GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT

There's the Internet of Things (and why EULAs suck for them. I wrote about that at http://bit.ly/TZOA0R. Working with our pal Dave Winer on a river of news for the NYTimes: http://bit.ly/1mBhJZI Apple finished buying Beats, which to me is proof that Steve is dead: http://bit.ly/1ozB7Gv - Doc

Tony Faddel (Nest CEO, co-creator of the iPod/Pad/Phone at Apple) shit on the Internet of Things in a talk with Mossberg: http://bit.ly/1o7UN3D But the real story there (if you watch the talk , which I can't find) is that he's keeping Nest independent from Google, and not using your Thermostat as Google narc-ware in your home. - Doc

All the news gang links in my Skype have gone yellow. You guys okay? - Doc

does anyone see the stream? - Tina Chase Gillmor

i'm ok - Keith Teare

Nope - Tom Guarriello

No stream yet. - Walter Johnson

here we go! ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor

calling now - Tina Chase Gillmor

Test pattern - Tom Guarriello

hei robert, if you're not in the shower with a beats on you're goig to be demoralized - flyinthesoup

Back - Ian Waring

Am I the only one without sound? - Anne Saulovich

Steve and Tina are pulling it together... - Doc

:) - Anne Saulovich

Heard Steve. - christina sponselli

Heard steve then - Ian Waring

Test one - Tom Guarriello

Question: how and when will the Google self-driving car first be jacked? - Doc

Um, I haven't gotten called yet. - Robert Scoble

Google and Uber for taxi fleets please - Ian Waring

Keith? you there? - Tina Chase Gillmor

I'd love to hear any rumor milling about what might be released at Google IO - Chris Hale

trying you now - Tina Chase Gillmor

robert next - Tina Chase Gillmor

Just announced some TV enhancements - Ian Waring

KEITH? - Tina Chase Gillmor

hi - Keith Teare

Samsung think Iwatch at wwdc - Ian Waring

What's up everyone! @Scoble Yea... i am an avid beats music subscriber... I actually switched off iTunes Match to go to beats music... i love it... it's curated by real people and the UX is amazing; be interested to see what apple does with it - Matthew Voshell

im also interested in hearing if anyone thinks google might release an updated glass hardware at google IO - Chris Hale

something like this, Doc? http://www.wired.co.uk/news... - Jerome Hughes

Hmmm. Still Nada - Francine Hardaway

Liquid metal everywhere... Wonder if a 3D printer will arrive for it - Ian Waring

sorry weirdnesses abound - Tina Chase Gillmor

but three up - Tina Chase Gillmor

What about the new that Evan Spiegel is apparently a dick? - Matthew Voshell

I like the idea of rebooting Scoble. - Doc

s'ok, gave me time to check out a HD gravel race movie from a friend… https://www.youtube.com/watch... - Jerome Hughes

That's what's happening now, I think. - Doc

Google Stars bookmarking? do people still use it? apple tried with reading list... i dont really use much of either - Matthew Voshell

He'll come back up and think he still works at Userland. - Doc

England 2-0 Peru in 65th minute - Keith Teare

we are rebooting Scoble - Tina Chase Gillmor

A huge dick Matthew - Francine Hardaway

@Francine.. hahaha - Matthew Voshell

wait, it's the wrong config file! - Jerome Hughes

rephrase Francine - Tina Chase Gillmor

Google Streisand form in Europe.. Although we have net neutrality and no sw patents :-P - Ian Waring

Moto is shutting down the Moto X plant in the US... - Matthew Voshell

No one can reboot Scoble!!! - Chris Hale

Still no sound here either - Anne Saulovich

Carefully repositioning myself so I opaque the pile of clothes on the shelves behind me. - Doc

"Opaque" as verb...very nice, Doc! - Tom Guarriello

@Keith... that a friendly right? Could be worse... could be with the US in the group of death :/ - Matthew Voshell

