Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PST participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
ivanandersson,
Nir Ben Yona,
Naor Mark,
Jeroen De Miranda,
Robert Scoble,
Tina Chase Gillmor,
sofarsoShawn,
Denise Howell,
Jerome Hughes,
clive boulton,
Aron Michalski,
dlature,
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Alex de Soto
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can you see me on skype? I got a phonecall
- Kevin Marks
I'm waiting for the SkypeCall. Hopefully my wifi holds up.
- Robert Scoble
Anyone hear from Gillmor yet? Tina oh Tina, where art thou?
- Robert Scoble
Hi everybody!
- Francine Hardaway
Hi Francine!
- Robert Scoble
Hi Francine.
- Aron Michalski
Where are you where the wifi won't hold up?
- Francine Hardaway
I'm sitting in the middle of USVP on Sand Hill Road.
- Robert Scoble
It looks like it's doing OK now. Twitter and FriendFeed are streaming in fine.
- Robert Scoble
Robert I'm going to an Apple store in Austin to get an iPad2, but not the downtown one
- Francine Hardaway
Hi Aronski, I guess you are not touring lately
- Francine Hardaway
It's the quiet season; I get back on the bird in April.
- Aron Michalski
Just got the call, so we' should be on now...
- Robert Scoble
Sweet! Doc is here...
- Francine Hardaway
it's spelled John Borthwick, but it's pronounced Throat WObbler Mangrove
- Kevin Marks
there's a lot of SKUs this time. 9 I count. 16, 32, 64 for Wifi. Same for 3G but x2 (GSM and CDMA). Plus they are still selling the old units..
- Jamie
Apps are definitely a deal breaker for me, personally. That said, we can't ignore these facts: 10 Reasons Why The Motorola Xoom Beats The iPad 2 http://bit.ly/gLfgpv
- Nir Ben Yona
Can you take a photo with the iPad 2??
- Ward Mundy
The Air is light enough to use as a portable cam
- Kevin Marks
said the connector was good for 1080p
- Jerome Hughes
bingo Doc.
- Aron Michalski
Yes, you can take a photo. But the camera is not all that good.
- Robert Scoble
I'm conflicted, but I want to get one anyway.
- Francine Hardaway
Even Hillary Clinton agrees
- Jim Posner
You can read about the iPad 2 camera in this post: http://bit.ly/dYpwvn
- Nir Ben Yona
narrowcasting=real name required.
- Aron Michalski
I wonder if Doc has any comments re Monitor Consulting based at Harvard that took Libyan money to burnish the image of Gaddafi. Clay Shirky has been caught up in this as well.
- Jim Posner
What's Windows? Old story, hardly news.
- Michael Krigsman
All my documents are in the cloud. This is irrelevant
- Francine Hardaway
Interesting article in Rolling Stone about the entertainers who took money from Gaddafi as well.
- Aron Michalski
Why would MS want to support iOS?
- Michael Krigsman
MS ship OneNote and Messenger on iOS
- Kevin Marks
not that I can remember my Windows Live ID to try it
- Kevin Marks
But today's MS doesn't compete on the bleeding edge
- Michael Krigsman
Took him 10 years to port Mac OS as Windows.
- Aron Michalski
Redmond fighting to restart developer interest in Sharepoint http://www.sharepointsaturday.org/
- clive boulton
The problem is not bleeding edge or not -- it's quality of design!
- Michael Krigsman
The design sensibilities of the Mac create ease of use, that's the draw for so many new Mac users.
- Michael Krigsman
mixing is a tactile experience; touch is a major improvement for Garage Band.
- Aron Michalski
The leak of Remond talent to Kirkland turning to a stream
- clive boulton
Robert, that VMware product you describe is fascinating!
- Michael Krigsman
the difference is that on the iPad you can create the feel of an instrument
- Kevin Marks
Steve, you are living in a future ivory tower that is far removed from the life of most of us ordinary users
- Michael Krigsman
The 5th Beatle can be the mixer, directing the sound into a cohesive view.
- Aron Michalski
GarageBand is awesome, but I really hope they'll have MIDI input somehow... otherwise, it doesn't make sense to play on the screen.
