GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT

oh geez, Scoble flew in from Australia yesterday...or at least, I hope he did. ;-) wonder what kind of shape he's in or if I'll have to wake him up?!?! - Tina Chase Gillmor

ready when you are - Keith Teare

I'm in good shape! - Robert Scoble

Skype is refusing to launch. yay - Kevin Marks

Robert - Excellent!!! - Tina Chase Gillmor

ok Kevin, keep trying with a reboot. we'll bring you inwhen you get up - Tina Chase Gillmor

Kevin: get the new version after the reboot. If it will let you. :-) - Robert Scoble

Whohoo! - J.C. Bouvier

skype running now - Kevin Marks

and there was much rejoicing... - Murray Macdonald

It's fun to listen live, then listen again next week via the podcast. Let the ideas soak in. - Christian Burns

@Robert... did you switch to the newest smugmug platform? - Matthew Voshell

is john taschek back? (never being boring enterprise pov) - clive boulton

Ok we shot down an audio problem with Doc and now we are ok - Tina Chase Gillmor

@Tina... when is the youtube live move? :/ - Matthew Voshell

Excited for Doc - Christian Burns

Matthew: yes. But I gotta put up some new stuff now. - Robert Scoble

Doc good to - clive boulton

The new smugmug page editor is cool. - Murray Macdonald

@Robert: So i used it for a week... i hated it; they ust put a skin... the backend is the same... and Org'd makes no sense.... sadly i moved to photoshelter... and it's AMAZING! - Matthew Voshell

for those interesting... http://www.wooliffotog.com I stood that up and running with only like 8 hours work... - Matthew Voshell

Keith kickin back - Christian Burns

Kangaroo balls! (do show) - clive boulton

Has anyone purchased a misfit shine cept me? They are in Apple stores now - Matthew Voshell

Hi Doc! - Tom Guarriello

Robert, re: Nokia 42MP phone - Great, so you take like what, 4 pics and your phone is full ya? - J.C. Bouvier

@Murray... yes on the surface is very useful.. but to actually run a biz and do real customization.. its the same as it was before... and org of how to edit and change things makes no sense to me - Matthew Voshell

Yeah, I posted that video to FB, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch... - Tom Guarriello

just got a taco handed to me - Kevin Marks

@ JC great point - Matthew Voshell

I would rather have a 2 day battery - Christian Burns

do people who have an over sized phone the same people that buy corvettes?? making up for something? - Matthew Voshell

I like the bigger screens for my fat fingers... - Murray Macdonald

fat fingers, presbyopia, lots of reasons - Kevin Marks

iPhone feels too small for me - Kevin Marks

iPhone looks dated - clive boulton

If you want a good photo.. that's what DSLR's are for... - Matthew Voshell

Moto X 4.7 screen is not tiny, 4.3's are tiny - Da

I'm ready for a bigger screen. I'm using an iPhone4 - Tina Chase Gillmor

Check out this cool camera comparison tool. http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp... - Murray Macdonald

ditto, iPhone is tired - Da

Hardware isnt software... hard to stay even - Matthew Voshell

@Keith... i installed beta 1 and battery was awful... what are you getting on beta 5? - Matthew Voshell

My Moto X vs. Samsung camera shootout: https://plus.google.com/+Scoble... - Robert Scoble

Everyone loves and defends the phone they have. - Murray Macdonald

Nokia's though are the best camera phones - Da

I've never had an android phone... but the moto X isn't extremely enticing..... - Matthew Voshell

doc's screen is full of color today. i love it! - Tina Chase Gillmor

@Robert... Do you use the google music service vs itunes? how is it integrated into the moto X? - Matthew Voshell

I'd love to try the motoX. I want a phone that's always listening. Hands free operation. - Murray Macdonald

beta 5 battery is very good - Keith Teare

no issues - Keith Teare

JC = Apple Fan Boy - but iOS 7 has a lot of buzz and it's beta software; and while I'm not one to drink Phil Schiller's Kool-Aid, the new MacPro looks pretty 'effin hip. - J.C. Bouvier

Matthew: I only use Spotify - Robert Scoble

@Robert... touche sir touche - Matthew Voshell

The watches are coming. Everyone is making one... - Murray Macdonald

the watch that watches you - Christian Burns

Google Glass is most exciting; holding non-contextual gadgets in the hand is tired - Da

@Robert... what are you seeing in ref to google glass integration/interaction with Moto X? - Matthew Voshell

Someone needs to mash together all the times robert has plugged his book - Matthew Voshell

google music is good, and nice with ChromeCast - Kevin Marks

Phones are like Game of Thrones feudalism...Bruce Schneier video at Google nails it http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Tom Guarriello

