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May 9, 2014 from

Nir Ben Yona, Robert Scoble, Laura Norvig, Ludwig Ederle, and J.C. Bouvier liked this

Is Dre here? - J.C. Bouvier

I'm playing the role of Dre today - Keith Teare

Ha ha...nice. - J.C. Bouvier

Better load up on your "mfs" Keith - Tom Guarriello

You'll make a great Dr. Dre, Keith. - Francine Hardaway

iri man - Keith Teare

iris that is - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define... - Keith Teare

Keith is multitalented for sure. didn't he recently debut his Elvis impression on GG? - Tina Chase Gillmor

irie - Keith Teare

I can do Lennon today - Keith Teare

"I don't believe in Beats, I just believe in streams..." - J.C. Bouvier

so who's on - Kevin Marks

Hey Tina, Happy Mother's Day. I'm going to be up there next week for my bday and want to have some friends come by the Ritz on Friday PM for a drink. (Not on the order of Scoble's benders, though.) Anyone I know from the area is welcome. Ritz bar 5:30 - Francine Hardaway

Cool. Say hi to Miko! - Robert Scoble

i love this cool starts ! - flyinthesoup

Steve with a classic GG welcome! - Tom Guarriello

what's josh's twitter? - Kevin Marks

@joshm - Kevin Marks

Tell Josh there's an error in the array on his whiteboard - Charlie Isaacs

+1 Charlie - Tom Guarriello

Hi everyone :) - Charlie Isaacs

Charlie: Don't worry, Klaatu will sneak in and solve it. - Alex de Soto

...like the Gillmor Gang - Tina Chase Gillmor

Hey Tina, I'm finally here while the show is live! This is exciting! - Jeff Grosse

whoa, the stream is embedded in my tweet - Kevin Marks

Hi Jeff Grosse - Tina Chase Gillmor

welcome - Tina Chase Gillmor

Thank you - Jeff Grosse

Tim Cook wants to say to the world: "iBeats Google." - Alex de Soto

+1 Alex - Charlie Isaacs

Beats would improve iTunes and iRadio to deliver curated music in the "Age of Context" and wearables. Shuffle on iWatch would suck. - Alex de Soto

Beats is a youth brand - Tom Guarriello

Doesn't FB do private (invite-only) converations this already? I regularly participate in a 4000 member private facebook group. - Murray Macdonald

I have a set - Francine Hardaway

Francine - I will be there! but a reminder will help ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor

I've got some, but they're not as good as the price would assume - Jeff Grosse

They are shit but they look pretty - Francine Hardaway

there are nicer headphones - Kevin Marks

as Scoble would say... it sends a signal - Tina Chase Gillmor

And they are widely available. - christina sponselli

Spotify beats Beats - Da

Popular with some pro athletes, too. - christina sponselli

Red is the new White! - Alex de Soto

My Bose are nicer - Francine Hardaway

Rumor is that Apple is going to crush the Beats product line and create Borscht - Charlie Isaacs

Def a fashion statement vs.a high quality audiophile collectible... - J.C. Bouvier

christina: they are getting paid to wear them and they get TONS of free ones. - Robert Scoble

Hey Josh, call your gang and endeavour your show please... - flyinthesoup

Mine early version broke, battery not replaceable, they said they would replace, but they never followed up, got to call them again. - Arnie Klaus

Robert, true but they wear them and kids follow suit. - christina sponselli

Francine: RedBull sells $2 billion of a crappy product using the same techniques. - Robert Scoble

Worth watching today: Jimmy Iovine's video interview with Mossberg from 2/13/2013: youtu.be/d2Fkj427wDE It's not about the headsets. - Alex de Soto

christina: right. It's celebrity tying. Beats does it better than anyone. - Robert Scoble