- Nir Ben Yona
you mean Midi output, Nir?
- Kevin Marks
MS was concerned about Linux going back to the 1997 timeframe
- Michael Krigsman
Kevin: sorta. Something that will help connecting a Midi Controller.
- Nir Ben Yona
In and out.
- Aron Michalski
Not just MS either. I feel less compelled to invest in full Adobe Creative Suites.
- Alex de Soto
conversation about iOS and iTunes begs the question ... what about the 'protesters' at the Apple event the other day ??
- studentforce
Canadian government cabinet ministers all have government issued iPads.
- Brian Sullivan
funny .... my wife was watching a Xoom commercial yesterday and said ... "take a look at the Motorola iPad" its like calling a tissue a "kleenex'
- studentforce
http://www.computerworld.com/s... I liked this article
- Kevin Marks
Hey! I have the 3GS still!!!
- Alex de Soto
2.5G here
- Jerome Hughes
I sold my 3G the day before the iPad2 announcement. Planning to buy a new one next week.
- Michael Krigsman
With all that money in the bank, what's keeping Apple from going in the cellphone provider business?
- Ward Mundy
Why waste money on ATT/Verizon 3G? I use my Android personal hotspot.
- Michael Krigsman
Rumors Win 8 - further ahead on Tablet than letting on http://bit.ly/hA1e7d
- clive boulton
Not sure iPad is really a text production platform though: http://damnyouautocorrect.com/6101...
- Kevin Marks
finally an interface the granola boxers of the 60's can throw some shapes with.
- Aron Michalski
Kevin: with a Bluetooth keyboard? Absolutely!
- Robert Scoble
I have trouble blogging on the iPad. But I don't use the Bluetooth keyboard
- Francine Hardaway
BMW had a L7
- Jerome Hughes
Windows L8 even sounds great.
- Ward Mundy
Different circles - the last 4 people whose machines I jumped on had IE6 :-p
- Denise Howell
not sure if I get Ditto yet.
- Jamie
Jamie: the UI needs a little bit more work to expose what's interesting there.
- Robert Scoble
ditto needs an iPhone and Facebook...
- Kevin Marks
Denise: I only talk to the tip of the spear. :-)
- Robert Scoble
I hope you fixed that for them, Denise
- Kevin Marks
The Xfinity apps from Comcast are pretty good.
- Alex de Soto
I have an iPhone and Facebook. What I need are friends :)
- Jamie
Kevin: there are lots of computers in conference rooms, lobbies, etc that aren't upgradeable by users and no one cares about them to upgrade them.
- Robert Scoble
It's becoming one channel, with multiple windows.
- Aron Michalski
Someone should caption you with your (er) hand up Robert: "Talk to the Tip!" Re fixing, yes, immediately.
- Denise Howell
Imagine; we've reached the point where we want less channels.
- Aron Michalski
My gogoinflight+iPad experience last week didn't work, the iPad choked on that connection. Also the hotel's later. Annoying; was glad I had the Air along too. (The good news is both fit comfortably in a purse.)
- Denise Howell
I know, Denise. I have both and take them both, too. But that's a problem
- Francine Hardaway
They are protecting the interests of the corporation they are part of.
- Aron Michalski
the chap gave me a channel list, and I had no idea which show is on which channel, as I use a DVR
- Kevin Marks
The network blocking/non-neutrality actions of the providers will be the big issue.
- Aron Michalski
Basic TV and Fat pipe for Google TV is what I have.
- clive boulton
I get 22 channels over_the_air.
- coldbrew
AT&T would give me free install only if I chose a TV package. I'll cancel it.
- Kevin Marks
Even the Time-Warner on demand has half of the primetime offerings, then you have to shift to a different provider on their internet connection to watch Fox/ABC on demand.
- Aron Michalski
make a good app and pay 30% and relinquish your direct relationship with the customer ..... any thoughts on this ??
- studentforce
The cable company bundling packages are non-sensical.
- coldbrew
espn3 is an exception for sports games....watched bowl games that I couldnt get with my limited basic
- dlature
It is signatory issues... Robert is right until the production structure of content is changed to incorporate ads/retail in (and hypervideo will do this) they will shift over to the new model... and like Apple, as they just set the precedent, they will take a piece of the revenue from integrated retail).
