GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT

Bing IT On! (can the Trojan Horse purge the Trojan horses) https://twitter.com/satyana... - clive boulton

Okay! - Francine Hardaway

here - Keith Teare

I *really* should be working ... - Laura Norvig

Here:-) - Francine Hardaway

Ok, I'm ready - Ludwig Ederle

I'm waiting for the famous call. - Robert Scoble

Hey Robert, how is Eightly doing? - Ludwig Ederle

Are we live yet? I am not. - John Taschek

Ludwig: I'll be seeing Andy (Eightly's CEO) tonight. Haven't seen much since CES. - Robert Scoble

hellooooooo - Tina Chase Gillmor

Hey Robert. say hi to everyone for me tonight - Francine Hardaway

Francine, you will be missed! - Robert Scoble

I am really curious how it's proceeding. Got my new estimotes on monday - Ludwig Ederle

Howdy! - Nir Ben Yona

I'm still waiting to be able to exchange Glass. Got the first letter, then silence - Francine Hardaway

was there any news at CES concerning eightly? - Ludwig Ederle

Wearables is at the top of the hype cycle. - Francine Hardaway

Francine: Contact the Glass team via direct message on Twitter or call a Glass Guide. - Alex de Soto

Ludwig: No. - Robert Scoble

Can't hear you Steve - Francine Hardaway

Francine: I got my exchange kit last week. - Robert Scoble

I can hear myself - Kevin Marks

Echo Echo - John Taschek

and the bunnyman - John Taschek

So LeWeb was the last public iteration? - Ludwig Ederle

Well if YOU just got it, I guess I have to wait Robert - Francine Hardaway

Image quality is INSANE. - Nir Ben Yona

Live is fine. Steve is a little quiet. - Laura Norvig

It took about a week for Google to ship me the new Glass. I begged them for a UPS tracking number because of the snow storms and they provided me with one. - Alex de Soto

Ludwig: it's the ONLY public iteration (at LeWeb). - Robert Scoble

ok. Can't wait to see more - Ludwig Ederle

Sorry, we are having a little audio trouble, will try again in a few seconds. - Robert Scoble

Say hi to Andy, ok? - Ludwig Ederle

i wasn't getting echo here either - Dale Lature

Oops false start. - clive boulton

"echo" or "reverb" ? - Charles Carrico

We're back! - Robert Scoble

I'm in an unenclosed location - Kevin Marks

taschek is in an overexposed location - Kevin Marks

Sounds great, looks terrific in interwebs land. - clive boulton

john is kind of low - Dale Lature

Looking good in HD - Ian Waring

The Journal says Satya is negotiating his comp now. - clive boulton

I had to get a Nokia Windows phone to test some stuff. Using only WiFi though. - Alex de Soto

Windows Phone is feature phone replacement - Ian Waring

Microsoft fell into Googles trap to try to become a devices company, and then Google left - Ian Waring

Bring back J Allard - Ian Waring

Android dominated with 79% smartphone shipments in 2013, Apple iOS 17.6% and Windows phone only 3.6% - Nir Ben Yona

So there have to be co-CEOs? - Francine Hardaway

Another Tim Cook - Moe Glitz

Virginia M. Rometty from IBM? - Alex de Soto

more like Amelio than Sculley - Kevin Marks

Send in Bob Palmer - Ian Waring

Bill Gates is over. His Moonwalking Days are done - Moe Glitz

Bill Gates isn´t invested that big in Microsoft anyway. It is his baby, but financially he has no big interest in Microsoft. - Johannes Siemers

I can't think of one potential candidate who is a good marketer, internal or outside - Francine Hardaway

CTO - Ian Waring

show link http://techcrunch.com/2014... - Tina Chase Gillmor

saw Lou Gerstner turn that ship in '90s - Jerome Hughes

Only 15% of IBM is hardware these days - less now Series X -> Lenovo - Ian Waring

Bob Parsons? He was a great marketer - Francine Hardaway

Doing patent shakedowns on folks like Twitter now - Ian Waring

Pretty well, but as economics go Public Cloud, then Linux dominates... - Ian Waring

