Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PDT participate at http://www.building43.com/realtim...
about to go live
- Steve Gillmor
Waiting for the famous call.
- Robert Scoble
Waiting also -- with a different audio/camera connection .. see how that works.
- John Taschek
Hey this works out very well. Get to watch live for once (9 to 5er in Central time). Plus, bonus! As I'm loading up the Kindle Fire I got for my parents, there are all these real geeks in chat to whom I can ask questions.
- Amyloo
almost up...holiday delay ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
did the xmas tree fall over?
- Kevin Marks
I'm hooked on, just a couple more minutes...
- Robert Scoble
What are you hooked on? Are you sharing?
- Charlie Isaacs
now putting xmas tree back up
- clive boulton
Robert is hooked on life!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hooked on Classics - famous in their day: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
- John Taschek
he's hooked on videodrenaline
- Charlie Isaacs
Hooked on big screens and apps, of course!
- Robert Scoble
john trying to reach you. call newsgang4 on video
- Tina Chase Gillmor
...and by John I mean Taschek
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Doesn't show you're live. Let me try again.
- John Taschek
I'll tell Christmas jokes while we are waiting to stall for time. Did you hear that one of Santa's reindeer now works for Proctor and Gambel?
[Its true, Comet cleans sinks!]
- Charlie Isaacs
we're up JOhn
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What nationality is Santa Claus?
[North Polish.]
- Charlie Isaacs
Who delivers Christmas presents to dogs?
Santa Paws
- Charlie Isaacs
everyone seems to have started the holidays early
- Tina Chase Gillmor
What did the buck say to the doe on Christmas Day?
Merry Christmas, Dear!
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie's rocking the xmas jokes
- clive boulton
What did Larry want for Christmas? Two more search engines and 3 more Knowledge Management Systems
- Charlie Isaacs
Howdy y'all.
- Nir Ben Yona
Happy Birthday Ella!
- Charlie Isaacs
Don't tip the booze in the Tricaster
- clive boulton
Oops, Scoble's mic was hot during that Harde comment :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Is it chai or cha?
- Michael Mahemoff
That was supposed to be a joke, sorry
- Charlie Isaacs
Merry Christmas, War is Over
- Kevin Marks
Lapsang souchong
- Kevin Marks
hi Robert - I'm joining the show live now too :)
- Ramon Ray
Flipscam hehehheheheheh
- Stephen Pickering
I have a way of seeing music from friends called http://www.last.fm/user...
- Kevin Marks
ok Im drinking coffee ....maybe there's some kalua in it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
we gonna talk about rypple ??
- studentforce
Favorite enterprise tech - Nodejs?
- clive boulton
cliveb: definitely! studentforce: absolutely!
- Robert Scoble
Steve's boss (Marc Benioff) says we must listen to this video from wil.i.am: http://youtu.be/vjIwmJMqrco
- Robert Scoble
it aint LOGISTICS !!!
- studentforce
FedEx said that they used the incident as a "learning experience"
- Charlie Isaacs
like Google and Firefox?
- Kevin Marks
Xbox launches the Xphone and Xtv http://bit.ly/s71Qk1 (tongue in cheek)
- clive boulton
said that their product GA schedule was misaligned with the conference. bullshit !
- studentforce
CES feels stale
- clive boulton
i just rented the spce and will be doing the keynote !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- studentforce
hey cliveb I added sound effects to that FedEx video for fun :) http://youtu.be/PDF52CG71ug
- Charlie Isaacs
Exactly, Scobleizer is more real-time
- clive boulton
he/she didin't buy enough this year (Best underBuy!)
- studentforce
CES is about Android.
- Charbax
Charbax: I think Mobile World Congress is a far bigger deal for Android.
- Robert Scoble
Best Buy really blew it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple/Microsoft don't want to compete. They only want to use anticompetitive tactics and bogus patent lawsuits, they are desperate.
- Charbax
Year Robert, MWC is an even bigger Android show just a month later.
- Charbax
Tina, agree on Best Buy, that is going to hurt them
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie - the old adage ship via FedX for less handling!
- clive boulton
Last year there were 1500 booths at CES showcasing Android devices, 32 with Windows related devices, this year there'll be over 2500 booths at CES showcasing Android stuff and even fewer Windows Phone
- Charbax
android isn't just about phones any more
- Kevin Marks
Don’t make Amazon a monopoly... http://on.ft.com/sUsxfK
- clive boulton
Google launched Google Video on a CES keynote
- Charbax
shoot I missed John doing a moose impression ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Googlet demonstrated honeycomb at the last CES http://www.pcmag.com/article...