I guess Steve and Tina are having tech problems. I couldn't see them when they called, so they are rebooting machines and will try again in a minute or two. - Robert Scoble

Spell checker here for Scoble says no correction available - Ian Waring

Overheard from Steve: "Pull it out of the wall!" Makes me wonder about the antecedent of "it." - Doc

@Matthew - yep a friendly - Keith Teare

Can we discuss how awesome the show "silicon valley" is? And how accurate it is? - Matthew Voshell

some of us can, others are ignoring it - Jerome Hughes

Like pulling your head out Doc? - Francine Hardaway

30 secs and we'll have Scoble back - Tina Chase Gillmor

I watched a few minutes of Silicon Valley and thought it was so far off that I gave up. But that's a few more minutes than I give any TV show. - Doc

and he's back - Tina Chase Gillmor

@Doc... i heard the real silicon valley was pissed about it... idk - Matthew Voshell

Okay - Ian Waring

Is it June yet? - Frank Paynter

Video's on ... - Chien-Yu Lin

what happened to the girl from last week? - Chris Hale

Fuse - Ian Waring

Nicked Phil windleys T-shirt! - Ian Waring

I like older men - Francine Hardaway

Thank you Francine - Keith Teare

iOS 8 for sure. - Nir Ben Yona

Your secret is safe with all of us Francine - Ian Waring

Banners are up. - Nir Ben Yona

Eddy Cue hyped it up - Ian Waring

I have just download the conference App. Lots of secret sessions! - Carlos Cruz

wow, that sounded like an old school phone - Anne Saulovich

Beats used to be Monster made... jsut a name - Matthew Voshell

compared to spotifies 10 million - Matthew Voshell

I have the good headphones and they're not good either - Francine Hardaway

I might be way out of line but I think that Jimmy Iovine's temperament is very similar to Steve Jobs'. His opinions might be limited to music and music-related electronics for now but who knows how far he'll go. - Alex de Soto

@Alex not a horrible analogy - Matthew Voshell

My theory is that Beats is Apples new Xioami type youth brand - like Scion to Toyota - Ian Waring

music licensing..iovine is deep and gives them the channel to negoiaite with the labels - Matthew Voshell

Because it was not on Jobs' roadmap - Francine Hardaway

Xioami killing Samsung in China. Apple aiming Beats at same youth demographic - Ian Waring

Chris Hale - Alexia will be back soon. Thanks for asking - Tina Chase Gillmor

apple makes its biggest margins on dinkery: e.g. the white earbuds I'm wearing now. - Doc

Never used the mobile earphones. There's so much better alternatives out there. - Nir Ben Yona

Is it just me, or is Apple innovating less these days? - Anne Saulovich

iOS n, n=year-6 - Carlos Cruz

Don't think they will be letting Dr Dre see any of their forthcoming new products, cause he only make a bragging video - Moe Glitz

Didn't HP or someoene market themselves as having beats audio built in... and it did nothing for the brand... there was a smartphone too , HTC i think.. - Matthew Voshell

Maybe Beats will not be just an accessory ... could be the start of something revolutionary with audio inputs to produce actions on the phone we've never even thought of? - Amyloo

Apple were going to telcos asking for £100 extra cost for next handset. Maybe headset included? - Ian Waring

iBeats line takes on Sonos? - Tom Guarriello

Beats fits to the roaming household experience that will be unfolding - Arnie Klaus

from the body, to the living room, to the board room? - Tina Chase Gillmor

Eventually with biometric sensors on the earphones - Carlos Cruz

Maybe the bedroom next Tima - Moe Glitz

Steve loves him some Gaga - Tina Chase Gillmor

Tool ubiquity of places and cultures (generations) - Arnie Klaus

yeah, I almost wrote "bedroom" Moe - Tina Chase Gillmor

He talking Gaga now - Moe Glitz

Cool to hear Tina. She was particularly insightful IMHO - Chris Hale

The best theory I've heard is that this aquisition was actually about buying Beats streaming royalty deal that would have been better than was Apple could have negotiated. - Anne Saulovich

