Gillmor Gang Friday 10.24.14 LIVE recording at 1pm PT/4pm ET http://ustream.tv/GillmorGang
Igano Kagemaru,
Laura Norvig,
Keith Kesier,
sonisingh8044,
clive boulton,
Moe Glitz,
Nir Ben Yona,
J.C. Bouvier,
ebru,
Ludwig Ederle,
Tony Stanislawski,
Jerome Hughes,
and
Tina Chase Gillmor
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Yup. This is the chat for Gillmor Gang happening at the top of the hour. 1pm PT
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Here
- Keith Teare
Present!
- Chris Hale
Ready to learn. :)
- Zachary Grant
booting up the guys
- Tina Chase Gillmor
happy Friday, everybody!
- Jerome Hughes
I'm here.
- Robert Scoble
Evening all
- Darren James
Robert. I am interested to hear today about what tools you are playing with these days for email mgt and also maybe contact mgt. Since you deal with a flood of email, i really value your input
- Chris Hale
I'm using Google's new Inbox almost exclusively now.
- Robert Scoble
Hi all
- Tom Guarriello
I LOVE the is chat community. one of my very fav places and peeps
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What up Tina G? You are awesome peeps as well!
- Chris Hale
@robert, i put in for an invite to Google Inbox. hopefully it will arrive soon.
- Chris Hale
This is why i like the 1pm start as its nice to be able to follow the chat feed
- Darren James
I got inbox too...I wish it would support Google Apps so I could use it with my work email
- Tony Stanislawski
hmm, @Tony, have you seen them say anything about plans to support google apps?
- Chris Hale
Invites for inbox anybody?
- Ludwig Ederle
No but this is what they usually do with new Apps
- Tony Stanislawski
First Ebola reference by Steve!
- Tom Guarriello
yeah, anybody got any open invites?
- Chris Hale
Hey sure
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple pay is out now in other tech news
- Chris Hale
I do not either!
- Tony Stanislawski
Hiya
- Ian Waring
I do not think the Inbox is the different. It just puts labels front and center
- Tony Stanislawski
And nobody's there...Ello...
- Tom Guarriello
Worked in Princeton
- Tom Guarriello
I quite enjoyed Steve Ballmer on Charlie Rose....
- Alex de Soto
Facebook Rooms
- Moe Glitz
I haven't opened elli in a few weeks
- Tina Chase Gillmor
meant ello
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Zuckerberg talks Mandarin...
- Ian Waring
Oh, hai, gang. Friday already?
- Laura Norvig
Napsters is the original culprit
- Tony Stanislawski
@Ludwig, I may have an invite...if they offer them...one sec will check.
- J.C. Bouvier
Elections in less than 2 weeks
- Tony Stanislawski
Amazon should have kept away from Hardware. They should have released their Software Services as Mobile Apps
- Moe Glitz
Bob Lefsetz on selling music in era of no gold albums http://lefsetz.com/wordpre...
- Tom Guarriello
I think Amazon would have been better off using Google Play instead of doing its own service.
- John Taschek
The Google Exec beat Felix Baumgartners jump from Space
- Tony Stanislawski
Yo on my iPhone should be reporting Pmarca tweetstorms, silent now for a few weeks..
- Ian Waring
Yah, Ludwig, what email?
- J.C. Bouvier
Same for me, Ian
- Tom Guarriello
None of other FB apps got traction...except MESG when people were forced to adopt
- Tony Stanislawski
[email protected]. Thx!
- Ludwig Ederle
sure, np.
- J.C. Bouvier
Anonymity is hot, apparently. Not a big fan except in certain specific contexts. Yik Yak is weird, #gamergate sucks.
- Laura Norvig
Wow, cool. Thx J. C. I only have an invite to Stuttgart/Germany for you :)
- Ludwig Ederle
i have not been successful yet. not sure why
- Tina Chase Gillmor
VIP Rooms
- Moe Glitz
I am in
- Tony Stanislawski
I think its gonna be something. I just can't get it to work for me yet
- Tina Chase Gillmor
;)
- J.C. Bouvier
Tina - did you download the app, and then use the camera to take a photo of the code?