@Kevin... So you can throw google music to ChromeCast.... interesting... is it easy to switch songs? - Matthew Voshell

Cheers @Tina! - J.C. Bouvier

I don't believe the glass eye-tracking is that accurate. It's more of a blink detector isn't it? - Murray Macdonald

well, I am sober.. but not by choice - Tina Chase Gillmor

Effort to stop 'Apple picking' now extends to London http://www.nbcnews.com/technol... - clive boulton

maybe later - Tina Chase Gillmor

Murray: no. It's a 16x16 infrared sensor. It watches your pupil and can tell where you are looking. Maybe not that granularly, but pretty well overall. - Robert Scoble

@Steve... YES! so many times i wished products would stop sending emails and just use push - Matthew Voshell

almost too easy Voshell, it would be nice if it acted more like a jukebox rather than interrupting playing song - Kevin Marks

Thanks Robert. That's new info. - Murray Macdonald

getting poor audio quality from Steve - just me? - Kevin Marks

Keith, what was the iOS app you were showing earlier? - J.C. Bouvier

Perhaps there needs to be a smart phone manufacturer and OS that doesn't follow you around but gives you smart phone like features. I could see an eco-system built around that esp. given what's happening with the NSA and the discussions around that. The snapchat phone.. - Michael Roberts

@kevin... yea that's the feeling I had... almost like they need to build something like a remote app or some kind of control - Matthew Voshell

ActiveNotifications brings Moto X’s Active Display lockscreen to Android 4.3 devices http://phandroid.com/2013... - Da

currently we are serving social media - Christian Burns

Notifications are sticky glue. They keep you locked to a platform. Cross-platform notifications would be amazing... Notifications need to be open, but never will be. - Murray Macdonald

Da: yes, but you wil have a HUGE battery hit. Only Moto X has a processor subsystem that doesn't use much power. - Robert Scoble

Android 4.3 notifications now coming thru faster than app contents - clive boulton

re: Push Notifications on iOS... my only gripe is that not all of them sync... i clear them on iPad but they are still on my iPhone :/ - Matthew Voshell

Matthew: good point! - Robert Scoble

So motoX has a sub-processor to listen for activation? Cool. - Murray Macdonald

Same thing with the podcasts app.. it syncs what im subscribed too but not what i've listened too... seems like the smart thing to leverage icloud for? Amazon instant video i switch b/t roku, ipad, iphone is SEAMLESS - Matthew Voshell

Ha ha. - J.C. Bouvier

what battery problem? I'll just slap on a Galaxy Nexus 5900mAh Extended Battery - Da

Bezos/WaPo? - J.C. Bouvier

it wasn't an app - Keith Teare

J. C. good one! We'll try to come to that. - Robert Scoble

it was the notification center in iOS 7 - Keith Teare

President is getting involved.. that's keeping it alive for sure http://www.washingtonpost.com/politic... - Matthew Voshell

KT: tx, didn't have the cajones to install it...Apple warnings that I couldn't back flash scared me off... - J.C. Bouvier

@Tina... Bezos buying Washington Post? No reaction? - Matthew Voshell

Da: I got an extended Galaxy Nexus battery but it didnt fit my Verizon Galaxy Nexus - Christian Burns

@JC ha... just beat me - Matthew Voshell

We will come to Bezos. - Robert Scoble

;) MV. - J.C. Bouvier

Imagine how it feels being a foreigner with no US citizen rights. - Murray Macdonald

Oversight of the Gov is the House of Representatives, which is broken. - Christian Burns

Somebody this week called this era "the end of pre-history" since everything will be recorded as history from now on - Tom Guarriello

Self-driving cars need an opt-in law. - Murray Macdonald

what the hell... i posted a show announcement on Facebook and its gone.... what happened - Tina Chase Gillmor

In London, the bins track you: http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st... - Kevin Marks

M Arrington brought up early on the issue of storing your behavior for later accusations. - Arnie Klaus

I think there is a also generational point. Many young people are happy to share, but not so much older people who have those memories. - Michael Roberts

Those cultural memes (cards v. cameras) go deep, Keith. - Tom Guarriello

Tina: I still see the announcement on Facebook. - Robert Scoble

Sqrrl and Koverse building on top of NSA's Apache Accumulo. Irony for private analytics. - clive boulton

