GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT

here - Keith Teare

The big takeaway from I/O: Google has finally evolved as a [mobile] product company http://venturebeat.com/2014... - clive boulton

kinda dissapointed i dont think google really announced any type of formal support or framework for home automation - Chris Hale

Google is in pretty bad shape i would say - Keith Teare

? - Ian Waring

BTW - AT last Chat Center is in the App Store - https://itunes.apple.com/us... - Keith Teare

They punted Apple's allegations back re: fragmentation - Ian Waring

And the third place is actually a car - Ian Waring

Samsung worth more on eBay - Ian Waring

they announced seamless mobile: Android Auto, Android One, Android Chrome, L1 - clive boulton

Common UI between mobiles, tablets and desktop - where have I heard that before ? - Ian Waring

scoble. laughing at your baller comment. Ballin!!! - Chris Hale

Most interesting to me: Polymer, Material and Ray Kurzweil - Alex de Soto

+1 Polymer, Material and Ray Kurzweil - clive boulton

Looking at your watch = rude - Ian Waring

i think a headups display has its place. I am in the midst of talking with google tech support to swap me to the new 2gb version of glass. My glass arrived on friday and they updated it on Tuesday - Chris Hale

I didn't hear them talk about Glass or Plus - Francine Hardaway

did the show link ever appear on TechCrunch? - Tina Chase Gillmor

I didn't see it - Tina Chase Gillmor

Every one in the UK I show it to loves it. - Francine Hardaway

It just came here - Francine Hardaway

Right Keith - Francine Hardaway

Glass half-full: Goog half-way thru a deep corp pivot to mobile. - clive boulton

Scoble - Can i make a request? Can you maybe try and talk about the android auto experience and compare it to the carplay demo from Mercedes you saw. I think you might be the only one in a unique position to comment on thoughts of both platforms - Chris Hale

Chris: cool. - Robert Scoble

if you want share the show link, i think you need to share the ustream link . I don't see the TC one appearing. ustream.tv/gillmorgang - Tina Chase Gillmor

Do you guys think android one is Googles attempt to strong arm the cheap manufacturers away from cheap gingerbread phones - Chris Hale

Microsofts new X2 phone has stuffed X1 users - X1 software won't be updated. MS habit, not learnt - Ian Waring

im so reluctant to buy a car because I think the smartphone connectivity is going to change so much this year. - Tina Chase Gillmor

I am bummed out my 2014 Infiniti q50 runs a intel tablet in the dash that runs gingerbread and its embarrisingly slow - Chris Hale

Me too, Tina. I'm going to keep my current car, which has Ford Sync, which is not optimal, because I don't know if Apple or Google will have the best tech - Francine Hardaway

Silly. Should just sign company email, content with revocable certificate. If you leave, pull the cert, all company data goes invisible, personal content untouched. Who needs Knox? - Ian Waring

Android apps on Chrome? - Ian Waring

I wonder if the car companies know that the mobile integration is perhaps slowing sales at this point? - Tina Chase Gillmor

is it though? I am not sure anyone can quantify that for sure - Chris Hale

I'm sure they do, but they're legendarily slow to adopt - Francine Hardaway

i think they are slow for good reason though. Just like a tv , a car is a much longer term commitment device that requires long term support - Chris Hale

Ford Sync uses Gracenote, Francine. :) - Ann Greenberg

don't know. but when I go to test drive cars the sales people tell me that one of the biggest concerns people have is how the car integrates with their mobile device - Tina Chase Gillmor

Smartphone connectivity in cars surely bluetooth? - clive boulton

And QNX, as does Apple CarPlay - Ian Waring

i had to really think about this topic this week when i really complained to infiniti this week about how horrible the in car experience is on my car - Chris Hale

Ann I thought it was Microsoft - Francine Hardaway

I almost feel like a leasing a car next so I can wait for the catchup. but, they're always behind so... - Tina Chase Gillmor

Is the guy talking name Ben? - Chris Hale

Bluetooth http://dmerr.tumblr.com/post... - clive boulton

Benedict Evans www.ben-evans.com - Ian Waring

Chris - yes - Benedict Evans - At Andreessen Horowitz - Keith Teare

https://www.gracenote.com/case_st... (voice commands and album art and other - Ann Greenberg

Tina I always lease for that exact reason - Francine Hardaway

There is a Lexus hybrid we like but am baffled that they are not using touchscreen tech. Have a device like a mouse - Tina Chase Gillmor