- John Taschek
Not a screen grab...
- John Taschek
i did a creen grab
- Tina Chase Gillmor
screen grab
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Take a photo
- John Taschek
It's using the popularity of photo taking -- and then take the photo of the QR code.
- John Taschek
In the App
- Tony Stanislawski
LOL...
- Tony Stanislawski
And to keep it private...not shared with everyone...
- Tony Stanislawski
That is what I did Keith
- Tony Stanislawski
Chat Rollette Rooms
- Moe Glitz
Don't give Steve Inbox...:)
- Tony Stanislawski
Steve is making his guests need https://www.youtube.com/watch...
- Laura Norvig
What's the app name on the App Store?
- Ian Waring
57 Rooms. And Nothing Going On
- Moe Glitz
Funny comments :)
- John Taschek
Link to Rooms is here. https://itunes.apple.com/us...
- John Taschek
Apple SIM dead cuz VZW and AT&T say No
- Da
Nice one Moe.
- Zachary Grant
Its an optical implementation of continuity, a way of moving a deep link across devices, and apps so long as they can render images. Feels clunky to me.
- Simon Benvenutto
there is a room for all of Scoble blocked FB people...:)
- Tony Stanislawski
dude, i am just now falling in love with IRC again
- Chris Hale
You mean the place where I go for my Movies...USENET...
- Tony Stanislawski
Keith is so right on about 1) app silos and 2) the need for niche-specific conversations.
- Laura Norvig
For software development , I have made lots of friends lately on IRC. I have learned tons using it
- Chris Hale
I agree Laura -- the forums from CompuServe, Prodigy, Usenet, BIX, and where I worked -- The Source - were very important.
- John Taschek
trying to use iPad but cant seem to take picture
- Darren James
But Scoble is also right. There is a Lord of the Flies effect that happens over time
- John Taschek
In order for chat rooms to be useful they need to heavily moderated
- Tony Stanislawski
Which most are not willing to do
- Tony Stanislawski
I guess that's why really great forums often have a bit of moderation. Pinned FAQs, reminding n00bs to go elsewhere ...
- Laura Norvig
Has Kevin set up his I Love Android Room yet?
- Moe Glitz
I think they need to be automatically archived with intelligent systems
- John Taschek
avsforums are great
- Tony Stanislawski
Link Keith?
- Tony Stanislawski
Ello sucks!
- Tony Stanislawski
Perhaps Brian Wilson has set up his VIP "In My Room"
- Moe Glitz
Everybody gets their name on these new services and then go back to Twitter
- Tom Guarriello
@John @Keith: Kevin Marks link a few weeks ago still cracks me up regarding Ello. I'm originally from Chingford and remember it being played as a youngster: http://youtu.be/hhHJ4zEKDZY
- Darren James
Cute - Robert Scoble dances when he uses his standing desk
- Tina Chase Gillmor
:-) It keeps me from talking too much.
- Robert Scoble
Installed - any invites into a room?
- Ian Waring
Can't do THAT on FriendFeed. Which is probably why Steve likes this. Heheh.
- Robert Scoble
Link to Room, via John B - https://twitter.com/Borthwi...
- John Taschek
Just hold up a pic - that'll do it!
- Ian Waring
Sorry Tony - can't remember what link you need
- Keith Teare
The one you mentioned a few minutes ago..A blog posting
- Tony Stanislawski
Keith you quoted it.
- Tony Stanislawski
Most of the stuff that Facebook Labs have launched on Mobile has flopped. No wonder why they had to acquire both Instagram & WhatsApp
- Moe Glitz
Somebody better walk me through the FB rooms app. I have QR code in my photos but can't do anything else. Im on 7.0.2 btw. don't ask ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Have you guys discussed Venmo here? I thought this post was pretty interesting - saw it right about the same time I started hearing about Venmo everywhere http://www.zeigen.com/blog... (sort of apropos of identity)
- Laura Norvig
Any thoughts on Pinterest. Back in the UK no one uses it. The Gang hardly ever mentions it
- Moe Glitz
i just started using pinterest a little bit recently
- Chris Hale
i clip mobile app uis i like
- Chris Hale
I teach Twitter to students. Once I explain it to them, get them to follow at least 100 people, most of them have switch turn on and see its value...