Arnie and Amyloo I agree - Francine Hardaway

Record companies will probably end up exactly like Blockbuster. - Nir Ben Yona

sometimes it's all about timing? - Tina Chase Gillmor

@anne.. i agree... Jimmy gives them an insider in payroll to help negotiate for cheaper and more content - Matthew Voshell

Its still on my playlists. Especially Staying Alive - Francine Hardaway

olive branched? - Jerome Hughes

Anne - usually deals do not survive change of ownership - Keith Teare

Microsoft's Theme Song - Moe Glitz

@matthew yup i haven't come across anything else that makes more sense. - Anne Saulovich

They can sell all those IOT devices in their stores - Francine Hardaway

Apple thinks that music is part of their "DNA." They'll figure out how to distribute a "river of music" (as Doc says) and make artists some money on the way to making the labels eventually "disintermediated." - Alex de Soto

Hope Apple doesn't get into anything like coffee, though ... - Amyloo

Elon Musk and the landable spaceship with 3d printer rocket engines - Arnie Klaus

And the Beats go on. La Di Da Di Dee - Moe Glitz

What does Robert think... quiet today? - Matthew Voshell

@keith hm, this Engadet piece hinted at the idea... http://www.engadget.com/2014... - Anne Saulovich

My first concert: Sonny & Cher. True - Tina Chase Gillmor

...and The Beat Goes On - Tina Chase Gillmor

Just thought of this: it's cars. Streaming replaces the radio. Beats are the speakers. Apple owns the entertainment dashboard. DEeals with car makers. - Doc

Mobile Sonos... - Tom Guarriello

yes - Doc

All the equipment and software will become background to voice control and the audio visual expereince. The toggles and equipment will vanish behind the media experience.. - Arnie Klaus

I think the panel just doesn't understand marketing. - Robert Scoble

Microsoft anthem is by Gerry Rafferty - get it right next time - Ian Waring

yes, our kids are experiments - Tina Chase Gillmor

Google driverless cars - Moe Glitz

I thought they'd buy sonos a while ago. Might still - Doc

They probably are confused by why RedBull sells $2 billion a year of the shittiest product I can think of. - Robert Scoble

Car tie-in sounds fitting and plasible. - Amyloo

@keith From the engadget piece. Still best argument I've heard: "The same site that leaked Beats' subscriber figures also points to another interesting figure -- the low amount of royalties that Beats pays to songwriters (approximately $0.000126 per play). Beats has previously stated that its strategy is to make sure content owners get a good deal and to work with them more closely than other services. So, in many cases that content owner could well be the songwriter. But, this is, perhaps, a good indicator of where the purchase of Beats Music offers its best return, and where Beats co-founder Jimmy Iovine's reported industry sway could really pay off." - Anne Saulovich

I do the same thing as Ella - Francine Hardaway

itunes is a hideous store. - Doc

I'd look for Apple to announce a reboot of iTunes at WWDC. It's overdue. - Doc

Sonos + Spotify - Tom Guarriello

As a Beats Music subscriber... and former iTunes Match user.... iTunes match would take FOREVER to buffer... Beats Music is almost instant... idk what algorithm they use but it's noticeably faster. - Matthew Voshell

yes, maybe a serious iTunes revamp. I've never really warmed up to it - Tina Chase Gillmor

Car play is based on QNX! - Ian Waring

iHeartRadio is that though isnt it? - Matthew Voshell

HP laptops already have Beats speakers installed. - Nir Ben Yona

On star - Ian Waring

Are you talking about a continuous client experience? - Chien-Yu Lin

Eventually the iPod will go inside the Beats Headphones - Moe Glitz

Bye, bye SiriusXM in the car! - Alex de Soto

has anyone here been in a car with apples new infotainment platform? - Chris Hale