Microsoft's future is another Companies past - Moe Glitz

What about Jeff Weiner from LinkedIn (Farhad Manjoo's suggestion)? - Alex de Soto

Benedict Evans has a nice piece about apps in the future - card paradigm - Ian Waring

Hypercard returns! - Ian Waring

Satya's silent hand has been quietly active for some time. Lead msopen tech. Apparently leading to big dust up with Sinof. http://msopentech.com/nodehac... - clive boulton

if something works and is easy to use I like it, whether it's "software" or whatever. - Laura Norvig

guys are feisty today - Tina Chase Gillmor

hate all the things! - Laura Norvig

Lot of Govt sites still on IE6 - Ian Waring

Robust GG dialog - clive boulton

32! - Ian Waring

Support for Chrome Apps - headless JS/HTML/CSS apps - Ian Waring

Chrome the T-Shirt - Moe Glitz

Chrome is the new Windows 32 - Ian Waring

And Advanced Development Group - Ian Waring

Chrome Apps are going disconnected. Another twist of the knife into Windowz - clive boulton

Motorola Adv Dev Group had a project ARA - Ian Waring

How to lose money in business- buy patents - Moe Glitz

DEC were going to call 64-bit machine ARA - changed to Alpha AXP, as ARA is Arabic for shit - Ian Waring

Giggle - Francine Hardaway

wait whut? Prime is going up? - Laura Norvig

Not peanuts to most - Dale Lature

scoble is quiet today - Tina Chase Gillmor

Really need patents to stave off patent trolls - clive boulton

supposed to go up $20 to $40 - Kevin Marks

they're considering it - Jerome Hughes

I'd still have prime at $20 more. And I never have video - Francine Hardaway

This is interesting post I read from Ilya Grigorik re browsers https://plus.google.com/1145524... - Petr Faitl

Prime is better delivery. next day by 1pm, same day in London and Birmingham here - Ian Waring

I heard 20....99.95 makes sense - Dale Lature

Love Prime - Ian Waring

I have to sign off - it's been a pleasure. See everyone in two weeks! - John Taschek

$40 more is a different story - Francine Hardaway

by JOhn - Tina Chase Gillmor

Apple split Apple TV into it's own category on the store - Jerome Hughes

Bye John - Francine Hardaway

I stuck $4K in each of Liquid Metal and GT Advanced Tech - up 66% and 11% in last 2 weeks - Ian Waring

apple says this for several quarters now? - Ludwig Ederle

Facebook App called "Paper" - Ian Waring

It would be interesting to see if Paper will ultimately be a cross-platform app or a "closed-garden." I think it would have a huge impact if people will be able to post on Twitter, for example. - Nir Ben Yona

Liquid Metal has 17 Apple patents, GTAT have Sapphire screen plant in Arizona - Ian Waring

the Paper app is iPhone only, not even iPad - Kevin Marks

Samna - Ian Waring

BTW, FB Messenger is the leading IM app in the US. Whatsapp controls most of the others. Line in Japan. - Nir Ben Yona

Lotus Ami - Ian Waring

trillian? - Laura Norvig

Apple trademarking iWatch in several countries - Ian Waring

hootsuite - Ian Waring

I don't see the logo - Francine Hardaway

@Francine Enlarge your screen. - Nir Ben Yona

Google+ is the single signon - Ian Waring

it's ok you dont need to see the skype logo Francine ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor

Happy not to see it:-) - Francine Hardaway

one backend to service them all - Jerome Hughes

oops, my son let the dogs out when he went out - Kevin Marks

@Robert, RE: Paper, agree, a gentle migration to a new interface...built by a team called Labs no? Also a vehicle for video ads too yah? - J.C. Bouvier

I couldn't download it on iPad last night Kevin - Francine Hardaway

You can look at how LinkedIn has buried Pulse News within. Don't care for that Yahoo! approach. - Alex de Soto

