GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.ustream.tv/gillmor...
May 9, 2014
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Is Dre here?
- J.C. Bouvier
I'm playing the role of Dre today
- Keith Teare
Ha ha...nice.
- J.C. Bouvier
Better load up on your "mfs" Keith
- Tom Guarriello
You'll make a great Dr. Dre, Keith.
- Francine Hardaway
iri man
- Keith Teare
iris that is - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define...
- Keith Teare
Keith is multitalented for sure. didn't he recently debut his Elvis impression on GG?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
irie
- Keith Teare
I can do Lennon today
- Keith Teare
"I don't believe in Beats, I just believe in streams..."
- J.C. Bouvier
so who's on
- Kevin Marks
Hey Tina, Happy Mother's Day. I'm going to be up there next week for my bday and want to have some friends come by the Ritz on Friday PM for a drink. (Not on the order of Scoble's benders, though.) Anyone I know from the area is welcome. Ritz bar 5:30
- Francine Hardaway
Cool. Say hi to Miko!
- Robert Scoble
i love this cool starts !
- flyinthesoup
Steve with a classic GG welcome!
- Tom Guarriello
what's josh's twitter?
- Kevin Marks
@joshm
- Kevin Marks
Tell Josh there's an error in the array on his whiteboard
- Charlie Isaacs
+1 Charlie
- Tom Guarriello
Hi everyone :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie: Don't worry, Klaatu will sneak in and solve it.
- Alex de Soto
...like the Gillmor Gang
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hey Tina, I'm finally here while the show is live! This is exciting!
- Jeff Grosse
whoa, the stream is embedded in my tweet
- Kevin Marks
Hi Jeff Grosse
- Tina Chase Gillmor
welcome
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Thank you
- Jeff Grosse
Tim Cook wants to say to the world: "iBeats Google."
- Alex de Soto
+1 Alex
- Charlie Isaacs
Beats would improve iTunes and iRadio to deliver curated music in the "Age of Context" and wearables. Shuffle on iWatch would suck.
- Alex de Soto
Beats is a youth brand
- Tom Guarriello
Doesn't FB do private (invite-only) converations this already? I regularly participate in a 4000 member private facebook group.
- Murray Macdonald
I have a set
- Francine Hardaway
Francine - I will be there! but a reminder will help ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I've got some, but they're not as good as the price would assume
- Jeff Grosse
They are shit but they look pretty
- Francine Hardaway
there are nicer headphones
- Kevin Marks
as Scoble would say... it sends a signal
- Tina Chase Gillmor
And they are widely available.
- christina sponselli
Spotify beats Beats
- Da
Popular with some pro athletes, too.
- christina sponselli
Red is the new White!
- Alex de Soto
My Bose are nicer
- Francine Hardaway
Rumor is that Apple is going to crush the Beats product line and create Borscht
- Charlie Isaacs
Def a fashion statement vs.a high quality audiophile collectible...
- J.C. Bouvier
christina: they are getting paid to wear them and they get TONS of free ones.
- Robert Scoble
Hey Josh, call your gang and endeavour your show please...
- flyinthesoup
Mine early version broke, battery not replaceable, they said they would replace, but they never followed up, got to call them again.
- Arnie Klaus
Robert, true but they wear them and kids follow suit.
- christina sponselli
Francine: RedBull sells $2 billion of a crappy product using the same techniques.
- Robert Scoble
Worth watching today: Jimmy Iovine's video interview with Mossberg from 2/13/2013: youtu.be/d2Fkj427wDE It's not about the headsets.
- Alex de Soto
christina: right. It's celebrity tying. Beats does it better than anyone.
- Robert Scoble
I agree Robert
- Francine Hardaway
Bob Lefsetz...
- J.C. Bouvier
Dre's video definitely makes it look like he thinks it's real
- Tom Guarriello
I +LOVE+ Bob Lefsetz.
- Robert Scoble
+100 Tom...
- J.C. Bouvier
desperate Apple move since its cloud offerings suck
- Da
Beats does NOT suck.
- Robert Scoble
(THe streaming service)
- Robert Scoble
tell that to HTC
- Da
Haven't tried the streaming service
- Francine Hardaway
Beats reminds me of the old IBM sarcastic slogans "You can buy smaller but you can't buy more expensive." Oh wait, maybe that was Bose.