I agree Robert - Francine Hardaway

Bob Lefsetz... - J.C. Bouvier

Dre's video definitely makes it look like he thinks it's real - Tom Guarriello

I +LOVE+ Bob Lefsetz. - Robert Scoble

+100 Tom... - J.C. Bouvier

desperate Apple move since its cloud offerings suck - Da

Beats does NOT suck. - Robert Scoble

(THe streaming service) - Robert Scoble

tell that to HTC - Da

Haven't tried the streaming service - Francine Hardaway

Beats reminds me of the old IBM sarcastic slogans "You can buy smaller but you can't buy more expensive." Oh wait, maybe that was Bose. - Charlie Isaacs

Could they have future products and services which impressed Apple - Moe Glitz

Sennheiser FTW - Kevin Marks

RE: Lefsetz Robert, + 100. He can be hit or miss, but you gotta love him. - J.C. Bouvier

Dre video http://www.theverge.com/2014... - Tom Guarriello

I have Sennheiser ear buds. They are quite good - Francine Hardaway

show link on TC http://techcrunch.com/2014... - Tina Chase Gillmor

only the best for Francine - Tina Chase Gillmor

I vouch for X11i Klipsch ear buds. - Alex de Soto

Apple wants exclusive access to Iovine and Dr. Dre, as well as a platform and name upon which to build a better music streaming service. Beats is a faddy product right now, but with incredible margins. - Thomas Rector

nothing sounds very good if you're neil young 'cos your hearing is shot from standing in front of amps for 40 years - Kevin Marks

The Beats buy, if true, does set Tim Cook apart as CEO, this isn't a move I think SJ would have made...but how do they incorporate the brand into the Apple mothership? Beats by Apple? Or just a independent subsidiary? - J.C. Bouvier

https://twitter.com/charlie... - Charlie Isaacs

Wearables: headphones are wearables, perhaps more functions could be built into headphones - Charles Carrico

Over the next few years , Apple will have an iTunes Streaming Business. Think Spotify mixed with Netflix - Moe Glitz

OMG I can live without my iPad - Tina Chase Gillmor

Steve, once again you are thinking like a 65 year old man. Millennials drive this segment of the business, and sound quality is not the anchor it is to us. - Thomas Rector

I was curious if I would notice the difference on my Pono when I get it because I'm so old - Francine Hardaway

can't - Tina Chase Gillmor

meant can't - Tina Chase Gillmor

SJ wouldn't have needed to do this deal because he could do the media biz brinkmanship negotiation - Kevin Marks

I've knda given up on my iPad. I use my MacBook Air and my phone - Francine Hardaway

the phone has eaten the use case - Kevin Marks

phone too small for all that i want to do - Tina Chase Gillmor

Headphones as wearables are a good thought. We already wear them - Francine Hardaway

iphones are too small, yes - Kevin Marks

that will change - Kevin Marks

If you travel on a plane these days, iPad is completely the way to go. Laptop is too big - Jeff Grosse

I love the large phone form-factor for simple apps, and a 4K desktop monitor for coding and browsing. Laptop is an awkward middleground. - Murray Macdonald

nexus 7 - Kevin Marks

fancy - Tina Chase Gillmor

http://www.ipadkneesup.com/ - Kevin Marks

oh. the old on the plane fashionable context...come on - flyinthesoup

See lots of tablets in meetings w/ colleagues. - christina sponselli

I do use a tablet on the plane. But don't spend my life on planes - Francine Hardaway

Francine Hardaway: thankyou for noticing my comment - look at all the space inside an earphone for processors etc.. which won't fit into a watch - Charles Carrico

If and when I wear an iWatch, it would be cool to turn on iRadio with one touch and get a good context-sensitive playlist. That's what Beats Music will do. - Alex de Soto

On the plane, I've got everything I need with Evernote and Boxer on the iPad. I can actually be productive. (and listen to Spotify) - Jeff Grosse

but I can put the "classic" iPad in my handbag - Tina Chase Gillmor

and do - Tina Chase Gillmor

Fix it 3 years later... - Murray Macdonald

tablet is dead, long live the Galaxy Note 4 - Da

tablet is not dead - Tina Chase Gillmor

Tablets are for indoors and Smartphones are for on the go - Moe Glitz

Are tablet sales declining? - christina sponselli

ipad sales are relatively to phones - Kevin Marks

christina: iPad sales are declining - Charles Carrico

MBPr, iPad Mini, iPhone 5S and I use all three, but the first one I'd give up would be the iPad... - J.C. Bouvier

yes, right - Tina Chase Gillmor

Josh or Steve, do you have a link to this article? - J.C. Bouvier

Lock screens are insecure. Push notifications often show password reminders, etc... - Murray Macdonald