- Tony Stanislawski
I think that is Twitters biggest issue
- Tony Stanislawski
Borthwick knew!!
- Tom Guarriello
I found out about FB Rooms from Yo.
- Alex de Soto
Yo could be the conductor for the Messaging Bus
- Moe Glitz
Robert stop talking about it. I do not have it yet and jealous!
- Tony Stanislawski
My Yo has gone mute for several weeks
- Ian Waring
That feature is pretty cool. It will make it easier for me to meet up with you when you are in town
- Chris Hale
My iPad Mini doesn't like the Rooms invite :-(
- Ian Waring
Saves having to post on FB where you are and what you are doing
- Chris Hale
RObert - do you use the voice part of FB Messenger?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Does anyone else here have this feature on FB mobile....???
- Tony Stanislawski
I totally agree with Robert on the privacy thing and advertising location
- Chris Hale
I think that is a no-brainer for young folks - phones help them connect IRL big time.
- Laura Norvig
I have had a lot of fun adventures by virtue of knowing where friends and acquaintences are in real time
- Chris Hale
Tina: yes.
- Robert Scoble
I signed in and posted a photo
- Tom Guarriello
@Laura Yup, the students I interact with on a daily basis would be lost without their phone
- Zachary Grant
do we all shift to personal datastore's: camlistore.org metaphor on phones?
- clive boulton
robert - I haven't been. Rebecca Woodcock talked about using it on G3 today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I mostly use it where voice is more appropriate. If I'm hanging out with a famous music star you will REALLY appreciate the voice.
- Robert Scoble
Notifications...http://www.slate.com/blogs...
- Tony Stanislawski
Facebook develops Channels.
- Moe Glitz
Notifications - the end of Apps: https://twitter.com/jtasche...
- John Taschek
Facebook has become a branded house http://intheimage.com/blog...
- Tom Guarriello
Many Facebook big blue accounts look dead to me
- clive boulton
Youngsters have FB accounts, but use other apps to message
- clive boulton
Some break prime time others turn into Test Card Channels
- Moe Glitz
Teens use brand mentions and links to game the FB algorithm so they end up prominently on their friends timelines.
- Alex de Soto
My bot boys!!!
- Tom Guarriello
boy am i mad that i can't get in there. cool that we are trying this out together in real time tho
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Facebook should dump Paper and acquire Flipboard
- Moe Glitz
i love flipboard. I hope they stay independent. I think facebook would ruin Flipboard
- Chris Hale
it would destroy flipboards credibility in my eyes.
- Chris Hale
I do have an invite to Inbox first email posted gets it
- Tony Stanislawski
Does Flipboard have credibility? It's a design-based reader.
- John Taschek
:-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
John: yes. Flipboard's founders will be here in an hour. It is MASSIVE.
- Robert Scoble
Anybody have any Inbox invites?
- Tom Guarriello
when i say credibility, i guess i am implying about the quality of the stories and news they curate that i really like
- Chris Hale
Tom, you need to get them from Google.
- Robert Scoble
doh! pwnd by Tina! Would love an invite
- Laura Norvig
Sent Tina!
- Tony Stanislawski
I applied, Robert.
- Tom Guarriello
Got another for anyone that wants one
- Tony Stanislawski
Chris - possibly. Robert - credibility isn't popularity
- John Taschek
if fb bought them, i would expect the news to be manipulated a bit in a way that is geared to sell stuff to me
- Chris Hale
thanks Tony. I'll get it later but many thanks
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yes, Tony
- Tom Guarriello
laura.norvig at the gee mail
- Laura Norvig
Economist vs USA Today vs blog
- John Taschek
of course this is all theory
- Chris Hale
Tom dot guarriello at gee mail
- Tom Guarriello
but i find a lot of value in the quality of there curated news topics
- Chris Hale
it saves me uselessly having to cull through articles on my own
- Chris Hale
Chris - good point. Quality is true. It's very accessible.