We are all carrying surveillance cameras. That's the reality. - Tom Guarriello

so true Tom - Tina Chase Gillmor

privacy is pretty much dead, surveillance will happen. The key is transparent oversight of surveillance, more democracy. Make penalty severe for abusing surveillance. - Da

more cameras versus less depends on who has those cameras. - Michael Roberts

Robert: these are toll bridges for trucks, not speeding cams - Ludwig Ederle

What about people without kids...valid arguments should never be made using kids at the reason it just does not hold water - Tony Stanislawski

Fear is that any one rouge operative could use the tool to leverage anyone else. Anyone watch Person of Interest? - Christian Burns

Bridge over Harlem River in NYC no longer has toll takers. It's not just EZ Pass but if you don't have one, the booth takes picture of your license plate and sends you a bill in the mail. - Tom Guarriello

Tony: You are someone's child. It holds water... - Murray Macdonald

Yeah, Christian, but those rouge operatives are sexy... - Tom Guarriello

Not really I am an adult - Tony Stanislawski

tom... same with the Golden Gate Bridge - Tina Chase Gillmor

European vs US privacy policy. I don't see how FB / Goog etc can manage in one product experience - clive boulton

Good point, Robert re good guy-bad guy problem. It's a little like white/black hat SEO, which Google definitely understands! - Amyloo

Consumers need phones that recompile themselves from open source. - Murray Macdonald

Police tracking license plates, uses fed money and agrees to share data with the feds http://www.theverge.com/2013... - Christian Burns

Absolutely, Doc. We're at the plate shift. - Tom Guarriello

so FirefoxOS, Murray? - Kevin Marks

Washington Post - christina sponselli

Either that or recompile Android. Lots of people are making Android ROMs - Murray Macdonald

@Tina, once that technology was out there, everybody will eliminate people in those roles. Thus, more data collection. - Tom Guarriello

I would want my children to enjoy freedom with their devices - Christian Burns

Politicians are going to think twice before attacking Amazon. - Murray Macdonald

im a little worried about what types of info is being gathered. how can it be used later. what about if the info falls into another government hands? - Tina Chase Gillmor

Snowden went with the Guardian, and not WaPo, since WaPo wanted more control of info Snowden wanted to release - Da

"another government" can mean both a "partner" government, or a future government. The same argument also applies to future leaders/employees of tech companies gathering our usage data. - Sue D. Nym

Keith is right on - Christian Burns

You ARE another government. As a Canadian I have no US civil rights and a foreign government has access to my info. I'm a foreigner with no rights. I don't really care, but some foreigners will. - Murray Macdonald

gov should serve us, - Christian Burns

we are the govt - Da

as ideal as i am.. there are they way things SHOULD be and there are the way things ARE - Matthew Voshell

Fed gov works hand in hand with RNC and DNC, no change where it counts - Christian Burns

I'm more interested in how Bezos might innovate on the digital publishing front; is he capable of creating new value from journalism through technology. - J.C. Bouvier

Is anyone else watching on ustream gone to audio only? - Matthew Voshell

I have ustrean audio oand video - Christian Burns

nevermind - Matthew Voshell

oh, well if we're getting free ice cream,im all for it - Tina Chase Gillmor

lol @Tina! That's all we care about! - Tom Guarriello

@Robert... but you granted it permission... people are worried of it doing it on its own.. not everyone is comfotable with it - Matthew Voshell

show name: Free Ice Cream - Murray Macdonald

Robert can't wait to get plugged into the Matrix :-) - Ankush Narula

If we the people would figure out what we agree on, and form coalitions on that, we could get gov back onder control - Christian Burns

it's so important to get info tech to more and more people, get more people involved in governance. The cheaper/more accessible the tech, the more people involved - Da

Robert = sheldon - Matthew Voshell

Scoble anonymous march app (duck duck go) - clive boulton

Divide and conquer has worked well. - Christian Burns

+1 @Christian and @Da - Ankush Narula

I already have that, it's called a train - Kevin Marks

Anybody else notice how much Doc looks like a mature Vince Gilligan? - Tom Guarriello

yes, and the worked out part might not include privacy.. the worst case would be a generation that has accepted they have lost control over their privacy because they think that's just the way it is. - Michael Roberts

Self driving car can drop me off at work and go back home for my kids - Christian Burns

Ha ha. - J.C. Bouvier

Google sex - Murray Macdonald

@Kevin... YES! but america is addicited to driving not like in europes addiction to trains - Matthew Voshell