Oh, man, Josh is gonna be on GG a lot...push notifications! If he says the word, "track" Steve will adopt him! - Tom Guarriello

Murray: really? I have never seen a password notification come through. - Robert Scoble

devastated that Scoble doesn't care about each of my airport check-ins :( - Charlie Isaacs

i was just kidding - Charlie Isaacs

No. ask benedict apple stats evans how much @christina http://ben-evans.com/benedic... - flyinthesoup

I like Josh! Congrats on getting him on the show Steve and Tina! - Robert Scoble

+1 Tom - Francine Hardaway

this might be the post https://medium.com/musings... - Tina Chase Gillmor

+1 on Josh - Charlie Isaacs

Just downloaded Beats Music. Very cool service - Francine Hardaway

Apple Notifications can't be controlled by developers like android. Beacon apps can't remove notifications. - Murray Macdonald

And I love the push notifications on my Nexus 5 - Francine Hardaway

Steve has a cloud on his back ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor

and you can do alternative lockscreens - Kevin Marks

Robert Scoble: do you see the purchase of Beats as a chance to expand wearable processes into Headphones - more space for processors inside headphones - Charles Carrico

Steve is such a fan boy. - Murray Macdonald

Android has many advantages - Francine Hardaway

thats what they do with the cows at salesforce - flyinthesoup

Or toward Google Now - Francine Hardaway

Charles: hmm, having Beats associated with the new iWatch makes a LOT of sense! - Robert Scoble

That would be cool. Headphones and health apps - Francine Hardaway

Josh, android is way worse in tools and waay better in possibilities - flyinthesoup

PhoneGap/HTML5 lets you do both quickly. The cubedfm guys noted that Apple is moving to HTML5 apps with their wearables. - Murray Macdonald

Robert: yes I agree - I think music is not what its really about - headphone is a great wearable - Charles Carrico

facebook home is now "cover feed" - Kevin Marks

Bingo. Apple wants the iWatch to have a good streaming service, and not lose control to Spotify or Pandora. - Thomas Rector

which is not too bad - Kevin Marks

I saw something about health apps and headphones this week, Francine. Sounds fertile. - Tom Guarriello

though cover feed really messes up instagram pics - Kevin Marks

Seriously, if people are used to wearing HUGE headphones my guess is that Apple is going to shrink the audio electronics (see Moore's Law) and cram more bio-related and app-related functionality into the headphone and it will be a super-device - Charlie Isaacs

We need new wearables. These trackers suck - Francine Hardaway

Tom Guarriello: yes - so close to the brain and bloodstream - can pick up health signals - Charles Carrico

the 'headphones as health monitor' fake story from secret? - Kevin Marks

Was just thinking Charles about what you can pick up from the ears - Francine Hardaway

Facebook wants to be a modern portal built for Mobile - Moe Glitz

Yes, Charles, that's what I read. Brain wave reader. Slightly Clockwork Orange, but, hey... - Tom Guarriello

Didn't see that on Secret Kevin. Why fake? - Francine Hardaway

Beats headphones will have so many health connections built in that they'll be covered by Obamacare. - Thomas Rector

Zuckerberg is like Andy Grove. He's always looking over his shoulder to see who is coming to disrupt him - Francine Hardaway

I think this was the post from Josh at that your referred to Steve? https://medium.com/musings... - J.C. Bouvier

health monitor might be a "fake" - but think about these things so close to your head - there must be some signals that can be acquired - temperature, Perhaps heartbeat - Charles Carrico

The last half of this podcast is insightful.http://cubed.fm/2014... - Murray Macdonald

Francine Hardaway: what signals can be acquired from the ears? heartbeat? temperature??? - Charles Carrico