- John Taschek
Sent Laura and Tom
- Tony Stanislawski
I have no more invites sorry
- Tony Stanislawski
Big blue activity more around social brands like Scobilzer is, far less around youngsters.
- clive boulton
thanks, Tony! stoked.
- Laura Norvig
Curation is an important and somewhat lost talent
- John Taschek
it is a huge time saver fo rme
- Chris Hale
Thanks, Tony
- Tom Guarriello
I agree John.
- Chris Hale
I had two invites. Tom and Tina are in. Sorry no more.
- Robert Scoble
I never thought well curated news would become important to me but now that i am super busy and dont have time to flip through a lot of it, it is a nice time saver for me to have well curated news
- Chris Hale
Human curation vs. machine curation is still an epic battle. I vote for humans.
- Laura Norvig
Flipboard is the only App that creates relative Display Advertising that feels supplementary
- Moe Glitz
Chris: Flipboard is moving toward machine learning, with human help.
- Robert Scoble
plus it is helping me build my own brand and followers because i can clip things and create my own magazine
- Chris Hale
A deep link to me http://chatcenter.me/keith
- Keith Teare
One of Twitters issues is onboarding...
- Tony Stanislawski
I helps me to aspire to be scobleesque in curating tech news people might care about
- Chris Hale
like Twitter groups
- Tina Chase Gillmor
A master of curating content about curation = http://curation.masternewmedia.org/
- Laura Norvig
Machine learning will win, algorithms for the most important news should be fairly easy. The obstacles now are the content creators and the economics of paywalls
- John Taschek
Touch ID + 1 Password in iOS8.1 = Big win
- Tom Guarriello
Anybody else lost video feed?
- Darren James
@Tom, why do you like it?
- Chris Hale
I use lastpass with two factor auth. I used to have 1password
- Chris Hale
Re: curation. Great story: The Laborers Who Keep Dick Pics and Beheadings Out of Your Facebook Feed http://www.wired.com/2014...
- christina sponselli
So easy to sign in to anything, Chris.
- Tom Guarriello
Alpha House
- Tom Guarriello
John, I like to read commentaries about, and synopses of, curated content that have a definite point of view.
- Laura Norvig
Ok in London Darren
- Moe Glitz
Got to run...Good show! Have a good weekend! Go Giant for my SFO friends...
- Tony Stanislawski
The commentaries will still exist. The machine learning will take the best people to that content, and help them promote their new content
- John Taschek
Thanks for the invite, Tony
- Tom Guarriello
sneeze me. sorry
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Christina, cool story!
- Laura Norvig
inbox invite; a big android app 36.05MB
- clive boulton
Did they have an IOS version of Inbox yet?
- Chris Hale
Chris: yes. I only use iOS.
- Robert Scoble
Yes...
- J.C. Bouvier
Yes, Chris. Just downloaded it
- Tom Guarriello
@Moe: Strange, Internet working fine but Ustream not working for me ;-(
- Darren James
I think I have at least one more Inbox invite if anyone needs it
- J.C. Bouvier
JC, I need one
- Chris Hale
I could use an invite ... [email protected]
- John Taschek
Pick me, pick me
- Chris Hale
Pick Chris -
- John Taschek
John T, you rock
- Chris Hale
How come you arent on the show more often these days? Just busy with work?
- Chris Hale
Back up...Strange!
- Darren James
Steve, you run a custom tweetstream using Tweetdeck, which is where you can curate it.
- christina sponselli
Chris/John, look for your invites...says both were sent.
- J.C. Bouvier
Just forwarded you one, John T
- Tom Guarriello
Thank you JC!!!
- Chris Hale
This topic you GG is talking about is super interesting to me.