- davidlee
It's the value of intent over the value of "cache" there was a story earlier this week of a girl who sells 100,000 copies of her fiction through kindle without a publisher
- Stephen Pickering
Yes, she writes vampire crap for teens, apparently.
- coldbrew
The Last Mile is so important, and Comcast is my only choice
- Stephen Pickering
Coldbrew, yeah I didn't see what she writes, still its interesting
- Stephen Pickering
Pickering: I agree, just pointing it out for those that don't know.
- coldbrew
WiMAX last mile, what happened?
- clive boulton
How about fiber for the last mile?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?!!??!
- Stephen Pickering
ZipTV, love it
- Kevin Marks
cliveb: tech issues. Spectrum is still valuable.
- coldbrew
Superbowl parties, Oscar parties
- Kevin Marks
No Reservations
- Jim Posner
Comcast keeps sending me notices about DLing Bill Maher shows (like I don't know I'm DL ing them)>
- coldbrew
What? Bill Maher is on HBO. Huh?
- Stephen Pickering
Idol on HD; kinda like manchego Cheetos.
- Aron Michalski
Last mile spectrum issues need FCC solution (Fat Pipe, Fat Chance)
- clive boulton
Comcast needs HBO exactly like iOS needs Amazon and Google.
- Stephen Pickering
I found the 720p quality on AppleTV better than the HD on the DVR - less compressed looking
- Kevin Marks
AJE shows there is a market for serious news on devices. I hope startups move into this space.
- Jim Posner
Yes. But, they are getting DMCAs from HBO b/c im on the torrent (and so are ~300 other people).
- coldbrew
Ah, IC.
- Stephen Pickering
news consumption is always "bursty"
- Jim Posner
Apple's pricing is simply stunning. It's flabbergasting the market.
- coldbrew
JohnB echos Eric Ries #leanstartup learn from MVP (min value prod)
- clive boulton
lovin' the Chartbeat possibilities & Borthwick is right it is about complex television / film production structure.
- davidlee
coldbrew: Did you mean flummoxing the market?
- Alex de Soto
de Soto: Perhaps.
- coldbrew
This has always been about art. What's the point in having the hardware unless you're creating content of interest?
- Aron Michalski
I have to choose the ipad for the same reason I've chosen the custom machine up 'til this point.
- coldbrew
Robert's right
- Stephen Pickering
Robert: My thoughts EXACTLY. The Kinect is definitely a top-notch product. Thing is that Kinect is a Prime Sense development.
- Nir Ben Yona
I think they could build the company around Kinect
- Francine Hardaway
xPad x everything
- Stephen Pickering
A whole company around a UI component?
- coldbrew
I mean re-build the company by letting those old divisions die
- Francine Hardaway
And yes, a whole company around UI. That is what APple's doing
- Francine Hardaway
Or maybe it's UX. At bottom, that's what all companies are built around
- Francine Hardaway
The innovator's dilemma is alive and well.
- coldbrew
Give me a tool to create. Give me a tool that will push me beyond my current work. The pen, the typewriter, the computer. The will to write and the ability to say something has to be there; the tool can take you to the next level.
- Aron Michalski
Talked about Roku+Amazon Prime yet?
- Denise Howell
Enterprise can use Kinect to videoconference
- Francine Hardaway
my boys are playing minecraft, not xbox
- Kevin Marks
xBoxes in the break room of the enterprise
- Stephen Pickering
big xbox user myself..wish it had youtube and a browser
- Jim Posner
Could MS build a Kinect device to plug into an iPad that's connected to an HD monitor?
- Alex de Soto
I want Prezi as a real iPad app...
- Kevin Marks
Marks: I have to believe your kids are above average. Not to be a snob about it.
- coldbrew
wish apple tv ran iOS or had safari
- Jim Posner
sure, I'm scobleing... but MineCraft is a huge phenomenon - Google should fund an Android port
- Kevin Marks
the browser doesn't work on the TV
- Jamie
I thought the PS3 had a browser that worked pretty well.