I had it working on my old Nexus 7 tab - Ian Waring

I did too, but then I wiped it to give to my son - Kevin Marks

That's the lean startup methodology - Francine Hardaway

Facebook Must be the most expensive App Company in the world - Moe Glitz

main thing is that the apps get those who'd leave to keep using their services from a different interface - Jerome Hughes

Poke, Home. Failures - Moe Glitz

I don't use anything on FB but the newsfeed - Francine Hardaway

Facebook camera - Kevin Marks

Oh, and events - Francine Hardaway

Facebook looking to allow anonymity soon - Ian Waring

Flipboard cuts through Paper - Moe Glitz

i'm always amazed at how much I love this conversation ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor

their events don't pipe into calendar any more - Kevin Marks

Apps are like "appendages" to the OS? - Alex de Soto

and they'll migrate behaviors from the main app to other apps as they find them more useful for those behaviors - Jerome Hughes

I have one private Group on Facebook (Social Media Nonprofit Friends) I use for professional development, just-in-time answers. But that just happens to be a great community - we would be comfortable using any tool to communicate. The rest of FB is meh to me. - Laura Norvig

Two datapoints, Steve - Francine Hardaway

Look how differently each of us use FB - Francine Hardaway

Ben Evans and app paradigms: http://ben-evans.com/benedic... - Ian Waring

ask a fish about the ocean - Jerome Hughes

Steve, she uses Instagram...that's for sure. - Nir Ben Yona

bingo keith. kids know what apps they use. maybe she just doesn't resonate with the word app. - Laura Norvig

"How do you send messages to a friend...?" Not, what app...? - Tom Guarriello

Exactly - Francine Hardaway

Ben Evans: Google is the first to advance interaction models that are not remotely webby (such as Now) - Ian Waring

i think the younger gen isn't as brand loyal as their parents - Tina Chase Gillmor

the back of the fork - Kevin Marks

A brand is a promise - Francine Hardaway

And how @Tina - J.C. Bouvier

Oh you Englismen... back of the fork - Tina Chase Gillmor

This generation's feast moves to the latest and greatest wherever it is... - J.C. Bouvier

That would fail like poke did - Francine Hardaway

And (pop) culture - Ludwig Ederle

On the Paper app itself, how can they claim a 'distraction' free environment w/out ads? Are they charging the outlets like Atlantic & NatGeo for an extended schema of data from Paper users? - J.C. Bouvier

Totally - Francine Hardaway

But that isn't brand loyalty - Francine Hardaway

I use FB messenger more than I thought i ever would - Tina Chase Gillmor

Not sure that people will necessarily use these apps in 5/10 years (FB, Twitter, Instagram). - Nir Ben Yona

I use FB messenger a lot because I can reach people that way - Francine Hardaway

People associate with process flows, not apps - Ian Waring

Get Taxi - Nir Ben Yona

combination of utility and popularity makes an app go. - Laura Norvig

I use FB messenger cos twitter won't let me dm links any more - Kevin Marks

you a quality loyal Robert. If Uber's quality sinks, you will jump.... and fast - Tina Chase Gillmor

Facebook's mobile app wouldn't stop demanding that I install the damn messenger app...so I finally did...I think the multiple app strategy is their plan, but I don't think it can be a holistic solution for them... - J.C. Bouvier

I see no point why brands should disappear. The more disruption the more you need brands as a guideline to quality and pop culture, no? - Ludwig Ederle

fb messenger on android is really handy - Kevin Marks

Ben Evans: This is the key reason why the new social messaging apps are so interesting - not because they have users and inventory now, but because they can be vectors for some of this sort of behaviour - a third acquisition, discovery and distribution channel besides Facebook and Google. - Ian Waring

Amazon is a good example: Different apps for different tasks but a universal Web presence for all. - Alex de Soto

Agree Kevin - Francine Hardaway

I love FB messenger. - Robert Scoble

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014... - Charles Carrico

But brand alone is nothing - Ludwig Ederle

Uber is in legal trouble see my link above - Charles Carrico

FB has a terrible brand, but the nectwork effect keeps us on it - Francine Hardaway