- Charlie Isaacs
my guess $40 Million (or something like that) for the main pre keynote and biggest hall and promo materials, my guess Google will take it next year
- Charbax
Steve is drinking out of his John Lennon glass today
- Tina Chase Gillmor
the question for me is how many non-phone, non-tablet devices are running android charbax. Cameras, TVs, photo frames, etc
- Kevin Marks
Tell him to say "All we are saying is give peace a chance
- Charlie Isaacs
It sure as hell will never be Nokia ;) I agree Google will do it the year after next ... if the world hasn't ended.. obviously ;)
- kosso
Yeah Kevin, I wonder at which point Canon/Nikon/Sony/Panasonic/JVC start putting Android in their DSLR and point and shoots and camcorders, provide photo apps, direct picasa/flickr uploads. Maybe Google releases ARM Powered Google TV, Android laptops, Android platform for E Ink ereaders
- Charbax
My Jawbone Up told me that I was lethargic so I attached it to the back of Lance's bike
- Charlie Isaacs
within a year most HDTVs will have Google TV integrated
- Charbax
ARM Powered Google TV costs only $25 in parts to add to a HDTV including a 1080p webcam for Google+ Hangouts
- Charbax
War Is Over, Merry Christmas
- Kevin Marks
if Apple does a HDTV, I hope it's a Quad-HD 2160p 55" for less than $2000
- Charbax
HTC monday @ gtug (mostly Android) http://4sq.com/uiJIe0
- clive boulton
But it is a good point. If stream is becoming limited by infrastructure provider plans and caps; why isn't that being solved by anyone. Last mile is limited. Spectrum is limited. What is the innovation to infrastructure that will solve it? Is anyone working on these to give us hope?
- Michael A. Romig
It'll work with White Spaces
- Charbax
plug in wires and it might work
- Jerome Hughes
WiFi spectrum was mean to use for micro ovens
- Charbax
zero wifi in the main room at le web unless you're on the ethernet tables
- Michael Mahemoff
the apple time capsule will act as a dual bandwidth access point. 2.4 and 5
- kosso
run wires to the TVs
- Kevin Marks
Homeland is good too
- Charbax
indeed: "Wires Work" ;)
- kosso
Spooks is the best show on TV (MI-5)
- Kevin Marks
"Darling I love you but give me Park Avenue" -- Arianna Huffington
- Charlie Isaacs
Boss !
- studentforce
"MI5"?? You mean "Spooks" !! :)
- kosso
Game of Thrones.. meh... Sean Bean can only play 'Sean Bean'.
- kosso
I typed Spooks
- Kevin Marks
lol
- kosso
You have to search for MI5 on netflix
- Kevin Marks
I gather the word 'spooks' has different, non-politically-correct connotations in the USA ;)
- kosso
CNN streams as does Al Jezerra (sp?) to my iPad
- studentforce
Before they lost every domain in existence
- Michael Mahemoff
There's 10 seasons of spooks?
- Charbax
Who owns Godaddy? Didn't they sell to someone recently?
- Charbax
yes, new CEO
- Kevin Marks
GoDaddy caved, and said they'll sit back and see what everyone else thinks - for now. Todd Cochrane from Geek News Central had a phone interview with Warren Adelman, the new GoDaddy CEO.
- kosso
KKR and Silver Lake Partners and Technology Crossover Ventures
- Charlie Isaacs
I think it's time Google got in to the Domain registration and DNS management business.
- kosso
@kosso - of course Sean Bean is no longer on the show ...
- John Taschek
I don't know how anyone was still on GoDaddy in the first place
- Michael Mahemoff
their advertising, especially
- Jerome Hughes
Easy to attack and also easy to move away from
- Michael Mahemoff
KKR and Silver Lake Partners paid $2.25 billion for Godaddy, maybe they want SOPA
- Charbax
I still have about 100 domains with them
- kosso
Why use GoDaddy when you can use Rackspace #shamelessplug
- Charlie Isaacs
I have google apps domains that are white label GoDaddy ones
- Kevin Marks
Wait a sec. They "caved", but if you read the press release they admit their General Counsel, Christine Jones, helped write it. Does anyone really think they are doing a full reversal here?
- Michael A. Romig
Would you buy domains from Google? And manage your DNS records through them? I would.
- kosso
Or NameCheap #shamelessfan
- Michael Mahemoff
Charlie: thank you!