Oh my... - J.C. Bouvier

Show title - Christian Burns

Hhahaha - Ankush Narula

He went there - Matthew Voshell

Google pee (now) - clive boulton

Badgeville have that toilet: https://twitter.com/jowyang... - Kevin Marks

"Does Google Hold Your Dick When You Pee?" - Ankush Narula

Doc FTW!! - Tom Guarriello

One day google will wipe our butt - Christian Burns

google has automated toilets that wash your butt - Kevin Marks

Robert wants Guitar Solo's without playing the Guitar - Moe Glitz

Self driving cars would save as many lives as roundabouts - Christian Burns

Self-driving cars will make for some good pranks. - Murray Macdonald

Self driving car gonna fix DUI? - clive boulton

lots - Christian Burns

Hello! Hi-tech toilets can now get hacked. NSA will be able to control them. ;) - Alex de Soto

Did "demolition man" know google was working on the three shells? - Matthew Voshell

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Keith Teare

I don't want the NSA up my ass - Ankush Narula

Google is just a tool to get things done, if another way is more accessible/cheaper/easier to use/as trusted, then I'll use it - Da

Man I wish I could like these comments - Christian Burns

Only the OS could integrate... - Murray Macdonald

does NSA have access to those toilet auto-flush IR cameras? - Kevin Marks

Google ChromeOasS ? - Ankush Narula

IFTTT is definitely directional - Tom Guarriello

like on battlestar galactica, no networked toilets - Christian Burns

peer to peer search engine - Da

+1 christian - Ankush Narula

pee-er to pee-er? - Kevin Marks

@Kevin, that's a really good one! - Tom Guarriello

+1 kevin - Ankush Narula

+1 kevin - Christian Burns

@roberrt wheres te weekly microsift dump? http://blogs.wsj.com/digits... - Matthew Voshell

Show title: "Ok Glass, stop peeing on my wife" - J.C. Bouvier

I'm still stuck at "does Google hold your dick when you pee?" - Tina Chase Gillmor

Google is the butt of your domains - Moe Glitz

This is quite a show. - Robert Scoble

that doesnt make it better Robert - Christian Burns

The decentralization of the Internet may just have been an early phase. - Tom Guarriello

@JC LOL - Matthew Voshell

It always a matter of tradeofs - Christian Burns

trade offs - Christian Burns

Personal Cloud. - Murray Macdonald

the car, if no centralized road building infrastructure, then less usuful - Da

There needs to be at least one show every so often where the chat room devolves into potty humor - Ankush Narula

"Ok Glass, stop peeing on my Apple" - clive boulton

I wish I could trust my personal cloud to be private Keith - Christian Burns

Bring on the Symantic Web - Murray Macdonald

dont pee on my cloud - Tina Chase Gillmor

Self driving electric trike, - Christian Burns

Seriously, don't miss this Bruce Schneier video http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Tom Guarriello

Christian - understood - Keith Teare

Keith, that is the foundation. And a huge market - Christian Burns

there was a whole "era" about p2p a while back. people have spoken: they want all the features that centralization bring. - Sue D. Nym

Pee Pro: http://gizmodo.com/5947312... Game for toilet. - Robert Scoble

ABAC and RBAC - Scalable, Flexible, and Auditable Access Management http://csrc.nist.gov/groups... - clive boulton

nobody will "control their own personal information" so long as third party doctrine persists - Sue D. Nym

we're seeing decentralised addressability too - Kevin Marks

start thinking about a show name ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor

napster was the golden age of p2p, apple killed it with itunes - Da

Peer to Pee-er, Tina - Kevin Marks

Good one Kevin! - Robert Scoble

+1 Kevin - Tom Guarriello

bittorrent is still as much of net traffic as netflix - Kevin Marks

If you could integrate encryption into the backup process and email, messeging, that would break the NSA program. Just.me with high encryption would be huge - Christian Burns

decentralization really means deduplication... why have multiple copies of them same thing in different places? - Matthew Voshell

I suspect that's isn't the case..unfortunately. The facebook is the new TV. I doubt most people don't care to manage a personal cloud even though they can. - Michael Roberts

This is why I have to listen to each show again. - Christian Burns

to keep them safer, Matthew - Kevin Marks

@Kevin but thts why you have master/slaves for sync/backup - Matthew Voshell

a bit of fear always rears it ugly head every time I think of bittorrent. RIAA might sue me - Da

only 'consumers' still manily decentralized are enterprises (on premise, private cloud) - clive boulton