- Chris Hale
Cord shavers, FTW
- Tom Guarriello
I think i commented last week about this. I think cell companies are going to start favoring traffic for certain services like these
- Chris Hale
yes I just got into Rooms. Shot a photo from my monitor of the invite QR
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think this is going to be used as cell company feature differentiation
- Chris Hale
Props to Google two-step touch USB: http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.com/2014...
- clive boulton
Robert just got my cold ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Lol, Tina!
- Tom Guarriello
Yeah, i was happy to see that Clive. I have a yubikey i use for two factor auth
- Chris Hale
Gesundheit!
- Alex de Soto
These TV moves will get Apple to ramp up their TV Hobby.
- Moe Glitz
Sports is the big shoe to drop...
- Tom Guarriello
two factor touch should stop celebrity hacking (if they use it)
- clive boulton
I agree Tom
- Chris Hale
The soggy middle of cable networks...
- Tom Guarriello
Just saw Mischa's mother's sculpture exhibition at a Gallery in DC, Keith. She was interesting.
- Tom Guarriello
Thank you J.C. - and Thanks, Tom - Chris - did you get one?
- John Taschek
Yes, i got one
- Chris Hale
Watched shows streamed online. Usually same 2-3 ads on continuous repeat. Looks like advertisers aren't sold on concept...yet.
- christina sponselli
Here's the link to Mischa's mother's exhibit, Keith http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifesty...
- Tom Guarriello
Been listening to this in the car. It's the best show in a long time!
- Francine Hardaway
Speaking of calendaring. What do folks use for calendering??
- Chris Hale
Anxious to try Rooms now.
- Francine Hardaway
I am starting to use calendly
- Chris Hale
and hoping to find something similar but cheaper
- Chris Hale
please send [email protected] an Inbox invite, too, thanks in advance
- Jerome Hughes
I have totally switched over to Inbox.I love it
- Francine Hardaway
anybody have any cool calendar solutions they endorse? Robert, John?
- Chris Hale
Tempo.
- Robert Scoble
FB used machine learning to build a service for deceased members with public profiles (I think it's been buried) [looking for the linky]
- clive boulton
Deep learning, for sure, Dan.
- Tom Guarriello
I use Google Calendar for everything -- but I try many.. Like Sunrise, Cal, etc. and eventually I don't find the value of a non-integrated solution.
- John Taschek
Inbox looks great - it's perfect for what I do. In fact, it does what I do without me having to do it.
- John Taschek
Google X is becoming Skynet
- Moe Glitz
Emotion recognition engines...
- Tom Guarriello
Has anyone read Superintelligence by Nick Bostrom? Wow!
- Tom Guarriello
Well, the missing link i am looking for is a decent service i can use to tell people publicly my availability so they can schedule time with me
- Chris Hale
You can publish Google calendars
- John Taschek
calendly does a decent job but 10 bucks a month is a little more expensive than i feel its worth.
- Chris Hale
John. I might have to dig into my google calendar a little deeper.
- Chris Hale
Thank you guys for your insight on that
- Chris Hale
How do I get into that Room?????
- Francine Hardaway
Fun GG...Hi Tina!
- Tom Guarriello
Thanks, everyone!
- Robert Scoble
Francine, see the QR-like image above in stream
- Tom Guarriello
Agreed with Steve's sentiment.
- Chris Hale
Have a great weekend!
- Alex de Soto
A little more Alexia T would also be a welcome addition
- Chris Hale
Great show once again
- Moe Glitz
yay Francine
- clive boulton
I haven't seen any images.
- Francine Hardaway
Someone put one up
- Francine Hardaway
It's a link, Francine
- Tom Guarriello
OK
- Francine Hardaway
Alexia will neon soon. She's been crazy busy with TC Disrupt and London events
- Tina Chase Gillmor
awesome news
- Chris Hale
so am i missing something. Are folks playing around in FB room right now?
- Chris Hale
open the app and say you have one of those, focus on it and you're in
- Jerome Hughes
Here ya go, Francine https://twitter.com/Borthwi...
- Tom Guarriello
If one of you fine folks sent me an Inbox invitation... Thank You!
- Alex de Soto