- Robert Scoble
I do kosso, but they whitelabel through GoDaddy
- Kevin Marks
Google is technically an ICANN-accredited registrar
- Michael Mahemoff
it's about how many in that market take actions that are measurable
- Jerome Hughes
I'd like to host my wordpress and phpbb on Google App Engine and have Google handle domains too
- Charbax
I suggest http://hover.com/tummel Tucows (who sponsor my podcast)
- Kevin Marks
Kevin : interesting. I didn't know they did that. I think Google should do it all themselves. They could also strike some interesting info/ad deals for content etc.. it would be an interesting market. As if (someone like) GoDaddy got in to advertising a la adsense.
- kosso
baidu
- kosso
Maybe the content intermediaries don't want to loose their grip on the multi-trillion dollar content/influence industries
- Charbax
@ValaAfshar 1m
What you need to know about SOPA (Stop Online Privacy Act) in 2012 - @rww rww.to/vDqJHv.
- studentforce
social media upends sopa...
- clive boulton
Instead of SOPA our esteemed leadership should take out the evil Patent Trolls
- Charlie Isaacs
just move to Switzerland, we legalized piracy here last month
- Charbax
Even a Swiss watch is correct twice a day :-)
- Charlie Isaacs
The Internet Wins: Go Daddy Flip-Flops On SOPA by @JonMwords http://rww.to/u3UgwM
- studentforce
maybe Obama should just announce he'd veto any SOPA bill, that'd give him some online support
- Charbax
Then that lends credence to the SOPA purpose being much broader that safe havens. Like Forbes "The Gread SOPA Conspiracy" goo.gl/exQTR. The content providers want more "controls".
- Michael A. Romig
Charlie, definitely: Take out the evil Patent Trolls
- clive boulton
yeah! aha! that password is gonna protect you
- studentforce
your printer cartridge is full, but too old
- Jerome Hughes
I think you are the victim of being an early adopter, not a conspiracy of dis-operability. Scoble's HDMI example aside.
- Michael A. Romig
We'll create an encrypted darknet if they try to block stuff, the prob is maybe they'll block or slow down all packets that look like they may be used for accessing the whole darknet
- Charbax
HDCP damages signal ON PURPOSE
- Kevin Marks
@Robert Same goes for fake Apple peripherals , they simply don't work anymore on Cupertino's iDevices.
- Nir Ben Yona
I have this image in my mind of Tina standing behind Steve with a whip making him ride faster on the exercise bike.
- Charlie Isaacs
as long as the content comes out of speakers and is displayed on the screen, it can be pirated
- Charbax
even new Macbooks have look ahead signal processor stopping streaming to > 1 daisy chained device (good luck at conferences)
- clive boulton
SOPA companies can't yet install DRM in our ears and eyes
- Charbax
we only want to fly these drones over potential crime scenes
- Jerome Hughes
http://epeus.blogspot.com/2002... Charbax
- Kevin Marks
on the moon? I thought my expenses were bad
- Kevin Marks
4K2K Apple TV for under $2K, bring it on
- Charbax
Apple brings in a much bigger base than slingbox and legitimacy. People will partner with Apple rather than go to guns against them.
- Michael A. Romig
DRM Helmets - dang!
- clive boulton
Charlie that's funny but instead I would like to get the bike to power the tv. If you keep the pace... no problem. If you get slow the picture deteriorates
- Tina Chase Gillmor
My smartphone poll: http://gopollgo.com/will-yo... Interesting demographic detail.
- Robert Scoble
my guess an Apple TV won't support DivX and MKV
- Charbax
+1 Tina (I need that for my son...) :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Plus I seemed to have misplaced my whip ;-(
- Tina Chase Gillmor
DoubleTwist will stream to AirPlay at the moment
- Kevin Marks
TWCable TV for iPad as another example. But I still won't buy cable from them having been "unplugged" now for several years.
- Michael A. Romig
Christmas is coming Tina
- Charlie Isaacs
voice controlled tv will come from Apple. Via Siri(ish)
- kosso
on the 6th day of Christmas my true-love gave to me... a bullwhip a crackin'
- Tina Chase Gillmor
If the set-top-box hardware costs $50 external and $25 internal, these types of functionalities aren't really a differentiator on a $1000-$2000 HDTV
- Charbax
Wifi is the standard, but maybe it shouldn't be. Why couldn't the market crack the WiMax nut, for example. What about the latest wireless bluetooth, will that compete?
- Michael A. Romig
you can maybe use ethernet over power line in your home http://www.frys.com/product...