But for that matter, QNX, Apple & Google use Gracenote, and MS integrated it into XBox, too - Ann Greenberg

is your lease almost up Francine? - Tina Chase Gillmor

Mouse in car srsly bad hci - clive boulton

Benedict Evans is wearing the B&W P7 headphones. - Nir Ben Yona

no. another year. - Francine Hardaway

But I have a Smustang convertible and they'll take it back any time - Francine Hardaway

ah, yeah, Benedict. I want to hear his opinion and Scobles opinion on how important do they think these numbers apple and google throw out about developer payouts really are for the platform . The reason i ask is I really think that measurement doesnt mean that much because monetization strategies for different mobile apps can be completely different - Chris Hale

The house is never finished being built in tech - Ann Greenberg

Amazon are stuck in the middle - Ian Waring

So engrossed in chat stream, forgot to start ustream - clive boulton

for instance, dropcam. I don't pay for the app but I pay for the dvr monthly service. They make money at this business but it isn't quantified in that big developer payout number each company likes to throw around - Chris Hale

LOL me too - Ann Greenberg

LOL / tip for Keith replace FriendFeed on mobile - clive boulton

i think app services is a good term - Chris Hale

Agree with Steve - even WhatsApp have platform specific Dev teams - Ian Waring

Unless something changes, I think Google will do better with cross-platform services than Apple. Kind of miss Kevin Marks' perspective today. ;-) - Alex de Soto

notifications might work well for enterprises - clive boulton

so with notifications being a very important part of the app ecosystema and user experience, what do you guys think of notifications on smart watches? - Chris Hale

I love Apple but which Apple app or service runs on Android? - Alex de Soto

Beats - Ian Waring

Right Ian! I forgot about that one. Any others? - Alex de Soto

Not getting a smart watch till Casio does a G-Shock - clive boulton

So scoble, do you think the watch notification handling system seem adequete in the demos you saw? - Chris Hale

Heard stories that there's a big beacon roll out in progress, but little supporting facts... - Ian Waring

Cross playtform doesn't mean one dev team. It means writing software that a mix of iOS and Android users can equally participate in. Definitely 2 dev teams and native code - Keith Teare

Beacons are not apple specific. Bluetooth smart is just a different bluetooth profile - Chris Hale

Does anyone thing that Apple has an advantage in terms of cross platform development because they make consumer privacy a priority? I think Apple has a very hard time with the cloud because of their culture, but, from the privacy perspective, perhaps an advantage. - Ann Greenberg

Cross platform = common back end. Which rules out CloudKit. Clients are specific - Ian Waring

*think - Ann Greenberg

+1 for Ian's comment - Chris Hale

Apple have done a great job with CloudKit - server secure wise. - Ian Waring

so far I think I'm going to like using the smart watch technology but I'll wait to see what Apple will bring to market - Tina Chase Gillmor

Chris Hale: ANdroid can NOT yet transmit Beacons. Only receive. Apple can do both. - Robert Scoble

But Apple specific - Ian Waring

pain in the neck to keep looking down at a phone or a watch. Better Google Glass would be awesome - Da

yeah, I know we talked about it. I think consuming beacons has more use cases at this point than transmitting - Chris Hale

Ian: All baseball stadiums have beacons. So does a lot of other stores, etc. - Robert Scoble

+1 Chris - Ian Waring

Tina: Hope Apple comes out with a round-faced iWatch. Liking the Moto 360 look. - Alex de Soto

Chris that's only true because most programmers haven't even gotten educated on what Beacons are and what they do. - Robert Scoble

Is Cortana what Siri was supposed to be http://goo.gl/lXLqhT - clive boulton

To Dan's comment, whoever creates the best virtual assistant, it will have to work across both Android and Apple. - Ann Greenberg

so in the idea of beacon transmitting, I think apple did something that really forces everyone to have to use beacons for user tracking - Chris Hale

Apple seem to have Passbook already working with Beacons in iOS 8 - Ian Waring

Google did have a session on "Bluetooth Low Energy." - Alex de Soto

I don't know how many of you paid attention to Apples announcement of IOS 8 having mac address spoofing of the wifi antenna while the phone is probing for networks - Chris Hale

Starbucks payment cards and Virgin Atlantic check in desks for boarding passes - Ian Waring

This makes it impossible to try and track someones movement via wifi - Chris Hale

also beacons aren't too prominent on Android, so not a lot of traction - Da

Cortana is Bing based, could work across both Android and Apple (if MS gives up on phone) - clive boulton

Alex: Bluetooth Low Energy has a TON in it only 1/3rd of which is Beacons. Only an hour? Hmmm. - Robert Scoble

