Gillmor Gang recording live 1PM Pacific http:www.building43.com/realtime/
Susan Beebe,
Michael Pinto,
Jeroen De Miranda,
Rick Bucich,
Karoli,
Ben Hedrington,
Mike Doeff,
Cliff Gerrish,
Rob La Gesse,
Aron Michalski,
sofarsoShawn,
Ed Millard,
and
Alistair (alpinefolk)
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- Susan Beebe
On Gillmor Gang in 5 minutes
- Kevin Marks
Get ready for today's GillmorGang - http://building43.com/realtime
- Cliff Gerrish
feedbacccck!!! ** echo***
- Susan Beebe
Ah, my day just got better. Gillmor Gang is just firing up now.
- Karoli
GillmorGang w/ Paul Buchheit, Danny Sullivan, Kevin Marks and Scoble - http://building43.com/realtime
- Cliff Gerrish
When is Verizon going to give up CDMA for LTE?
- Cliff Gerrish
Danny is missing the point that because it is open and can compete it will force the US carriers to start offering features to compete across the carrier vendors
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
just caught a great screenshot of Steve at his command center. :)
- Karoli
Microsoft smartphone maker is HTC - Ballmer had it at CES- not sure of the model either
- Susan Beebe
Steve's bank of monitors is cool although he needs liker picture in picture or something. LOL
- Jim Turner
I think it was a Ballmer 3.0
- Cliff Gerrish
LOL :D It should say, "Bing, Bing, Bing" every time it starts up
- Susan Beebe
HTC HD2
- Rob La Gesse
Funny. We're using Nexus One on AT&T and it's anything but a brick. In fact, I'm not sure I've even noticed that 3G isn't available. I previously had another Android phone from Rogers that supported 3G on AT&T, and they are virtually identical in performance.
- Ward Mundy
There is lots of analysis saying the google phone web site is the true game changer and not the phone. Anyone agree?
- Jim Posner
Jim, I agree to an extent. Unbundling the phone/carrier is the game changer. no question.
- Karoli
Jim, I think that is the sleeper hit for the first quarter. Instead of the arm-twisting that Apple had to do with AT&T to get the network behavour they needed, Google is now going to make it so that the US carriers *have* to change or be left behind as niche phone vendors
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
It felt like a stockholder meeting.
- Jim Turner
That's because 'phones' are dead. The devices need to be much more than that now.
- Cliff Gerrish
sigh...now i have to choose between this and the President's presser. Perhaps the President could wait a few minutes? :)
- Karoli
Karoli, that's what DVRs are for.
- Cliff Gerrish
LOL
- Susan Beebe
I like arrington's take on the providers needing to step up now.
- Jim Turner
Mike Arrington just joined the GillmorGang (live) - http://building43.com/realtime
- Cliff Gerrish
Zwpwpwpwpwpol';dkfa;ldfk awesome!!
- Susan Beebe
LOL!!!! Voice recognition, FTW
- Karoli
Robert they dont work any tme whether geeks in town or not.
- Jim Turner
Untrained voice recognition has a lot more to do with the speaker than the phone.
- Ward Mundy
On the GillmorGang Tank! =)
- Micah
how can we use Google Voice on our iPhones?????
- Susan Beebe
Ward, I agree. Using a headset/mic would help accuracy.
- Karoli
I think it also helps if you spell out loud everything you want to say.
- Cliff Gerrish
Just did a Nexus One Nav demo with voice recognition on YouTube. Had no problems. http://bit.ly/5NSwgd
- Ward Mundy
Cliff, I spent 5 minutes training my Mac for MacSpeech, it's about 98% accurate. Amazing technology
- Karoli
Karoli, did you train your Mac - or did it train you?
- Cliff Gerrish
Anyone catch the Ballmer keynote last night...as a xbox 360 owner I found the natel announce interesting but not much else.
- Jim Posner
On Nexus One, try: Navigate to Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas. In 15 seconds, you're on your way.
- Ward Mundy
Cliff, i don't feel like it trained me...
- Karoli
Karoli, then it was very successful.
- Cliff Gerrish
Ballmers focus seemed retrospective rather than forward looking. Has MS become irrelevant in terms of tech leadership?
- Jim Posner
watching president's presser on CNN on my iphone while watching GG on my laptop. If I mistake Arrington for Obama, just shoot me.
- Karoli
Cloud based phones suck when there's no access to the Net. Try connecting in Cambria, CA.
- Alex de Soto
If you don't have a Google phone, check out Vlingo. I've got it on my Blackberry and I can do voice input wherever there is text input. It's also server-based
- Ted Gilchrist
Uhh. All cellphones are cloud based.
- Ward Mundy
"Strategic fear" is accurate label for Apple - Arrington nailed it
- Susan Beebe
Apple's too proprietary / closed, could cause them to paint themselves into a corner fast
- Susan Beebe
Aren't web apps on the iPhone completely open?
- Cliff Gerrish
Google knows how to leverage and guide open source projects well... smart code & resource management
- Susan Beebe
Cliff the apps may be open, but the holy Apple App Store is NOT open; highly biased
- Susan Beebe
Apple is a consumer hardware company that invested heavily in the OS to help drive the consumer experience - that's a lot different than the Microsoft and Google focus. They all approach consumers from different starting perspectives.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
As a first generation phone the Nexus One is as equally impressive as the first gen iPhone.
- Jim Posner
Danny's an Apple fanboi!!! :P
- Susan Beebe
Nobody's buying an iPhone because of an app-by-app comparison like that.
- Ken Sheppardson
Keep that pic - it's funny watching Arrington get all twitchy!! LOL :D
- Susan Beebe
that photo of scoble cracks me up.