Sonos + Spotify + SiriusXM - Tom Guarriello

i think Scoble has - Tina Chase Gillmor

i am curious to hear if it works with anything other than idevices - Chris Hale

I have been at Mercedes' R&D lab. - Robert Scoble

Isn't that google wallet though... ? and how much penetration has that had? - Matthew Voshell

The banking system does need disruption - Francine Hardaway

If Microsoft wants to keep Xbox alive as a Media Player they should buy Spotify - Moe Glitz

The cars are ideal for natural language interfaces like Siri - Carlos Cruz

Just seeing Oculus announced with Samsung - Ian Waring

Could a phone interface with stuff like car anti-collision tech? - Amyloo

agreed but i have issues with basic stuff with siri - Chris Hale

it gets frustrating really fast - Chris Hale

Agree. Tom. They could pick up Sirius for a song, so to speak. - Doc

The banking system is corrupt - Moe Glitz

Engadget reports Samsung (SSNLF) is partnering with Oculus VR (FB) to build a mobile/media-focused VR headset. - Ian Waring

Shaun Lind is the Senior UX Visual Designer at Beats Music. Wonder if he's heading to Apple. - Alex de Soto

Robert's over this topic. hahaha - Anne Saulovich

Scoble, dont hate on Redbull. - Chris Hale

Motorola just announced they are shutting down their Texas plant. - Chien-Yu Lin

Google don't do music - Moe Glitz

Google needs Jay-Z and P.Diddy now. - Nir Ben Yona

Tina - sorry my fault. some kind of a glitch - Keith Teare

YouTube does music - Ian Waring

if Google got Jay Z that would be awesome sauce - Chris Hale

Robert is right. Iovine said that Beats hardly spent money on advertising at first, relying on product placement in music videos to sell, sell, sell. - Alex de Soto

Hip Hop is dead that's why Dre went into Hardware - Moe Glitz

They're bringing in price premiums in product classes that are commoditizing. - Chien-Yu Lin

not sure why Farber's screen dims a lot. Maybe a timing issue with his setup - Tina Chase Gillmor

Farber has the same problem I do: sun on a background window that keeps going behind clouds. - Doc

Bono was a Steve Jobs selected brand builder - Arnie Klaus

Beyer Dynamic and Sennheiser are two of the best. - Nir Ben Yona

Purchasing and selection is a satificing exercise. - Chien-Yu Lin

It means Beats supports those shows and celebs - Tina Chase Gillmor

That's why the Brand that has the cool factor around it, always wins - Moe Glitz

Buyers Remorse - Ian Waring

This website is devoted to "head-fi" http://www.head-fi.org/product... - Alex de Soto

Relevant: Google is corpora non grata in Europe: seen as radioactive around privacy, which Europeans take very seriously. See what the VW CEO said a couple days ago. - Doc

Every Apple commercial focuses on music. It is the gateway product for the Apple experience. - Chien-Yu Lin

Huge opportunity for Apple to come in and say, "Partner with us. We'll take care of privacy. We are not in the ad business." - Doc

I love this chat. just sayin' - Tina Chase Gillmor

Apple profits from Beats prophets helping people spend time rather than save time. - clive boulton

JH Audio are making the best in-ear monitors. - Nir Ben Yona

Beats has partner with HTC in the past :-) - Carlos Cruz

Right Chien - Moe Glitz

yeah that's over - Tina Chase Gillmor

Ability to build subscribers is at the speed social media fashion...fast - Arnie Klaus

Is there also a move from buying to streaming music? - christina sponselli

We need a gang stream - Arnie Klaus

An Apple a day keeps the Doctor away - Moe Glitz

Beats Music has in app purchase on Apple's App Store. So easy to subscribe. - Alex de Soto

Where's Kevin to defend Google - Moe Glitz

Streaming is just the music manifestation of the sharing / usage economy. It asks the most fundamental question: What is more important?: Use or Ownership? - Chien-Yu Lin