Regex provide wildcard Pattern Matching within text. - Murray Macdonald

Walk into a location with iBeacons and bingo...connect to cool playlist(s) via Beats Music depending on the context. At the beach, at the gym, etc. - Alex de Soto

Temperature for sure. Heartbeat perhaps - Francine Hardaway

the headphones might be a better way to pick up voice also - Charles Carrico

brainwave activity - Kevin Marks

has Robert quit drinking? - Tina Chase Gillmor

For sure - Francine Hardaway

Developers and Tech media may get a hard on with what Zuckerberg says. But normal folks will abandon the Facebook Mothership if Facebook changes their flavour. - Moe Glitz

Mostly have quit drinking - Robert Scoble

Latest YPulse Facebook data http://www.ypulse.com/data-ro... - Tom Guarriello

iMessage is a pain in the ass when you are on Android. Right. I use FB Messenger now - Francine Hardaway

Steve. Come to terms with Apple being #2. - Murray Macdonald

FB Messenger and Pages are both very helpful to me - Tom Guarriello

iMessage is a pain in the arse even when you have a mixture. I only get iMessages on my mac - Kevin Marks

Facebook has too much advertising - someone can come along and kick them aside - Charles Carrico

Charles TOTALLY disagree. - Robert Scoble

Just seen on Facebook that the GG is on. Notifications... :-( - Ian Waring

Robert: are you going to start the Facebook Killer - Charles Carrico

Charles: no. - Robert Scoble

I am quite satisfied with FB. It does everything I need. And everyone's there - Francine Hardaway

In my life it's an underlying directory - Francine Hardaway

I've started to see that many of what I thought were FB problems were really limitations of my user behavior. - Tom Guarriello

+francine there will be low power embedded bio devices so it won't matter if they are in the head region... they will communicate with a "master" device and those can be headphones or any other wearable - Charlie Isaacs

Same goes for iBeacons. Apple needs an app to set monitoring for each beacon before it is encountered. Android lets you detect beacons then decide what (if anything) to do. - Murray Macdonald

I am dissatisfied with FB - can't wait to leave and find something that doesn't kill me with large ads that look like private input - Charles Carrico

Right Tom. - Francine Hardaway

Charles, ever app is now monetizing with ads. At some point they have to make money - Francine Hardaway

My apple friends recently moved to hangouts to accommodate friends - Murray Macdonald

Francine: Google's ads are not intrusive and they make a lot of money - Charles Carrico

Apple have been lazy in pushing both iMessage and FaceTime out to Android - Moe Glitz

heard that verizon and at&t were sending user demographics and travel distances to stadium owners. Beacons just a variation on the same theme - Ian Waring

BTW, this is a great Gang episode - Tom Guarriello

Non geeks are all on iMessage because they don't know it's not texting - Francine Hardaway

except that it cocks up SMS - Kevin Marks

agree Tom ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor

great conversation here - Charlie Isaacs

True that, Tom G. This is one of the best GG I have heard in some time. It has content and smart discussion. - Thomas Rector

ios people use iMessage and then find it can't talk to android users - Kevin Marks

Last year a total of 2.9 million Chrome OS-powered computers were shipped, according to the tech consultancy Gartner. That was a fraction of the 280 million Windows-powered PC and the 12.5 million Mac OS computers delivered to retailers and customers. But by 2016, Gartner forecasts that computers running Google's ChromeOS will have leapfrogged Apple's hardware to take second place behind Microsoft's ecosystem. http://www.bbc.com/news... - Murray Macdonald

Correct, Kevin. - Francine Hardaway

and then Android users use Hangouts to try to send an SMS, and find it's emailed an invite to initiate a video call! - Ian Waring

Yep.. Ian, but that's APple's problem. Eventually they will need to talk to Android - Francine Hardaway

Being able to type text replies via iMessage on the MBPr is huge... - J.C. Bouvier

Josh brings a much needed "cute" quotient to GG...plus he's really smart and seems nice, too. - Tina Chase Gillmor