- Charlie Isaacs
Could they have future products and services which impressed Apple
- Moe Glitz
Sennheiser FTW
- Kevin Marks
RE: Lefsetz Robert, + 100. He can be hit or miss, but you gotta love him.
- J.C. Bouvier
Dre video http://www.theverge.com/2014...
- Tom Guarriello
I have Sennheiser ear buds. They are quite good
- Francine Hardaway
show link on TC http://techcrunch.com/2014...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
only the best for Francine
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I vouch for X11i Klipsch ear buds.
- Alex de Soto
Apple wants exclusive access to Iovine and Dr. Dre, as well as a platform and name upon which to build a better music streaming service. Beats is a faddy product right now, but with incredible margins.
- Thomas Rector
nothing sounds very good if you're neil young 'cos your hearing is shot from standing in front of amps for 40 years
- Kevin Marks
The Beats buy, if true, does set Tim Cook apart as CEO, this isn't a move I think SJ would have made...but how do they incorporate the brand into the Apple mothership? Beats by Apple? Or just a independent subsidiary?
- J.C. Bouvier
Wearables: headphones are wearables, perhaps more functions could be built into headphones
- Charles Carrico
Over the next few years , Apple will have an iTunes Streaming Business. Think Spotify mixed with Netflix
- Moe Glitz
OMG I can live without my iPad
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Steve, once again you are thinking like a 65 year old man. Millennials drive this segment of the business, and sound quality is not the anchor it is to us.
- Thomas Rector
I was curious if I would notice the difference on my Pono when I get it because I'm so old
- Francine Hardaway
can't
- Tina Chase Gillmor
meant can't
- Tina Chase Gillmor
SJ wouldn't have needed to do this deal because he could do the media biz brinkmanship negotiation
- Kevin Marks
I've knda given up on my iPad. I use my MacBook Air and my phone
- Francine Hardaway
the phone has eaten the use case
- Kevin Marks
phone too small for all that i want to do
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Headphones as wearables are a good thought. We already wear them
- Francine Hardaway
iphones are too small, yes
- Kevin Marks
that will change
- Kevin Marks
If you travel on a plane these days, iPad is completely the way to go. Laptop is too big
- Jeff Grosse
I love the large phone form-factor for simple apps, and a 4K desktop monitor for coding and browsing. Laptop is an awkward middleground.
- Murray Macdonald
nexus 7
- Kevin Marks
fancy
- Tina Chase Gillmor
oh. the old on the plane fashionable context...come on
- flyinthesoup
See lots of tablets in meetings w/ colleagues.
- christina sponselli
I do use a tablet on the plane. But don't spend my life on planes
- Francine Hardaway
Francine Hardaway: thankyou for noticing my comment - look at all the space inside an earphone for processors etc.. which won't fit into a watch
- Charles Carrico
If and when I wear an iWatch, it would be cool to turn on iRadio with one touch and get a good context-sensitive playlist. That's what Beats Music will do.
- Alex de Soto
On the plane, I've got everything I need with Evernote and Boxer on the iPad. I can actually be productive. (and listen to Spotify)
- Jeff Grosse
but I can put the "classic" iPad in my handbag
- Tina Chase Gillmor
and do
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Fix it 3 years later...
- Murray Macdonald
tablet is dead, long live the Galaxy Note 4
- Da
tablet is not dead
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Tablets are for indoors and Smartphones are for on the go
- Moe Glitz
Are tablet sales declining?
- christina sponselli
ipad sales are relatively to phones
- Kevin Marks
christina: iPad sales are declining
- Charles Carrico
MBPr, iPad Mini, iPhone 5S and I use all three, but the first one I'd give up would be the iPad...
- J.C. Bouvier
yes, right
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Josh or Steve, do you have a link to this article?
- J.C. Bouvier
Lock screens are insecure. Push notifications often show password reminders, etc...
- Murray Macdonald
Oh, man, Josh is gonna be on GG a lot...push notifications! If he says the word, "track" Steve will adopt him!
- Tom Guarriello
Murray: really? I have never seen a password notification come through.
- Robert Scoble
devastated that Scoble doesn't care about each of my airport check-ins :(
- Charlie Isaacs
i was just kidding
- Charlie Isaacs
No. ask benedict apple stats evans how much @christina http://ben-evans.com/benedic...