93% - Ian Waring

True Robert. Very limited time spent on it. - Alex de Soto

haha, Benedict echoed my earlier comments - Chris Hale

Good metadata comes for a blend of machine and curation - Ann Greenberg

Redmond's Remarkable Reversal http://www.drdobbs.com/windows... - clive boulton

I'm trying to make a Cardboard Oculus - can't find lenses to buy - Ian Waring

Have the design templates pasted on cardboard ready - Ian Waring

Waze needs better voice command integrations - Ann Greenberg

Waze empties my battery - Ian Waring

I have a ticket from a stupid california highway patrolman that shows exactly why you shouldnt use your phone in your car - Chris Hale

I'd like a slot to prop up my iPhone in the car - Tina Chase Gillmor

Ouch - clive boulton

he was not friendly to me as i am a texan - Chris Hale

Gracenote is in over 50M cars, so yes, of course Steve... - Ann Greenberg

Ian: get a fucking car charger. $19 at an Apple store. Geesh. - Robert Scoble

Mustang console cup holder great for nexus - clive boulton

YES! - Tina Chase Gillmor

For a Nexus? - Ian Waring

it would be really nice to hear you guys theorize about a platform agnostic car - Chris Hale

People will hack the infosystems in cars, if car companies don't - Ann Greenberg

Ian FOR ALL CARS! AND FOR ALL CELL PHONES!!! - Robert Scoble

haha Keith just said it - Chris Hale

nexus phone - clive boulton

The USB on my wife's Honda Jazz (Fit) can't keep up - Ian Waring

Yes, it will happen Steve - Ann Greenberg

https://www.proclipusa.com/ - Tony Stanislawski

You know, i bet the manufacturers will build car options that you either choose android or IOS - Chris Hale

and its just a different dash kit vs another - Chris Hale

Why, oh why has Apple only made a deal with Mercedes? - Tina Chase Gillmor

because they are a little too full of themselves - Chris Hale

Mercedes says they are gonna do Google too. Apple is just eight months ahead. - Robert Scoble

Audi announced "Apple this year, Google next" this morning. - Robert Scoble

they probably want to illustrate they are a high end product integrated into another high end product - Chris Hale

Might as well buy a Mercedes. I'm all in with the rest of Apple. - Matt Terenzio

Nope, Chris. It was WHOLLY due to Apple being eight months ahead of Google. - Robert Scoble

I use a car charger with an ATT logo on it bought for $5 on eBay for my vzw moto x. it charges even when playing ingress - Da

There are entire conferences dedicated to in-auto infotainment systems. - Ann Greenberg

yeah - Chris Hale

Ann: not to mention about 1/4th of CES is cars. - Robert Scoble

Apple should connect with at least one American car brand - Tina Chase Gillmor

Wondering how blood sugar levels get measured... - Ian Waring

Steve: the notification freak - Tina Chase Gillmor

Non-invasive for a watch? - Ian Waring

Auto screens are "car grade," whatever that means. More durable, safer? Usually slower displays and chips. Some car companies will accept installation of either Car Play or Google's Android Auto. - Alex de Soto

I love infiniti and not such a big fan of audi. Audi is like google in many ways. They are brave and always ready to try new things. Problem is somethings they are half baked - Chris Hale

Robert, did you get that from Wonder Woman? Will it bounce bullets back at the bad guys? - Frank Paynter

Wearables have made me really tired of half baked tech - Francine Hardaway

i started thinking that smart watches will actually cause a really potentially positive movement in public cell phone etiquette - Chris Hale

Dan, dat is cold - Matt Terenzio

Frank: hah. Google gave them to everyone at IO yesterday. - Robert Scoble

Driveables is the next big category - Ann Greenberg

Notification to Siri / Now / Cortana designers --it's the Car stupid. - clive boulton

No Watch manufacturers announcing yet as per Benedicts podcast around xmas - Ian Waring

Samsung schwag? - Frank Paynter

But that is accepted now..Keith is correct - Tony Stanislawski

how about a new kind of mirror that can also display content? - Tina Chase Gillmor

I now no longer pull out and check my phone on dates - Chris Hale

Scary comment Chris - Ann Greenberg

http://techcrunch.com/2014... - Tony Stanislawski

oh no, my Pebble was just delivered to my office :) hi everyone, just landed from Europe - Charlie Isaacs

Hey keith. I think smart watches will do a few things that will be huge improvements in notifications . - Chris Hale

My Olds 88 mirror displayed temperature :) - clive boulton

Big problem for Google above - Tony Stanislawski

Steve loves to call on Scoble when he knows he's not listening ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor

I remember when they used to hand out condoms in the schwag bag at BlogHer. Better than a watch, I think... - Frank Paynter

For example, i see watches as having different vibrating patterns based on notification type - Chris Hale

