Gillmor Gang Friday 10.24.14 LIVE recordin

Gillmor Gang Friday 10.24.14 LIVE recording at 1pm PT/4pm ET http://ustream.tv/GillmorGang

Oct 24, 2014

Igano Kagemaru, Laura Norvig, Keith Kesier, sonisingh8044, clive boulton, Moe Glitz, Nir Ben Yona, J.C. Bouvier, ebru, Ludwig Ederle, Tony Stanislawski, Jerome Hughes, and Tina Chase Gillmor liked this

Yup. This is the chat for Gillmor Gang happening at the top of the hour. 1pm PT - Tina Chase Gillmor

Here - Keith Teare

Present! - Chris Hale

Ready to learn. :) - Zachary Grant

booting up the guys - Tina Chase Gillmor

happy Friday, everybody! - Jerome Hughes

I'm here. - Robert Scoble

Evening all - Darren James

Robert. I am interested to hear today about what tools you are playing with these days for email mgt and also maybe contact mgt. Since you deal with a flood of email, i really value your input - Chris Hale

I'm using Google's new Inbox almost exclusively now. - Robert Scoble

Hi all - Tom Guarriello

I LOVE the is chat community. one of my very fav places and peeps - Tina Chase Gillmor

What up Tina G? You are awesome peeps as well! - Chris Hale

@robert, i put in for an invite to Google Inbox. hopefully it will arrive soon. - Chris Hale

This is why i like the 1pm start as its nice to be able to follow the chat feed - Darren James

I got inbox too...I wish it would support Google Apps so I could use it with my work email - Tony Stanislawski

hmm, @Tony, have you seen them say anything about plans to support google apps? - Chris Hale

Invites for inbox anybody? - Ludwig Ederle

No but this is what they usually do with new Apps - Tony Stanislawski

First Ebola reference by Steve! - Tom Guarriello

yeah, anybody got any open invites? - Chris Hale

Hey sure - Tina Chase Gillmor

Apple pay is out now in other tech news - Chris Hale

I do not either! - Tony Stanislawski

Hiya - Ian Waring

I do not think the Inbox is the different. It just puts labels front and center - Tony Stanislawski

And nobody's there...Ello... - Tom Guarriello

Worked in Princeton - Tom Guarriello

I quite enjoyed Steve Ballmer on Charlie Rose.... - Alex de Soto

Facebook Rooms - Moe Glitz

I haven't opened elli in a few weeks - Tina Chase Gillmor

meant ello - Tina Chase Gillmor

Zuckerberg talks Mandarin... - Ian Waring

Oh, hai, gang. Friday already? - Laura Norvig

Napsters is the original culprit - Tony Stanislawski

@Ludwig, I may have an invite...if they offer them...one sec will check. - J.C. Bouvier

Elections in less than 2 weeks - Tony Stanislawski

Amazon should have kept away from Hardware. They should have released their Software Services as Mobile Apps - Moe Glitz

Bob Lefsetz on selling music in era of no gold albums http://lefsetz.com/wordpre... - Tom Guarriello

I think Amazon would have been better off using Google Play instead of doing its own service. - John Taschek

The Google Exec beat Felix Baumgartners jump from Space - Tony Stanislawski

Yo on my iPhone should be reporting Pmarca tweetstorms, silent now for a few weeks.. - Ian Waring

Yah, Ludwig, what email? - J.C. Bouvier

Same for me, Ian - Tom Guarriello

None of other FB apps got traction...except MESG when people were forced to adopt - Tony Stanislawski

[email protected]. Thx! - Ludwig Ederle

sure, np. - J.C. Bouvier

Anonymity is hot, apparently. Not a big fan except in certain specific contexts. Yik Yak is weird, #gamergate sucks. - Laura Norvig

Wow, cool. Thx J. C. I only have an invite to Stuttgart/Germany for you :) - Ludwig Ederle

i have not been successful yet. not sure why - Tina Chase Gillmor

VIP Rooms - Moe Glitz

I am in - Tony Stanislawski

I think its gonna be something. I just can't get it to work for me yet - Tina Chase Gillmor