More like a hottie quotient - Francine Hardaway

hm FB Messenger asks for access to SMS on android but can't use it. Hangouts supports both - Kevin Marks

Can't we get some cute, hottie females on GG?? ;) (Sorry, Tina! You're off camera most times...) - Tom Guarriello

Tina, let's make ourselves visible:-) - Francine Hardaway

is Laura Fitton still the only woman we've had on? - Kevin Marks

Oh Josh, I feel so much like that. I love Twitter - Francine Hardaway

this is the only podcast for old men since "Cranky Geeks" folded - Charles Carrico

People said the same of ICQ. They seem to come and go. - Murray Macdonald

Where is the ChromeOS tablet? - Ian Waring

If Twitter disappeared it would be a major loss to me - Tom Guarriello

people have had chromeos running on android tablets - Kevin Marks

chrome on android is good though - Kevin Marks

Yea, Robert, X1 is nice but not gamechanger - Tom Guarriello

send off the internet balloons and satellites - Arnie Klaus

more women are needed everywhere, agreed - Tina Chase Gillmor

Technically yes, but wonder if Google will try to reign in the non Play Android tablets. - Ian Waring

I do like the X1 four at a time recording capability. - Tom Guarriello

Sports are the only thing I watch live - Murray Macdonald

YouTube could have bought the olympics - Kevin Marks

tom - we just got that and do like it v much - Tina Chase Gillmor

Chromebook tablets kinda exist. http://blog.laptopmag.com/lenovo-... - Murray Macdonald

@Kevin, what do you mean by "chromeos running on android" ? internally ? - flyinthesoup

it's his fault, not his problme - Kevin Marks

Everyone loves to text. But in regards to a Lifestyle Ticker being stuck on everyone's Lock Screen, people need a Twitter type of Messaging Service alongside their normal friends and family messages. But as most people don't understand Twitter, there is a huge opportunity for another Company to be your Lifestyle Ticker - Moe Glitz

Nice not to have to worry about DVR recording limitations, Tina. - Tom Guarriello

Dont like comcast on demand move to no fast forward - Dale Lature

we should only be worried if Google starts laying high speed cable everywhere; oh wait, never mind - Charlie Isaacs

Pointcast, Moe? - Francine Hardaway

so looking forward to that - Kevin Marks

I find myself watching YouTube more than Netflix - because I've gone through all of Netflix's classic content - and I'm not interested in TV sitcoms - Charles Carrico

I screwed up recording of my wife's "Call the Midwife" episode (tried to record 5 shows at the same time on X1). Thankfully, it was available On Demand. Too many good shows on Sunday! - Alex de Soto

Discourse.org looks neat... Jeff Attwood and co - Ian Waring

comcast also can't pause live tv like Dish can. I was surprised to see that! - Laura Norvig

I now imagine a boombox on a watch - Kevin Marks

Laura: really? It pauses on my DVR Comcast. - Robert Scoble

Which women, specifically, would you like to hear from on GG or similar (hint, hint)? - Tina Chase Gillmor

I think you can pause live on main unit, Laura - Tom Guarriello

huh, what am I doing wrong? will check it out. just switched to the evil xfinity triple play recently. not loving it. - Laura Norvig

Anyone seen: http://blog.level3.com/global-... - looks like 5 out of the 6 major cable/ISPs are stalling at peer points. Welcome to Comcast Time Warner! - Ian Waring

Tina: Kara Swisher, Sarah Lacy - Francine Hardaway

I'm a triple play customer Laura and it's as good as anything I've found - Tom Guarriello

Laura: make sure you have latest DVR from comcast - Robert Scoble

Jessica Lessin - Francine Hardaway

Tina: Liz Gannes, Marques Brownlee - christina sponselli

Marques is not a woman:-) - Francine Hardaway

Good Show - Thanks - Charles Carrico

Tx gang, have a nice weekend all... - J.C. Bouvier

Great show - Francine Hardaway

Excellent show. Happy Mother's Day! - Alex de Soto

+10 Gang - Tom Guarriello

Will check it out Francine - Moe Glitz