I didn't know that honesty and integrity had its own management style name :) - John: Thread Killer

In other words, living in reality. Imagine that, what a radical idea. It is a sad comment that gurus actually have to give this (which is basically common sense) a trendy name. And I liked this line, "If you find a place that practices it, do whatever it takes to work there." I am still looking for such a place. Anyone out there know such a place, and are they hiring? :) - Angel R. Rivera