;) - J.C. Bouvier

Tina - did you download the app, and then use the camera to take a photo of the code? - John Taschek

Not a screen grab... - John Taschek

i did a creen grab - Tina Chase Gillmor

screen grab - Tina Chase Gillmor

Take a photo - John Taschek

It's using the popularity of photo taking -- and then take the photo of the QR code. - John Taschek

In the App - Tony Stanislawski

LOL... - Tony Stanislawski

And to keep it private...not shared with everyone... - Tony Stanislawski

That is what I did Keith - Tony Stanislawski

Chat Rollette Rooms - Moe Glitz

Don't give Steve Inbox...:) - Tony Stanislawski

Steve is making his guests need https://www.youtube.com/watch... - Laura Norvig

What's the app name on the App Store? - Ian Waring

57 Rooms. And Nothing Going On - Moe Glitz

Funny comments :) - John Taschek

Link to Rooms is here. https://itunes.apple.com/us... - John Taschek

Apple SIM dead cuz VZW and AT&T say No - Da

Nice one Moe. - Zachary Grant

Its an optical implementation of continuity, a way of moving a deep link across devices, and apps so long as they can render images. Feels clunky to me. - Simon Benvenutto

there is a room for all of Scoble blocked FB people...:) - Tony Stanislawski

dude, i am just now falling in love with IRC again - Chris Hale

You mean the place where I go for my Movies...USENET... - Tony Stanislawski

Keith is so right on about 1) app silos and 2) the need for niche-specific conversations. - Laura Norvig

For software development , I have made lots of friends lately on IRC. I have learned tons using it - Chris Hale

I agree Laura -- the forums from CompuServe, Prodigy, Usenet, BIX, and where I worked -- The Source - were very important. - John Taschek

trying to use iPad but cant seem to take picture - Darren James

But Scoble is also right. There is a Lord of the Flies effect that happens over time - John Taschek

In order for chat rooms to be useful they need to heavily moderated - Tony Stanislawski

Which most are not willing to do - Tony Stanislawski

I guess that's why really great forums often have a bit of moderation. Pinned FAQs, reminding n00bs to go elsewhere ... - Laura Norvig

Has Kevin set up his I Love Android Room yet? - Moe Glitz

I think they need to be automatically archived with intelligent systems - John Taschek

avsforums are great - Tony Stanislawski

Link Keith? - Tony Stanislawski

Ello sucks! - Tony Stanislawski

Perhaps Brian Wilson has set up his VIP "In My Room" - Moe Glitz

Everybody gets their name on these new services and then go back to Twitter - Tom Guarriello

@John @Keith: Kevin Marks link a few weeks ago still cracks me up regarding Ello. I'm originally from Chingford and remember it being played as a youngster: http://youtu.be/hhHJ4zEKDZY - Darren James

Cute - Robert Scoble dances when he uses his standing desk - Tina Chase Gillmor

:-) It keeps me from talking too much. - Robert Scoble

Installed - any invites into a room? - Ian Waring

Can't do THAT on FriendFeed. Which is probably why Steve likes this. Heheh. - Robert Scoble

Link to Room, via John B - https://twitter.com/Borthwi... - John Taschek

Just hold up a pic - that'll do it! - Ian Waring

Sorry Tony - can't remember what link you need - Keith Teare

The one you mentioned a few minutes ago..A blog posting - Tony Stanislawski

Keith you quoted it. - Tony Stanislawski

Most of the stuff that Facebook Labs have launched on Mobile has flopped. No wonder why they had to acquire both Instagram & WhatsApp - Moe Glitz

Somebody better walk me through the FB rooms app. I have QR code in my photos but can't do anything else. Im on 7.0.2 btw. don't ask ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor

Have you guys discussed Venmo here? I thought this post was pretty interesting - saw it right about the same time I started hearing about Venmo everywhere http://www.zeigen.com/blog... (sort of apropos of identity) - Laura Norvig