...and rapid - Tina Chase Gillmor

Drobo is nice but what about DR? plus there are much better NAS solutions like QNAP - Matthew Voshell

computing WILL be a service like electricity and Water became.. - Matthew Voshell

or use content addressable stores so you look things up by hash - Kevin Marks

And also the permalink to the photo - Christian Burns

thats what we have webmention for: http://webmention.org/ - Kevin Marks

decentralized electricity, renewable distributed generation and energy efficiency projects. Local Power in San Francisco: CleanPowerSF to Focus on Citywide Build-Out of Renewable Local Power http://www.energydigital.com/press_r... - Da

opentable? Google's zagat? - Matthew Voshell

@Kevin Camlistore... http://cliveboulton.com/post... - clive boulton

Google and other search engines legally get away with it... - Murray Macdonald

yep, clive. Also Magnet links for bittorrent - Kevin Marks

The context of comments - christina sponselli

...and you can't do a "deep delete" through connected apps. - Sue D. Nym

How about screen readers for the blind? They violate virtually everyone's terms of service. - Murray Macdonald

Hence the adoption of using the strikethrough on corrected comments - christina sponselli

Magnet Links interesting for connecting decentralized enterprises - clive boulton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... - Sue D. Nym

"Receivers MAY periodically re-verify that source links to target, and remove visible links if source no longer links to target." - webmention.org - Kevin Marks

yes christina, exactly - Kevin Marks

or the Quip trail we showed last week - Kevin Marks

here's a post with deleted and retained quoted tweets in: http://epeus.blogspot.com/2012... - Kevin Marks

Facing The Freaky Future, by Robert Scoble! - Tom Guarriello

It sure is! Want to track me tomorrow when I go river rafting? - Robert Scoble

@Rorbert: totally ripe for reinvention; someone will do it; is it Bezos? Be nice if you're right...was kinda hoping Flipboard might do it...but c'est la valley I guess. - J.C. Bouvier

did you turn on the latitude replacement in G+ robert? - Kevin Marks

Flipboard is definitely a player in the same game. - Robert Scoble

Hat tip for the Streisand effect, Kevin. Great phrase. - christina sponselli

The WP will give Amazon political protection. - Murray Macdonald

Borowitz is a freaking hoot! - Tom Guarriello

FT.com app on Android is my favorite news experince - clive boulton

Flipboard kills anything else.. - Matthew Voshell

Frankly is another app in that space, Keith. https://itunes.apple.com/us... - Tom Guarriello

Feedly FTW! - Da

@Clive, I'll check out the FT app, tx. @Matthew, I love the Flipboard experience, but I don't get the same sense of timeliness I do w/a twitter or a feedly. Need to go and review their toggles again. - J.C. Bouvier

hm, OK I misremembered the Bittorrent stats - still high though: http://news.softpedia.com/news... - Kevin Marks

J. C. you just need to refresh FLipboard. :-) - Robert Scoble

Oh, Doc, you have to watch that Bruce Schneier video. - Tom Guarriello

"It's Coming". Sounds like Robert is donating his sperm to Google - Moe Glitz

Tom - interesting, hadn't see that before - Keith Teare

Kevin: at one point they were equal - Christian Burns

Moe: if Google were creating a new human, I bet they have far better candidates to choose from than me. ;-) - Robert Scoble

@Keith A friend of mine, grad student at Stanford Business School is interning with Frankly this summer. - Tom Guarriello

Ha ha @robert, maybe it's irrational, but I feel like I'm missing information. I need to calm down when I use it or something. - J.C. Bouvier

right, but part of this is bittorrent getting more efficient with uTP - Kevin Marks

Dunbar number, small groups is where its at - Christian Burns

P2P Mesh Networks - Ankush Narula

The trouble with Print is that it gives you yesterday's news! - Moe Glitz

Object oriented news. You'll be 'Minority Report' tossing news items into your favorite reader. Pocket Kinnect. - J.C. Bouvier

Im not changing the world, just our homestead - Christian Burns

@Steve. Amen on the survival of WaPo. - J.C. Bouvier

and now I get to eat my taco - Kevin Marks

My favorte news is Launch newsletter - Christian Burns

Kevin, enjoy the taco! - Tom Guarriello

craving a taco - clive boulton

@Christian - how does Launch make money? - Ankush Narula

Tacos and Ice Cream. - Murray Macdonald

Ads - Christian Burns

Thanks everyone! - Robert Scoble

carne asada fries FTW! - Da

L8r peeps. - J.C. Bouvier

Thx - Ankush Narula

Now I can watch this http://gizmodo.com/i-never... - Christian Burns

Good Show! - Tony Stanislawski

thanks to all our devoted chat family. You are a great part of our show! - Tina Chase Gillmor

https://plus.google.com/+Scoble... Pocketcasts discussion. - Robert Scoble

Hi and bye, all. Robert just clued me in to this thing. Will use it next time. - Doc

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