+1 Keith This is how brands are built: association - Tom Guarriello

this is true. i dont like that either - Tina Chase Gillmor

They've all been spam - Francine Hardaway

Twitter DM would be cooler if it worked like Friendfeed - if you could message more than one person privately at once. - Laura Norvig

which FB messenger does enable - Kevin Marks

Francine: I don't know. I think Facebook's brand is on a major rebound. People are finally figuring out it's better than Twitter or Google+ in many ways. - Robert Scoble

Wow, Robert, I totally disagree. Facebook is getting quieter and quieter. They are making it really hard for Pages content to be seen in feeds. Teens are leaving. - Laura Norvig

Laura: not in my world. - Robert Scoble

Not among kids, Robert. And actually not even among "normal" people my age. People groan about FB, and use it reluctantly - Francine Hardaway

There's no joy in using FB - Francine Hardaway

i'm gonna hace to bring Steve's monitor up about 6 inches so he doesnt look down when he's talking to everyone - Tina Chase Gillmor

I don't think Facebook is struggling on mobile at all - Ludwig Ederle

No, because advertisers are starting to move their ad spend to FB. - Francine Hardaway

he's gonna blow! - Tina Chase Gillmor

Tina: You must find a thicker John Lennon book. - Alex de Soto

Funny how Joy comes and goes. Path seemed joyous at first. Lots of folks had joy with Tumblr. - Laura Norvig

I think Robert's right. FB is like McDonald's. Everybody hates it. - Tom Guarriello

Maybe they just love the Ritz, Robert - Francine Hardaway

no, that's because of YOUR brand, Robert! - Laura Norvig

He's blowing right now!!! - Tina Chase Gillmor

Facebook notifications are pretty good. - Alex de Soto

+1 TOm., It;s not dying, but it's not joyous either - Francine Hardaway

yawn - Ian Waring

FB is a utility now. - Francine Hardaway

GO ROBERT!! - J.C. Bouvier

FB isn't dying and isn't fun. QED - Francine Hardaway

and, Francine, everybody's ashamed of using it... - Tom Guarriello

Roberts stop listening - Ian Waring

On the Desktop yes. Mobile no - Moe Glitz

I totally agree with robert - Ludwig Ederle

exactly Tom. Like MacDonald's - Francine Hardaway

never heard of We chat - Dale Lature

hm, forgot my snapchat password - Kevin Marks

Laura it has NOTHING to do with my brand. i talk with hundreds of normal people and watch their behaviors. - Robert Scoble

We chat on Facebook - Ludwig Ederle

capture the people who are leaving because of inefficiencies in the thing they won't allow you to change - Jerome Hughes

Dale - 400m users. Mainly in Asia. WhatsApp has a similar number in Europe and US - Keith Teare

The people I just showed you online are NOT there because I am. - Robert Scoble

I'd agree with the McDonald's analogy. Popular but not cool. - Laura Norvig

WeChat is china first - Kevin Marks

I won't get it -iPhone only - Kevin Marks

no doubt that the most liukely place to find just about anyone is on the Facebook chat list - Dale Lature

they're trying to make sure the back end is for everybody, as everybody being available from the backend is their advantage - Jerome Hughes

Feedly is brilliant - Ian Waring

Gillmor gang is on mine - Ian Waring

I use Digg Reader. Every day - Francine Hardaway

I'm big Feedly user - Tom Guarriello

For sure Paper will compete with FlipBoard...everyone is trying for better news...I wonder if Yahoo! built their news app in response to Paper or vice versa? - J.C. Bouvier

Feedly is great. - Alex de Soto

I only used flipboard on iPad - when my iPad was stolen, I'm finished with flip and use individual apps on iphone - Charles Carrico