Any thoughts on Pinterest. Back in the UK no one uses it. The Gang hardly ever mentions it - Moe Glitz

i just started using pinterest a little bit recently - Chris Hale

i clip mobile app uis i like - Chris Hale

I teach Twitter to students. Once I explain it to them, get them to follow at least 100 people, most of them have switch turn on and see its value... - Tony Stanislawski

I think that is Twitters biggest issue - Tony Stanislawski

Borthwick knew!! - Tom Guarriello

I found out about FB Rooms from Yo. - Alex de Soto

Yo could be the conductor for the Messaging Bus - Moe Glitz

Robert stop talking about it. I do not have it yet and jealous! - Tony Stanislawski

My Yo has gone mute for several weeks - Ian Waring

That feature is pretty cool. It will make it easier for me to meet up with you when you are in town - Chris Hale

My iPad Mini doesn't like the Rooms invite :-( - Ian Waring

Saves having to post on FB where you are and what you are doing - Chris Hale

RObert - do you use the voice part of FB Messenger? - Tina Chase Gillmor

Does anyone else here have this feature on FB mobile....??? - Tony Stanislawski

I totally agree with Robert on the privacy thing and advertising location - Chris Hale

I think that is a no-brainer for young folks - phones help them connect IRL big time. - Laura Norvig

I have had a lot of fun adventures by virtue of knowing where friends and acquaintences are in real time - Chris Hale

Tina: yes. - Robert Scoble

I signed in and posted a photo - Tom Guarriello

@Laura Yup, the students I interact with on a daily basis would be lost without their phone - Zachary Grant

do we all shift to personal datastore's: camlistore.org metaphor on phones? - clive boulton

robert - I haven't been. Rebecca Woodcock talked about using it on G3 today - Tina Chase Gillmor

I mostly use it where voice is more appropriate. If I'm hanging out with a famous music star you will REALLY appreciate the voice. - Robert Scoble

Notifications...http://www.slate.com/blogs... - Tony Stanislawski

Facebook develops Channels. - Moe Glitz

Notifications - the end of Apps: https://twitter.com/jtasche... - John Taschek

Facebook has become a branded house http://intheimage.com/blog... - Tom Guarriello

Many Facebook big blue accounts look dead to me - clive boulton

Youngsters have FB accounts, but use other apps to message - clive boulton

Some break prime time others turn into Test Card Channels - Moe Glitz

Teens use brand mentions and links to game the FB algorithm so they end up prominently on their friends timelines. - Alex de Soto

My bot boys!!! - Tom Guarriello

boy am i mad that i can't get in there. cool that we are trying this out together in real time tho - Tina Chase Gillmor

Facebook should dump Paper and acquire Flipboard - Moe Glitz

i love flipboard. I hope they stay independent. I think facebook would ruin Flipboard - Chris Hale

it would destroy flipboards credibility in my eyes. - Chris Hale

I do have an invite to Inbox first email posted gets it - Tony Stanislawski

Does Flipboard have credibility? It's a design-based reader. - John Taschek

[email protected] - Tina Chase Gillmor

:-) - Tina Chase Gillmor

John: yes. Flipboard's founders will be here in an hour. It is MASSIVE. - Robert Scoble

Anybody have any Inbox invites? - Tom Guarriello

when i say credibility, i guess i am implying about the quality of the stories and news they curate that i really like - Chris Hale

Tom, you need to get them from Google. - Robert Scoble

doh! pwnd by Tina! Would love an invite - Laura Norvig

Sent Tina! - Tony Stanislawski

I applied, Robert. - Tom Guarriello

Got another for anyone that wants one - Tony Stanislawski

Chris - possibly. Robert - credibility isn't popularity - John Taschek

if fb bought them, i would expect the news to be manipulated a bit in a way that is geared to sell stuff to me - Chris Hale

thanks Tony. I'll get it later but many thanks - Tina Chase Gillmor

Yes, Tony - Tom Guarriello

laura.norvig at the gee mail - Laura Norvig

Economist vs USA Today vs blog - John Taschek

of course this is all theory - Chris Hale

Tom dot guarriello at gee mail - Tom Guarriello

but i find a lot of value in the quality of there curated news topics - Chris Hale