- flyinthesoup
I like Josh! Congrats on getting him on the show Steve and Tina!
- Robert Scoble
+1 Tom
- Francine Hardaway
this might be the post https://medium.com/musings...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
+1 on Josh
- Charlie Isaacs
Just downloaded Beats Music. Very cool service
- Francine Hardaway
Apple Notifications can't be controlled by developers like android. Beacon apps can't remove notifications.
- Murray Macdonald
And I love the push notifications on my Nexus 5
- Francine Hardaway
Steve has a cloud on his back ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
and you can do alternative lockscreens
- Kevin Marks
Robert Scoble: do you see the purchase of Beats as a chance to expand wearable processes into Headphones - more space for processors inside headphones
- Charles Carrico
Steve is such a fan boy.
- Murray Macdonald
Android has many advantages
- Francine Hardaway
thats what they do with the cows at salesforce
- flyinthesoup
Or toward Google Now
- Francine Hardaway
Charles: hmm, having Beats associated with the new iWatch makes a LOT of sense!
- Robert Scoble
That would be cool. Headphones and health apps
- Francine Hardaway
Josh, android is way worse in tools and waay better in possibilities
- flyinthesoup
PhoneGap/HTML5 lets you do both quickly. The cubedfm guys noted that Apple is moving to HTML5 apps with their wearables.
- Murray Macdonald
Robert: yes I agree - I think music is not what its really about - headphone is a great wearable
- Charles Carrico
facebook home is now "cover feed"
- Kevin Marks
Bingo. Apple wants the iWatch to have a good streaming service, and not lose control to Spotify or Pandora.
- Thomas Rector
which is not too bad
- Kevin Marks
I saw something about health apps and headphones this week, Francine. Sounds fertile.
- Tom Guarriello
though cover feed really messes up instagram pics
- Kevin Marks
Seriously, if people are used to wearing HUGE headphones my guess is that Apple is going to shrink the audio electronics (see Moore's Law) and cram more bio-related and app-related functionality into the headphone and it will be a super-device
- Charlie Isaacs
We need new wearables. These trackers suck
- Francine Hardaway
Tom Guarriello: yes - so close to the brain and bloodstream - can pick up health signals
- Charles Carrico
the 'headphones as health monitor' fake story from secret?
- Kevin Marks
Was just thinking Charles about what you can pick up from the ears
- Francine Hardaway
Facebook wants to be a modern portal built for Mobile
- Moe Glitz
Yes, Charles, that's what I read. Brain wave reader. Slightly Clockwork Orange, but, hey...
- Tom Guarriello
Didn't see that on Secret Kevin. Why fake?
- Francine Hardaway
Beats headphones will have so many health connections built in that they'll be covered by Obamacare.
- Thomas Rector
Zuckerberg is like Andy Grove. He's always looking over his shoulder to see who is coming to disrupt him
- Francine Hardaway
I think this was the post from Josh at that your referred to Steve? https://medium.com/musings...
- J.C. Bouvier
health monitor might be a "fake" - but think about these things so close to your head - there must be some signals that can be acquired - temperature, Perhaps heartbeat
- Charles Carrico
The last half of this podcast is insightful.http://cubed.fm/2014...
- Murray Macdonald
Francine Hardaway: what signals can be acquired from the ears? heartbeat? temperature???
- Charles Carrico
Regex provide wildcard Pattern Matching within text.
- Murray Macdonald
Walk into a location with iBeacons and bingo...connect to cool playlist(s) via Beats Music depending on the context. At the beach, at the gym, etc.
- Alex de Soto
Temperature for sure. Heartbeat perhaps
- Francine Hardaway
the headphones might be a better way to pick up voice also
- Charles Carrico
brainwave activity
- Kevin Marks
has Robert quit drinking?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
For sure
- Francine Hardaway
Developers and Tech media may get a hard on with what Zuckerberg says. But normal folks will abandon the Facebook Mothership if Facebook changes their flavour.
- Moe Glitz
Mostly have quit drinking
- Robert Scoble
Latest YPulse Facebook data http://www.ypulse.com/data-ro...
- Tom Guarriello
iMessage is a pain in the ass when you are on Android. Right. I use FB Messenger now
- Francine Hardaway
Steve. Come to terms with Apple being #2.