- Jim Posner
i'm not even convinced apps will
- Jamie
I have a PS3 and browsing on it is just terrible Jim. control pad as an input device really isn't ideal
- Jamie
ffs, everyone send your good health vibes to Borthwick.
- coldbrew
really wish I could browse on my iPad and flick to the tv
- Jim Posner
The Apple iOS device platform is also very adaptable or extendable. Medical devices, sensors, etc. will easily hook up. I'm sure Android and MS will move in that direction.
- Alex de Soto
the Quick Bar
- Jamie
shows you trends and promoted tweets
- Jamie
new Twitter App on Android UX blows
- clive boulton
i agree Robert....hate it
- dlature
annoying ...really annoying
- davidlee
it's so annoying .. moved to echofon
- Naor Mark
Totally agree with Robert. A petition has been created to remove this http://www.petitionspot.com/petitio...
- Mark Krynsky
it is very instrusive.
- dlature
Tweetdeck for Android; good stuff.
- Aron Michalski
it will be gone. If we all hate it they will kill it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Seesmic for Android got a nice update this week
- Kevin Marks
Robert will pay for the rest of us.
- Aron Michalski
Borthwick reminds me of the trade federation from Dune :)
- coldbrew
sry man
- coldbrew
Hate that part of the new Twitter app too. They did add some interesting features though. You can turn "Ignore local trends" in the settings and turn off pinstripes, whatever that is.
- Alex de Soto
I was happily using the official Twitter client until this update and I'm sure that myself and others will now explore all the 3rd party alternatives again....not good for them.
- Mark Krynsky
Hillary says VoA should become more like AJE. Wonder if the US could produce a credible network.
- Jim Posner
I really like the new Echofon Pro.
- Nir Ben Yona
Hey! I just turned off pinstripes and local trends and the little black bar went away!
- Alex de Soto
The spice must flow.
- coldbrew
Time to check out Seesmic or Echofon (easier than petitions)
- clive boulton
Interesting Alex...I turned off local trends yesterday but it had no effect. Pinstripes I didn't try but will now.
- Mark Krynsky
Oh no! The little black bar didn't really go away. :( Sorry Mark
- Alex de Soto
local trends are an optional setting.
- Mark Krynsky
Do the deal sites have twitter feeds with substance?
- coldbrew
Mine doesn't have it, guess I haven't updated yet
- Stephen Pickering
pinstripes
- Aron Michalski
it doesn't remove it, just make the annoyance local :)
- Naor Mark
Yep! Sorry. I thought I'd give it a shot.
- Alex de Soto
No Alex...those settings do not kill the bar...
- Mark Krynsky
PER device.
- Aron Michalski
it makes the annoyance less local
- Kevin Marks
People that pay more than $55/ device for 3g are lost.
- coldbrew
Right Kevin
- Alex de Soto
right. and i agree with Nir, echofon looks nice...
- Naor Mark
I use Echofon on mac now
- Kevin Marks
Get better, Borthwick.!
- coldbrew
Mobile = combining life with technology, creativity with technology, a huge boost in productivity.
- Stephen Pickering
Pick it up at the Austin store..maybe I can help..walking distance from me Robert.
- Jim Posner
I checked our echofon for mac but it doesn't work well with Hebrew (important for me) i'm using YoruFukurou mainly
- Naor Mark
Scoble: If you talk about apps anymore, I'm coming to your house to shut you up :)
- coldbrew
Obviously, kidding
- coldbrew
apps Schmapps, we need web too. ditto needs a web app
- Kevin Marks
Kevin...and Android!
- Mark Krynsky
ditto
- Jamie
Marks: You are always the voice of reason here.
- coldbrew
YoruFukurou - tongue twister
- clive boulton
Thank you Doc, Thank you Kevin, John and Steve!
- Aron Michalski
Thanks, as always, you guys.
- coldbrew
(and Tina...)
- Aron Michalski
Almost inspired to buy iPad 2, but living in hope GoogleIO gifts a Tablet
- clive boulton
I'll get one but not when the store opens.
- Aron Michalski
Thanks Aron. We're both behind the scenes kind of guys, aren't we?
- Tina Chase Gillmor