Feedly is No.1 traffic source for many of the big websites. - Nir Ben Yona

Let's not go there ... - Laura Norvig

But Flipboard is visual. - Alex de Soto

@Tom, have Feedly, but never seem to have time to open it on iOS or OS X... - J.C. Bouvier

the visual aspect of Flipboard doesn't work on iPhone - screen is too small - Charles Carrico

RSS is Dead, Long Live RSS - for the consumer, it's about what flows in the pipes - Jerome Hughes

Medium will never get large - Moe Glitz

Medium looks like a fad to me, but hey, I could be wrong - Tom Guarriello

I'd use Tumblr rather than Medium (too San Francisco-ish), - clive boulton

No mention of Super Bowl on the show - Moe Glitz

I use Flipboard on Nexus 5 and iPhone and it works fine for me. Easy to flip those items up. Does give my thumb a workout though. And it actually works well on Windows 8 too. - Alex de Soto

I'm w/you @Moe, too long form...people see paragraphs and glaze over...'TIme to read' is helpful, if everyone reads at a Master's candidate level... - J.C. Bouvier

Or Rugby with Shoulder Pads - Moe Glitz

(hand up) - Ian Waring

*raises hand* - J.C. Bouvier

LOL proof that it's not a technical problem - Jerome Hughes

Medium won't be a real tool until Nick Bilton or Brad Stone write a book... - J.C. Bouvier

pownce rip - Kevin Marks

earlier today... Dave Winer's tweet ☮ ‏@davewiner 6h I hope someday someone pollutes Steve Gillmor and Mike Arrington's life with "dead" metaphors. - Tina Chase Gillmor

not a technical problem, a robert not listening problem - Kevin Marks

Tumblr with Disqus comments - clive boulton

Kevin: sorry for talking over you. - Robert Scoble

Tech-the new Beauty Pageant - Moe Glitz

Clive: Not gonna happen. David don't like it. - Nir Ben Yona

Don't mistake me, I really like Medium...however if the focus of the tool is the display of words in text at a length of more than a Facebook status update; that isn't where the traffic trends are pointing for mass consumption on a scale like Facebook... - J.C. Bouvier

feel for Robert as often have the same issue - Jerome Hughes

Relevant to today's discussion - MG on transition of social networks and apps http://parislemon.com/post... - Laura Norvig

Yeah not sure. Usually Robert hears and keeps off of other dialog - Tina Chase Gillmor

it can be his skype cutting us out - Kevin Marks

Moe, what was that about a Superb Owl? - Laura Norvig

Yeah, it's hard to hear today. - Robert Scoble

The best thing about Medium is the interface. - Francine Hardaway

Francine: yes. - Robert Scoble

Is Nexus supposed to go away with Motorola? - Kevin Bryan

Robert stay on the line after the show. Letr's see if we can figure it out - Tina Chase Gillmor

Patents! - Ian Waring

Apple TV rumored to include integrated AirPort, gaming, etc? - Jerome Hughes

Halo Product - Ian Waring

Google working on Skynet at the moment - Moe Glitz

Deep mind was a big deal - Moe Glitz

Agree with Ian. No one really knows the actual value of Motorola patents. - Nir Ben Yona

as a hedge against msft patents - Kevin Marks

Google stopped folks playing Atari video games - Ian Waring

Whisper, Secret. Hush is coming next - Moe Glitz

followed by shhhhh - Tina Chase Gillmor

Tks for calling it out @Keith, I might have missed it... - J.C. Bouvier

where was that Ian? missed it - Kevin Marks

STFU is the next app - Kevin Marks

Nir Ben Yona: David's right Tumblr reblogs more successful, but some folks custom adding Disqus comments. - clive boulton

Microsoft still getting Android menace payments (and market share data from "licensees")? - Ian Waring

MG - "There is a lot of noise out there. But there is also a lot of opportunity. Because the age of the social network is ending." - http://parislemon.com/post... - Keith Teare

more app-centric fluff though - Kevin Marks

Joke - your commentary from TWIG on what Deepmind did with video games - Ian Waring

ahah! - Kevin Marks

Social network is ending? Social is dead? really? - Tina Chase Gillmor

Lol laura - Moe Glitz

I want you to see my answer to MG: https://www.facebook.com/parisle... - Robert Scoble

