from urban media markets. I can't recall hearing much if any commentary or reporting on the state of rural, hometown papersl (Cool, Amyloo) - Ken Sheppardson

Totally, Danny. - Francine Hardaway

the iPad apple's first appliance, it is not a device, it is about content and the mergence of media - J. Matthew Riva

It is a magic device! - Stephen Pickering

this when the old world media brands will emmerge as powerhouses wwith this mergence - J. Matthew Riva

This is what I like about the Kindle model. One payment and I can view the book on multiple platforms. - Alex de Soto

Right Danny. Journalism won't die. - Francine Hardaway

i think you guys are missing the point, sorry - J. Matthew Riva

Only thing I disagree with Danny is that the experience could be so compelling that people do subscribe more, and also, we always find the money somehow for things we want and need - Stephen Pickering

it is about the net book agreement - J. Matthew Riva

Ludington News seems well on its way with rich links, video, e-sponsors...On the iPad they could offer candidate debates, local event coverage, etc that could offer new revenue models to invigorate its core local news model. - Paul Sherer

good show. jumping off to go visit the Alan Grayson chat on Crooks & Liars. Bye all. - Karoli

and how apple has given power back to publishers and artists - J. Matthew Riva

Bye Karoli. - Cliff Gerrish

the real innovation is not the device it is the store - J. Matthew Riva

Dormant, my ass. Steve - Francine Hardaway

and the compression that allows high quality content to stream to the iPad - J. Matthew Riva

The real innovation is that the input and output of the iPad is the same screen. - Cliff Gerrish

I don't know, the device is pretty sublime, the way they talk about the Speed alone makes me want it, much less the beauty, aesthetics - Stephen Pickering

No, email empowered people to be mandated to write poorly. But blogging empowered writers. - Francine Hardaway

hence mergence of media and now BRAND re-emerging - J. Matthew Riva

Culture died a long time ago - Stephen Pickering

cloning will democratize it - Amyloo

We are trying to define the Ipad in the language of our old tool set. Modern humans moved out of into the world from North Africa with a new tool set. - Arnie Klaus

Yes, Amyloo. Almost like ebook readers - Francine Hardaway

Oh, you guys thinking with the little head :-( - Francine Hardaway

Funny Francine! - Alex de Soto

The small groups won't bubble up but they can make a living - Stephen Pickering

some will bubble up, some won't, but they won't need to genuflect to labels first - Kevin Marks

I had a KLH stereo!!!!!!! - Francine Hardaway

Again: pay once view anywhere. That's fine with me. - Alex de Soto

technology always disrupts culture. - Jim Posner

Kevin, exactly - Stephen Pickering

i'd pay for the gillmor gang - Amyloo

not sure about a form factor disrupting culture. - Jim Posner

Paul: RE Ludington Daily News... yeah, I think they're probably not that far off the path. Seems like there's an opportunity for larger more technically advanced news orgs to help the smaller shops. Work together. Combine the infrastructure and tech expetise of the larger orgs with the local journalists on the ground working for the local folks. - Ken Sheppardson

http://bit.ly/idolfanatic is a tool to vote for idol - Kevin Marks

Google in china: great subject. - Alex de Soto

Which Article about google and china? - Arnie Klaus

I won;t have the 3G - I have WiFi everywhere I go. - Rob La Gesse

Why pay for a data plan for ever device you own? Get a MiFi. Use it with everything. - Ken Sheppardson

I agree, Kevin, my favorite indie artists, I buy their albums multiple times, their T Shirts, even their Albums in Vinyl etc, to suppor them - Stephen Pickering

this one http://searchengineland.com/so-now-... - Kevin Marks

Danny Sullivan wrote a nice piece on Google, China and censorship -- see Kevin's link - Cliff Gerrish

Totally agree. No 3G. - Alex de Soto

One of the carriers needs to catch on and offer a cross-device, umbrella data plan. - Ken Sheppardson

How about the JooJoo Pad? That looks interesting and it is somewhat more open. - Jim Posner

JooJoo is a stolen concept - I won't touch it. - Rob La Gesse

I'll wait for the TechCrunch subsidized, commodity Android/ChromeOS tablet we'll see in Q4 or so. - Ken Sheppardson

Not a fan of Andrew but he's right on this one. The iPad talk is akin to ESPN hammering people over the head w/ Tiger Woods fodder. - beersage

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