- Karoli
People are buying iPhone's because it's the default choice at this point.
- Ken Sheppardson
The question now is "Why should I buy phone X instead of an iPhone?"
- Ken Sheppardson
In the UK the iPhone has banking apps. Property apps. Apps to measure my energy consumption in the home
- Jamie
its gone way beyond Twitter and Facebook
- Jamie
TMobile is an excellent data carrier but yes, if you live in the boonies you may have issues
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
The days of coverage being local are long past. To be competitive, coverage needs to be there, coordinated across regions.
- Karoli
Exactly why it's good that a lot of the apps on the iPhone can be used without the cloud.
- Alex de Soto
M$ was very disappointing... yawn
- Susan Beebe
every time i've had to contact tmobile for plan changes or questions the folks have been friendly and able to answer/fix the problem. the phone folks are a lot better then the folks in the stores
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Robert is there 'cause everybody else is there. It's like being a Deadhead.
- Ken Sheppardson
Robert's at CES because, "There's a lot of parties!" LOL :D
- Susan Beebe
HP placing Bing as default search engine is a BAD move for HP... bye bye
- Susan Beebe
Bing has an iPhone app *yawn*. It is surprising to see Bing doesn't render on mobiles
- Susan Beebe
Paul was ranting a bunch this week on M$ - funny stuff
- Susan Beebe
m.bing.com renders fine on my phone
- Jamie
google docs rocks
- Tim Jones
Google docs is amazing... collaboration is simply fantastic. love it
- Susan Beebe
m.bing.com works on Droid, but bing.com doesn't suggest it; flickr.com is smarter
- Kevin Marks
Jeffrey Hayzlett uses Google docs too :) Jeff is a very smart cookie, transforming Kodak
- Susan Beebe
bing.com redirects me to m.bing.com on the iphone
- Jamie
facebook ads are amazingly effective and well targeted
- Susan Beebe
very interesting discussion; very insightful remarks especially in the discussion about Apple vs. Google
- Jeroen De Miranda
the interesting thing is that with Quattro Wireless, Apple can build in an ad network to their mobile stack to keep developers on the platform
- Jamie
and use it as an alternative means of monetisation.
- Jamie
targeting? apple ID info.
- Jamie
the mono folks have been trying to evangelize the .net/CLR tech and have been berated constantly by Microsoft
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Apple's mobile me is a total failure on Droid too
- Kevin Marks
Microsoft is throwing a lot of money at getting Silverlight to stick, but nothing has stuck yet. They have to pay off everyone to get Silverlight in. Once the money stops, Silverlight disappears.
- Matt M (inactive)
mobile me uses soo many safari-specific html items it reminds me of how some MS products are tied to IE
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Kevin - haha not surprised! ;o)
- Susan Beebe
I think in a year we'll have to look back at 2009 as the year Palm died its final death... sigh....
- Ken Sheppardson
Netflix watch instantly works great -- (silverlight)
- Cliff Gerrish
completely agree ken
- Jamie
Droid-Nexus One was the one-two punch that finally sent them to the mat.
- Ken Sheppardson
I think part of it was self inflicted
- Jamie
Interesting that the xbox and mobile teams have be joined at msft.
- Cliff Gerrish
todays web os announcements were completely underwhelming
- Jamie
Oh, ALL of it was self inflicted, Jamie... in some sense ;-)
- Ken Sheppardson
XBox is a strong piece of technology - the only thread M$ has left to hang onto
- Susan Beebe
Cliff, I think Netflix is the only big success story I've seen for Silverlight.
- Matt M (inactive)
Zune? No mention of Zune when discussing Windows mobile stuff?
- Ken Sheppardson
maybe Microsoft can buy Palm and bring their web skills to use
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Matt, how about the olympics?
- Cliff Gerrish
"But after the conclusion of the [olympic] games, NBC went back to using Flash. Another setback for Microsoft came when Major League Baseball Advanced Media, the group that streams baseball games over the Web, decided to drop Silverlight."
- Matt M (inactive)
bear: I think Palm's taken on too much ex-Apple persona to be a Microsoft target. :-)
- Ken Sheppardson
Apps are the KEY game changer in the mobile market. Of course decent signal & data are a must too!
- Susan Beebe
Why doesn't Twitter do a camera?
- Ken Sheppardson
Does the Nexus One have push technology?
- Karoli
Ken - ah, that's a shame
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
Susan, I completely agree. Apps will drive phone decisions, etc.
- Karoli
Yeah, and I completely disagree. I think early adopters overestimate the extent to which app selection matters.
- Ken Sheppardson
Ease of use, carrier choice, coverage... all trump number of apps.
- Ken Sheppardson
Thanks guys :)
- Susan Beebe
Ken, carriers need to become seamless. I choose my carrier based on carrier, not based on handset.
- Karoli
Bye Steve, thanks for a great show.
- Karoli
Which do/did you chose first, Karoli: carrier or handset?
- Ken Sheppardson
it's always been handset choice for me - but then again I change phones in 2-3 year cycles so i'm never locked into a contract when I decide to move.
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
I think the typical smartphone decision process these days goes (1) Do I object to iPhone for some philosophical reason or do I so hate AT&T so as to not buy one? (2) if so, which carrier am I on now, (3) what's the best phone on that carrier.
- Ken Sheppardson
that was a 2009 era decision tree - I think the availability of android phones on all of the carriers will now change that for 2010. (or at least I hope it will)
- bear (aka Mike Taylor)
with android, there are choices. alot of people like a keyboard
- Tim Jones
There'll be a point where mechancial keyboards are completely replaced with virtual keyboards. (the physical keyboard becomes an object of nostalgia)
- Cliff Gerrish