- Murray Macdonald
FB Messenger and Pages are both very helpful to me
- Tom Guarriello
iMessage is a pain in the arse even when you have a mixture. I only get iMessages on my mac
- Kevin Marks
Facebook has too much advertising - someone can come along and kick them aside
- Charles Carrico
Charles TOTALLY disagree.
- Robert Scoble
Just seen on Facebook that the GG is on. Notifications... :-(
- Ian Waring
Robert: are you going to start the Facebook Killer
- Charles Carrico
Charles: no.
- Robert Scoble
I am quite satisfied with FB. It does everything I need. And everyone's there
- Francine Hardaway
In my life it's an underlying directory
- Francine Hardaway
I've started to see that many of what I thought were FB problems were really limitations of my user behavior.
- Tom Guarriello
+francine there will be low power embedded bio devices so it won't matter if they are in the head region... they will communicate with a "master" device and those can be headphones or any other wearable
- Charlie Isaacs
Same goes for iBeacons. Apple needs an app to set monitoring for each beacon before it is encountered. Android lets you detect beacons then decide what (if anything) to do.
- Murray Macdonald
I am dissatisfied with FB - can't wait to leave and find something that doesn't kill me with large ads that look like private input
- Charles Carrico
Right Tom.
- Francine Hardaway
Charles, ever app is now monetizing with ads. At some point they have to make money
- Francine Hardaway
My apple friends recently moved to hangouts to accommodate friends
- Murray Macdonald
Francine: Google's ads are not intrusive and they make a lot of money
- Charles Carrico
Apple have been lazy in pushing both iMessage and FaceTime out to Android
- Moe Glitz
heard that verizon and at&t were sending user demographics and travel distances to stadium owners. Beacons just a variation on the same theme
- Ian Waring
BTW, this is a great Gang episode
- Tom Guarriello
Non geeks are all on iMessage because they don't know it's not texting
- Francine Hardaway
except that it cocks up SMS
- Kevin Marks
agree Tom ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
great conversation here
- Charlie Isaacs
True that, Tom G. This is one of the best GG I have heard in some time. It has content and smart discussion.
- Thomas Rector
ios people use iMessage and then find it can't talk to android users
- Kevin Marks
Last year a total of 2.9 million Chrome OS-powered computers were shipped, according to the tech consultancy Gartner. That was a fraction of the 280 million Windows-powered PC and the 12.5 million Mac OS computers delivered to retailers and customers. But by 2016, Gartner forecasts that computers running Google's ChromeOS will have leapfrogged Apple's hardware to take second place behind Microsoft's ecosystem. http://www.bbc.com/news...
- Murray Macdonald
Correct, Kevin.
- Francine Hardaway
and then Android users use Hangouts to try to send an SMS, and find it's emailed an invite to initiate a video call!
- Ian Waring
Yep.. Ian, but that's APple's problem. Eventually they will need to talk to Android
- Francine Hardaway
Being able to type text replies via iMessage on the MBPr is huge...
- J.C. Bouvier
Josh brings a much needed "cute" quotient to GG...plus he's really smart and seems nice, too.
- Tina Chase Gillmor
More like a hottie quotient
- Francine Hardaway
hm FB Messenger asks for access to SMS on android but can't use it. Hangouts supports both
- Kevin Marks
Can't we get some cute, hottie females on GG?? ;) (Sorry, Tina! You're off camera most times...)
- Tom Guarriello
Tina, let's make ourselves visible:-)
- Francine Hardaway
is Laura Fitton still the only woman we've had on?
- Kevin Marks
Oh Josh, I feel so much like that. I love Twitter
- Francine Hardaway
this is the only podcast for old men since "Cranky Geeks" folded
- Charles Carrico
People said the same of ICQ. They seem to come and go.
- Murray Macdonald
Where is the ChromeOS tablet?
- Ian Waring
If Twitter disappeared it would be a major loss to me
- Tom Guarriello
people have had chromeos running on android tablets
- Kevin Marks
chrome on android is good though
- Kevin Marks
Yea, Robert, X1 is nice but not gamechanger
- Tom Guarriello
send off the internet balloons and satellites
- Arnie Klaus
more women are needed everywhere, agreed
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Technically yes, but wonder if Google will try to reign in the non Play Android tablets.
- Ian Waring
I do like the X1 four at a time recording capability.