it saves me uselessly having to cull through articles on my own - Chris Hale

Chris - good point. Quality is true. It's very accessible. - John Taschek

Sent Laura and Tom - Tony Stanislawski

I have no more invites sorry - Tony Stanislawski

Big blue activity more around social brands like Scobilzer is, far less around youngsters. - clive boulton

thanks, Tony! stoked. - Laura Norvig

Curation is an important and somewhat lost talent - John Taschek

it is a huge time saver fo rme - Chris Hale

Thanks, Tony - Tom Guarriello

I agree John. - Chris Hale

I had two invites. Tom and Tina are in. Sorry no more. - Robert Scoble

I never thought well curated news would become important to me but now that i am super busy and dont have time to flip through a lot of it, it is a nice time saver for me to have well curated news - Chris Hale

Human curation vs. machine curation is still an epic battle. I vote for humans. - Laura Norvig

Flipboard is the only App that creates relative Display Advertising that feels supplementary - Moe Glitz

Chris: Flipboard is moving toward machine learning, with human help. - Robert Scoble

plus it is helping me build my own brand and followers because i can clip things and create my own magazine - Chris Hale

A deep link to me http://chatcenter.me/keith - Keith Teare

One of Twitters issues is onboarding... - Tony Stanislawski

I helps me to aspire to be scobleesque in curating tech news people might care about - Chris Hale

like Twitter groups - Tina Chase Gillmor

A master of curating content about curation = http://curation.masternewmedia.org/ - Laura Norvig

Machine learning will win, algorithms for the most important news should be fairly easy. The obstacles now are the content creators and the economics of paywalls - John Taschek

Touch ID + 1 Password in iOS8.1 = Big win - Tom Guarriello

Anybody else lost video feed? - Darren James

@Tom, why do you like it? - Chris Hale

I use lastpass with two factor auth. I used to have 1password - Chris Hale

Re: curation. Great story: The Laborers Who Keep Dick Pics and Beheadings Out of Your Facebook Feed http://www.wired.com/2014... - christina sponselli

So easy to sign in to anything, Chris. - Tom Guarriello

Alpha House - Tom Guarriello

John, I like to read commentaries about, and synopses of, curated content that have a definite point of view. - Laura Norvig

Ok in London Darren - Moe Glitz

Got to run...Good show! Have a good weekend! Go Giant for my SFO friends... - Tony Stanislawski

The commentaries will still exist. The machine learning will take the best people to that content, and help them promote their new content - John Taschek

Thanks for the invite, Tony - Tom Guarriello

sneeze me. sorry - Tina Chase Gillmor

Christina, cool story! - Laura Norvig

inbox invite; a big android app 36.05MB - clive boulton

Did they have an IOS version of Inbox yet? - Chris Hale

Chris: yes. I only use iOS. - Robert Scoble

Yes... - J.C. Bouvier

Yes, Chris. Just downloaded it - Tom Guarriello

@Moe: Strange, Internet working fine but Ustream not working for me ;-( - Darren James

I think I have at least one more Inbox invite if anyone needs it - J.C. Bouvier

JC, I need one - Chris Hale

I could use an invite ... [email protected] - John Taschek

Pick me, pick me - Chris Hale

[email protected] - Chris Hale

Pick Chris - - John Taschek

John T, you rock - Chris Hale

How come you arent on the show more often these days? Just busy with work? - Chris Hale

Back up...Strange! - Darren James

Steve, you run a custom tweetstream using Tweetdeck, which is where you can curate it. - christina sponselli

Chris/John, look for your invites...says both were sent. - J.C. Bouvier

Just forwarded you one, John T - Tom Guarriello

Thank you JC!!! - Chris Hale

This topic you GG is talking about is super interesting to me. - Chris Hale

Cord shavers, FTW - Tom Guarriello

I think i commented last week about this. I think cell companies are going to start favoring traffic for certain services like these - Chris Hale

yes I just got into Rooms. Shot a photo from my monitor of the invite QR - Tina Chase Gillmor