8 out of 10 will get the iWatch - Alex de Soto

My wife just shelled out £85 for a new Swatch - Ian Waring

and or different led's or light pattern to indicate notification types - Chris Hale

Apple should give away the iWatch. Seriously. - Ann Greenberg

It's a fashion statement! - Ian Waring

Android G-Shock plz - clive boulton

I gave money to https://www.kickstarter.com/project... which is a bracelet that vibrates and glows different colors based on the notification type - Chris Hale

What if health insurance providers give away iWatches if you share your data with them? We do it already with auto insurance companies. - Jeff Grosse

My Nexus 5 color LED does that - Ian Waring

I'll have to look into that one Chris Hale - Tina Chase Gillmor

Can we get a toaster oven if we sign up for Google service? - Frank Paynter

iwatch is not just for display, but voice command is critical - Ann Greenberg

Don't know what blood sugar sensor is non-invasive. - Ian Waring

i think something that can easily catch your eye or attention is very valuable so you can make quick decisions on if you really should pay attention to it or can ignore it - Chris Hale

+1 Ann - clive boulton

Problem with smart watches is that the display is too small to read. At lease for me - Francine Hardaway

well it seems that google is trying to turn the watch into a decision making device - Chris Hale

@Francine What if they introduce Accessibility options on iWatch like they do on iOS? - Jeff Grosse

Do i want to acknowledge this notification or not - Chris Hale

Give them away.... - Ann Greenberg

my guess is that what's Apple will do, Airplay from the iWatch - Charlie Isaacs

That would be better. But how? Jeff - Francine Hardaway

iWatch will work as an accessibility device, for sure. - Ann Greenberg

Francine got u covered https://whatamanshouldwear.fil... - clive boulton

i think it will possibly have a real positive net benefit of saving battery life on your phone. You dont have to waste time on turning on the phone screen and unlocking device, etc - Chris Hale

I have a Pebble and I can't really see the notifications half the time - Francine Hardaway

Charlie! Are you back? - Tina Chase Gillmor

iOS can be configured to 3 finger tap. It's really an amazing feature for all ages and reasons on iOS. - Jeff Grosse

iWatch will probably maintain context, find a larger screen to display on, etc. - Charlie Isaacs

Tina, that embrace plus is a phenominal idea but at this point they have had a year to make it and i still dont have it yet - Chris Hale

Reason to buy an iWatch: You'll get YO notifications! - Alex de Soto

Chromecast is wonderful - Ian Waring

yes, just landed +Tina, cleared customs, and I didn't even get busted or anything :) - Charlie Isaacs

I think most of you are underestimating what Apple can do with an iwatch if it does it right! - Tony Stanislawski

i think as a proof of concept its important to show that wearables or jewelry could or should be fashionable - Chris Hale

Just what I wanted @alex - Francine Hardaway

Except Chromecast doesn't work on enterprise wifi - clive boulton

Corporate mandated wearables will be equipped with small plastique charges so your hand will blow off if you take personal notificationsduring business hours. - Frank Paynter

haha. Resistance is futile! - Chris Hale

ohmmm - Frank Paynter

Tina: I have a lot of G3 and GG to catch up on, been nonstop - Charlie Isaacs

I hope the iwatch doesnt pull nav info from apple maps - Da

Welcome back, Charlie. Congrats on easy customs. You go, Girl! ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor

Looks like you're stalking me again @Charlie - Jeff Grosse

"TV" is being disrupted by people to people creation & consumption. - Ann Greenberg

Chromecast can be tuned in from handset using high freq sound... So just use a Chromecast already deployed - Ian Waring

nobody has talked about aereo ruling - Chris Hale

thanks, yes, in touch with my feminine side Tina - Charlie Isaacs

My comment is directed at Aereo. Which is to say that anyone who wants to use copyrighted content needs to PAY. But that won't stop the disruption by people to people creation and consumpution. - Ann Greenberg

i know scoble you metioned it on facebook - Chris Hale

Charlie - I think only two G3's since you left? We did one yesterday but I haven't released it yet - Tina Chase Gillmor

Would Apple embed an NFC or some other chip on the iWatch to make purchases super easy? Hasn't Google cracked that one? - Alex de Soto

Tina - are yall going to bring Alexia back to GG? - Chris Hale

NFC is a banking industry dream (except in Asia) - Ian Waring

Chris - Yes, she is due up v soon - Tina Chase Gillmor

In a plane watching G3 + GG after downloading to phone #dream - clive boulton

Awesome - She was very sharp and i have developed a little bit of a nerd crush on her - Chris Hale

on the other hand +Benedict, Google might buy Boeing and create a Driverless Planes division equipped with Android tablets for inflight entertainment :) - Charlie Isaacs