- Tom Guarriello
Sports are the only thing I watch live
- Murray Macdonald
YouTube could have bought the olympics
- Kevin Marks
tom - we just got that and do like it v much
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Chromebook tablets kinda exist. http://blog.laptopmag.com/lenovo-...
- Murray Macdonald
@Kevin, what do you mean by "chromeos running on android" ? internally ?
- flyinthesoup
it's his fault, not his problme
- Kevin Marks
Everyone loves to text. But in regards to a Lifestyle Ticker being stuck on everyone's Lock Screen, people need a Twitter type of Messaging Service alongside their normal friends and family messages. But as most people don't understand Twitter, there is a huge opportunity for another Company to be your Lifestyle Ticker
- Moe Glitz
Nice not to have to worry about DVR recording limitations, Tina.
- Tom Guarriello
Dont like comcast on demand move to no fast forward
- Dale Lature
we should only be worried if Google starts laying high speed cable everywhere; oh wait, never mind
- Charlie Isaacs
Pointcast, Moe?
- Francine Hardaway
so looking forward to that
- Kevin Marks
I find myself watching YouTube more than Netflix - because I've gone through all of Netflix's classic content - and I'm not interested in TV sitcoms
- Charles Carrico
I screwed up recording of my wife's "Call the Midwife" episode (tried to record 5 shows at the same time on X1). Thankfully, it was available On Demand. Too many good shows on Sunday!
- Alex de Soto
Discourse.org looks neat... Jeff Attwood and co
- Ian Waring
comcast also can't pause live tv like Dish can. I was surprised to see that!
- Laura Norvig
I now imagine a boombox on a watch
- Kevin Marks
Laura: really? It pauses on my DVR Comcast.
- Robert Scoble
Which women, specifically, would you like to hear from on GG or similar (hint, hint)?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I think you can pause live on main unit, Laura
- Tom Guarriello
huh, what am I doing wrong? will check it out. just switched to the evil xfinity triple play recently. not loving it.
- Laura Norvig
Anyone seen: http://blog.level3.com/global-... - looks like 5 out of the 6 major cable/ISPs are stalling at peer points. Welcome to Comcast Time Warner!
- Ian Waring
Tina: Kara Swisher, Sarah Lacy
- Francine Hardaway
I'm a triple play customer Laura and it's as good as anything I've found
- Tom Guarriello
Laura: make sure you have latest DVR from comcast
- Robert Scoble
Jessica Lessin
- Francine Hardaway
Tina: Liz Gannes, Marques Brownlee
- christina sponselli
Marques is not a woman:-)
- Francine Hardaway
Good Show - Thanks
- Charles Carrico
Tx gang, have a nice weekend all...
- J.C. Bouvier
Great show
- Francine Hardaway
Excellent show. Happy Mother's Day!
- Alex de Soto
+10 Gang
- Tom Guarriello
Will check it out Francine
- Moe Glitz
Good show. Thanks.
- christina sponselli
It's from 1997 Moe. Was just kidding
- Francine Hardaway
a kinder, gentler show ... less knockdown, drag out fights *cough* jason calacanis *cough* ... means more time for talking!
- Laura Norvig
can someone throw these links into the chat please?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Gina Bianchini
- Tom Guarriello
Pamela fox is a very smart person. https://twitter.com/pamelafox @pamelafox
- Murray Macdonald
Ok! Lol
- Moe Glitz
indiebox: http://indieboxproject.org/blog...
- Kevin Marks
Known: http://withknown.com/
- Kevin Marks
stream drop out?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
yes
- Francine Hardaway
GG has dropped in the UK
- Moe Glitz
ugh
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yep. Having dropouts for the last few minutes.
- Murray Macdonald
back
- Francine Hardaway
Yes. Its choppy and messed up
- Thomas Rector
geez
- Tina Chase Gillmor
In the UK, but only on chat. Will catch the video after 6pm tomorrow local time
- Ian Waring
looks OK here
- Kevin Marks
choppy for a minute here
- Tom Guarriello
robert is not taking me to Israel. big mistake . ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
@Keith, ok to tweet that Chatcenter.me/download - link out?
- J.C. Bouvier
Thanks everyone
- Murray Macdonald
try this scoble http://thepodcastersstudio.com/skypeau...
- Kevin Marks
Thanks!
- Robert Scoble