I think this is going to be used as cell company feature differentiation - Chris Hale

Props to Google two-step touch USB: http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014... - clive boulton

Robert just got my cold ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor

Lol, Tina! - Tom Guarriello

Yeah, i was happy to see that Clive. I have a yubikey i use for two factor auth - Chris Hale

Gesundheit! - Alex de Soto

These TV moves will get Apple to ramp up their TV Hobby. - Moe Glitz

Sports is the big shoe to drop... - Tom Guarriello

two factor touch should stop celebrity hacking (if they use it) - clive boulton

I agree Tom - Chris Hale

The soggy middle of cable networks... - Tom Guarriello

Just saw Mischa's mother's sculpture exhibition at a Gallery in DC, Keith. She was interesting. - Tom Guarriello

Thank you J.C. - and Thanks, Tom - Chris - did you get one? - John Taschek

Yes, i got one - Chris Hale

Watched shows streamed online. Usually same 2-3 ads on continuous repeat. Looks like advertisers aren't sold on concept...yet. - christina sponselli

Here's the link to Mischa's mother's exhibit, Keith http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifesty... - Tom Guarriello

Been listening to this in the car. It's the best show in a long time! - Francine Hardaway

Speaking of calendaring. What do folks use for calendering?? - Chris Hale

Anxious to try Rooms now. - Francine Hardaway

I am starting to use calendly - Chris Hale

and hoping to find something similar but cheaper - Chris Hale

please send [email protected] an Inbox invite, too, thanks in advance - Jerome Hughes

I have totally switched over to Inbox.I love it - Francine Hardaway

anybody have any cool calendar solutions they endorse? Robert, John? - Chris Hale

Tempo. - Robert Scoble

FB used machine learning to build a service for deceased members with public profiles (I think it's been buried) [looking for the linky] - clive boulton

Deep learning, for sure, Dan. - Tom Guarriello

I use Google Calendar for everything -- but I try many.. Like Sunrise, Cal, etc. and eventually I don't find the value of a non-integrated solution. - John Taschek

Inbox looks great - it's perfect for what I do. In fact, it does what I do without me having to do it. - John Taschek

Google X is becoming Skynet - Moe Glitz

Emotion recognition engines... - Tom Guarriello

Has anyone read Superintelligence by Nick Bostrom? Wow! - Tom Guarriello

Well, the missing link i am looking for is a decent service i can use to tell people publicly my availability so they can schedule time with me - Chris Hale

You can publish Google calendars - John Taschek

calendly does a decent job but 10 bucks a month is a little more expensive than i feel its worth. - Chris Hale

John. I might have to dig into my google calendar a little deeper. - Chris Hale

https://support.google.com/calenda... - John Taschek

Thank you guys for your insight on that - Chris Hale

How do I get into that Room????? - Francine Hardaway

Fun GG...Hi Tina! - Tom Guarriello

Thanks, everyone! - Robert Scoble

Francine, see the QR-like image above in stream - Tom Guarriello

Agreed with Steve's sentiment. - Chris Hale

Have a great weekend! - Alex de Soto

A little more Alexia T would also be a welcome addition - Chris Hale

Great show once again - Moe Glitz

yay Francine - clive boulton

I haven't seen any images. - Francine Hardaway

Someone put one up - Francine Hardaway

It's a link, Francine - Tom Guarriello

OK - Francine Hardaway

Alexia will neon soon. She's been crazy busy with TC Disrupt and London events - Tina Chase Gillmor

awesome news - Chris Hale

so am i missing something. Are folks playing around in FB room right now? - Chris Hale

https://twitter.com/Borthwi... - Jerome Hughes

open the app and say you have one of those, focus on it and you're in - Jerome Hughes

Here ya go, Francine https://twitter.com/Borthwi... - Tom Guarriello

If one of you fine folks sent me an Inbox invitation... Thank You! - Alex de Soto

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