We do world sports where other countries get invited - Ian Waring

My comment was directed at Aereo. Which is to say that anyone who wants to use copyrighted content needs to PAY. But that won't stop the disruption by people to people creation and consumption. AND vertical integration of streaming companies paying for original content. Thus my comments last week about Apple's purchase of Beats. - Ann Greenberg

Wow Clive. - Tina Chase Gillmor

Charlie same dream... - clive boulton

Can't find anywhere to download GG for offline consumption - Ian Waring

Has anyone actually tried to store more thank a 100 plus gigs of data on google drive - Chris Hale

not in one folder - clive boulton

Demon copiers! - Ian Waring

(I worked for Cliff) - Ian Waring

yeah, i have google drive and i have a little over 100gb and the drive app really starts to groan under the strain - Chris Hale

Ian - apparently Clive does it - Tina Chase Gillmor

BTW - someone should mention as an aside that google drive now allows you to encrypt the content of your google drive - Chris Hale

the model is the same: ad supported, attention economy. New stars will rise. - Ann Greenberg

I haven't read the details but it actually makes me feel a little better about google possibly not indexing or searching my data i upload - Chris Hale

i guess John Oliver is not going to be hosting the Crunchies again. Too big now, right? - Tina Chase Gillmor

Love to know how anyone downloads GG for offline use - Ian Waring

The issue is end-to-end development and distribution. - Ann Greenberg

wait steve, I think apple used to have a wwdc app - Chris Hale

Steve - that is such old news. The issue isn't virality, its controlling pipelines. Apple will create (fund) music content. Mark my words. - Ann Greenberg

on apple tv - Chris Hale

GG okay from Techcrunch, G3 is the gap - Ian Waring

Camlistore (Googlers) talked about thru why Google drive perf tops out 80-100gb - clive boulton

Dude, there is so much yall havent covered - Chris Hale

Chris: exactly. But I am tired. What should we cover quickly? - Robert Scoble

Will government need to break up the companies that control both means of production and means of display. guys, answer.... please - Ann Greenberg

Ian - tell Techcrunch you'd like to get access to G3 from their blog then ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor

Ann: won't happen unless they step on anti trust. - Robert Scoble

do you think that the smart watches you have seen provide enough value that you can see to keep you from habitualy pulling your phone out of your pocket? - Chris Hale

Salesforce (caveat: I work for Salesforce) announced an awesome developer pack for 6 different wearables, all open source. https://developer.salesforce.com/blogs... - Charlie Isaacs

That's the trajectory for Apple, and the definition of anti-trust, Robert... - Ann Greenberg

Germany wants to break up Google - clive boulton

Nobody brought up dropcam acquisition - Chris Hale

Do you think Nest will be the home automation centerpiece for google - Chris Hale

Netflix has proved the model. They are paying for content. If they (like Amazon) tie to devices, than that's precisely controlling the pipeline too tightly. - Ann Greenberg

Chris: people who care already have a Pebble, although lots say it doesn't work well. So that's a hole for Apple to exploit. - Robert Scoble

gotcha - Chris Hale

Pebble has 1,000 apps, too, although most people say most are lame. - Robert Scoble

Or Facebook acquiring Carbon design http://www.geekwire.com/2014... - clive boulton

yeah, i dont foresee watches being a great app platform - Chris Hale

Don't know why, but I think Apple's watch bands will be very cool and "alive." They should also keep it to 1 1/2" diagonal (square or round). - Alex de Soto

thank you for your insight as always Robert - Chris Hale

most people don't wear watches anymore - Da

and Keith T your commentary rocked today as usual. You and i think a lot alike - Chris Hale

Chris Hale - yes I do think that. I think they will make NEST the Google home brand and everything will hang off of it - Tina Chase Gillmor

This model of the regular cast plus the guest VC is great - Rob Underwood

See, Robert - you are proving my point about media integrations to hardware with your GoPro comments - Ann Greenberg

yeah, i am thinking that as well. Nest has a good reputation and wont leave as bitter a taste in everyones mouth as a google automated home would be - Chris Hale

Steve G. I can do IOS apps depending on what you are looking for - Chris Hale

I currently write cross platform native apps for IOS and android for Cisco - Chris Hale

Tina, you and I are friends on FB, if you guys have something you would like to chat about let me know. - Chris Hale

Chris - I will let Steve know that, thanks - Tina Chase Gillmor

Darn forgot to discuss MonkeyParking! - clive boulton

Name this show: Parallel Parking. (Android // Apple, wearables // automobiles // tv ) - clive boulton

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