- Charbax
Scoble is like MS Applications, consumes all available memory and network bandwidth
- Charlie Isaacs
everyone in Paris is getting a gigabit/s to the home, they are pulling cables through the Paris sewer system
- Charbax
Yeah the problem in Europe is you can take a short train ride to the conference and you're paying silly international rates for 3G
- Michael Mahemoff
More Open spectrum is a very good answer.
- Michael A. Romig
I heard T-Mobile is available now, they have available spectrum
- Charlie Isaacs
CCNx routers - Van Jacobson
- clive boulton
Only in iPad 2 and iPhone 4S devices.
- Nir Ben Yona
do I need to move to Paris?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Dale J. Stephens @DaleJStephens 1m
Nothing is more aggravating that not being able to communicate due to lack of Internet access.
- studentforce
ipad mirroring uses few kilobits/second, a HDMI out cable can use 20Gbps
- Charbax
Ask Apple to add an HDMI output on your iphone
- Charbax
Enterasys will http://www.enterasys.com/product...
- studentforce
cat 5
- Charlie Isaacs
It could happen, but it is the early adopter problem again. All it takes are those chips that support on the fly packet inspection and prioritization to get commoditized into home devices. Of course you can do that today with higher-end network solutions. Just not your house. So I'm thinking demand just isn't there yet for the market to give you what you want.
- Michael A. Romig
Enterasys RoamAbout® wireless offerings
- studentforce
I think the demand will grow very fast
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Android devices use the MHL connector/dock which is up to 20Gbps over HDMI, mirroring can't really compete with that. Mirroring is for glorified remote controlling
- Charbax
Scoble has an OC192 coming into his house
- Charlie Isaacs
I think you should end the show NOW !!
- studentforce
watch-out for DRM in Tricaster HD...
- clive boulton
Apple doesn't want to include HDMI outputs cause they want you to buy extra devices
- Charbax
some of us have been doing this with wires and projectors for many years
- Jerome Hughes
if you have a popular YouTube account they encode your HD videos in realtime
- Charbax
are you holding your iphone with your left hand?
- Charbax
Scoble ran cables out of his windows and down the stairway
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie: nope. Just wifi. But my airport express is right over my downstairs TV.
- Robert Scoble
I don't think the politicians/Obama are corrupt
- Charbax
Apple needs to copy Sonos. I have Sonos setup in 8 rooms with Spotify and MOG and zero issues with wireless. They use their own mesh network in the house.
- Jim Long
Just use http://www.frys.com/product... and a second WiFi router
- Charbax
Politicians are persuadable by face to face speech. Trouble is that most people they talk to face to face are lobbyists.
- Kevin Marks
Google/Apple/M$/Intel/HP need to put the Billions on the table and buy congress
- Charbax
Hey now. We have several congressmen that overlap in Austin. Remember this just came down: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki... so it all has to be redone.
- Michael A. Romig
@Jim - love Sonos.
- John Taschek
the political conversation is coming back... do I smell a NewsGang?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Apple and Microsoft support SOPA? http://venturebeat.com/2011...
- Charbax
michael - find out when Lamar is appearing in public over xmas and talk to him
- Kevin Marks
@charbax powerline is not all that great, and very unpredictable. A better solution is MOCA if you want to get to other rooms and have coax.
- Jim Long
can you talk about sex and religion when you are done with politics? :-p
- Charlie Isaacs
invite Arianna on the show next time?
- Charbax
is robert drinking whisky out of a jamjar?
- Kevin Marks
cider here.
- kosso
Authentic local Somerset cider here in the UK.
- kosso
Created by Jon Lech - aka "DVD Jon"
- kosso
DoubleTwist.. obviously.. not the cider ;)
- kosso
First World Problems: http://www.reddit.com/r...
- Michael A. Romig
SOPA : Stop Online Piracy Act
- kosso
How about Second World Problems?
- Kevin Marks
Correct! It looks too much like Google Plus (Quora)
- kosso
Propitious Yuletide
- Kevin Marks
Happy Hogswatch
- Kevin Marks
Jolly Holidays!
- kosso
irreverent toast to all unfollow scripts
- clive boulton
Kevin: I use Reidel glasses to drink my whisky.
- Robert Scoble
Happy Happy everyone!
- Charlie Isaacs
Thanks for joining us!
- Robert Scoble
Happy holidays!
- Nir Ben Yona
Cheers from the UK! Have a good one! ;)
- kosso
Double Cheers! Have Fun! Happy Holidays!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
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- lucyjohnson91
Streaming to a nightlight is beyond wasteful. Having computers in the bedrooms of kids is not a good idea. You need to read up on your child policies.
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