The social networking era hasn't even started yet - Ludwig Ederle

Clive, yeah.. you can sort it out. - Nir Ben Yona

social is implicit infrastructure is the point - Kevin Marks

Tina, a very link-baity title but a decent article. - Laura Norvig

water flows to the low points unless coerced - Jerome Hughes

Facebook having to keep the stock price up by driving massive audience is driving Zuck into growing lower demographic audiences. WalmartBook - clive boulton

You really should keep this show to one hour, Steve. *doesn't need an app to say that* - Laura Norvig

Facebook is the new Comcast - Moe Glitz

Facebook needs to be a bit more solid on not hiding friend statuses selectively - Ian Waring

Facebook is the new Yahoo - it feels like a portal page when I go there - Kevin Marks

Yahoo = dead meat - Ian Waring

FB needs to tell us how to get the people we want into our feeds - Francine Hardaway

+1 Francine - Tom Guarriello

+1 Francine - Ian Waring

+1 Francine - clive boulton

please ignore the curator behind the curtain, and trust implicitly that we're doing what's best for you - Jerome Hughes

PostSecret app'ified - Ian Waring

I left FB because Zucks graph sucks in too much past not enough future - clive boulton

True Francine. Currently they want to get Advertisers into our feeds - Moe Glitz

And we trust Google's algorithms to filter all knowledge? - Alex de Soto

Yeah but PostSecret is totally anonymous/random - not for people who know each other. - Laura Norvig

Tx guys, TGIF and have a great weekend... - J.C. Bouvier

GG looks great, Tina! - Tom Guarriello

If you dont know where the message has come from, do you know? - Ian Waring

no we don't but they seem better at it then FB, because they have another source of ad revenue - Kevin Marks

Kevin's right there. I'm seeing a ton of curated content from Google Now lately. I'ts all been signal; no noise. - Kevin Bryan

Any platform where we can hear when GG is about to be aired? I get 2 mins notice... - Ian Waring

Did I miss a convo about the GOOG MOTO sale? - J.C. Bouvier

You are welcome Steve - Francine Hardaway

Kevin: GOogle+ is very noisy for me, but watch what they do to join more of Google+ into Google Search Engine and make it possible for developers to get a higher virality and conversion rate. - Robert Scoble

Ian, Steve betlieves we should be a spontaneous community - Francine Hardaway

Great show! - Robert Scoble

GG looks great in HD - clive boulton

Was a great show - Francine Hardaway

Francine, has FB not made it clear that adding someone to the close friends list brings you everything? or does it? reviewing someone's page often shows plenty you'd have missed otherwise - Jerome Hughes

Great show, but if you're broadcasting Saturday, what time? - Ian Waring

Who's going to win the "Big Game," the "Pot Bowl?" - Alex de Soto

clive boulton: I agree. Show looks very HD. - Kevin Bryan

Currently 10:40pm here - Ian Waring

Last Saturday, you did the prog 2 hours early - Ian Waring

Time for next Saturday please? - Ian Waring

Yeah Tina! - Alex de Soto

Ooo, I missed the beginning, something to look forward to - Tom Guarriello

Time??? - Ian Waring

Jerry I do that. It's not clear tho - Francine Hardaway

10 a.m.! - Robert Scoble

Thanks for mentioning Medium. Hadn't heard of that one before. - Kevin Bryan

Thanks to everyone for joining us! - Robert Scoble

Thank you Robert - Ian Waring

Thank you! Later.... - Alex de Soto

Great weekend everyone! - Nir Ben Yona

thanks to all! - Jerome Hughes

By the way, if you're English: Brilliant, funny journalism: http://t.co/Z0Sum0uK3t #hollande #cornered - Ian Waring

Oh, one more reason Twitter's great: follow Joyce Carol Oates! You won't regret it. - Tom Guarriello

nice all - floresterrell

upstream went dead - Charles Carrico

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