Germany ain't Europe! - Ian Waring

I think doc has some good points. - Chris Hale

I liked the term radioactive - Chris Hale

Google does not have a high end brand - Francine Hardaway

At least Google isn't defacing El Capitan with a big X like this: https://twitter.com/Josh... - Frank Paynter

Sorry Ian - Moe Glitz

Everybody is collecting data. Google just looks like it is doing it more blatantly and thus, is mistrusted. - Chien-Yu Lin

Moves is inaccurate by 2000 steps - Francine Hardaway

Don't be evil... - Carlos Cruz

Don't get caught being evil ... - Chien-Yu Lin

eh! eh! - Carlos Cruz

Germany! - Ian Waring

Meeker's slides... http://www.kpcb.com/interne... - Frank Paynter

The challenge with German car makers is that they have a very disciplined product roadmap. BMW is known for 7 year product launches. Does Apple have the patience and commitment to work with someone for 7 years without seeing Dollar One? - Chien-Yu Lin

That 25 years thing was a pretty dramatic statement. Mossberg came out of his chair on that one - Tom Guarriello

Liquid Metal everywhere - Ian Waring

Thanks Frank. - Carlos Cruz

Detente between CRM and MSFT signals evolution of apps to remixing the enterprise? - clive boulton

Thanks, Frank! - Doc

All it means that all of the latest product upgrades are good plus they have the iWatch on board - Moe Glitz

you're welcome - Frank Paynter

Most car makers have very long road maps. Hence Car play based on QNX - Ian Waring

Cue hyperbole? - Alex de Soto

Cue the Music - Moe Glitz

The same guy who designed QNX designed the iPod at Apple. So there are commonalities there. - Robert Scoble

Didn't Ballmer laugh at Salesforce - Moe Glitz

how about balmer buying Clippers? - Chris Hale

Ballmer buys the Clippers. That was a huge surprise! - Tom Guarriello

The only place these guys see each other is in the Gang - Francine Hardaway

Rocket Ships into Space! - Arnie Klaus

Windows Phone is picking up market share - Ludwig Ederle

Again, would love to see a long Apple commercial with the entire ecosystem in play. - Chien-Yu Lin

Microsoft fast moving past Ballmer era - clive boulton

Google, Apple, Microsoft will all play PAC-Man this year - Moe Glitz

Apple home automation, I health, etc - Ian Waring

+1 on the PACman comment - Frank Paynter

there was a rumor about apple home automation - Chris Hale

but i heard it was just some sort of certification platform - Chris Hale

IPhone is the hub - Ian Waring

First four, five iPhone launches during the summer. Now, many delays, launching phone past start of school year. Wondering if this is deliberate? Students spend money (forgiveness) rather than shop with parents (permission). Probably more spend per purchase. - Chien-Yu Lin

The iPhone made the Apple brand popular among non-geeks. This opened the door to the rest of people's lives. - Tom Guarriello

TV. Facebook wants to know what you're watching and listening to. Google wants your in-house behavior data with Nest, etc. - Nir Ben Yona

holy crap. I wish i had 5 hours a day to watch tv - Chris Hale

iBeacons will be used in Home Automation also - Carlos Cruz

Going beyond apps. - Doc

OS X Yosemite? http://www.theverge.com/2014... - Matthew Voshell

Has the stream gone down - Moe Glitz

just thought of an awesome code name for a version of OSX - Chris Hale

keeping with the animal naming theme apple has - Chris Hale

Mac OSX honey badger - Chris Hale

The new tools change the paradigm. The paradigm changes the tools. - Arnie Klaus

Apple should open App development to Apple TV - Carlos Cruz

Apps yes - passport/Healthbook are app hubs - Ian Waring

inter app operability! another cycle - Jerome Hughes

Cortana does app services http://cliveboulton.com/post... - clive boulton

Cloud 2.0? - Moe Glitz

Let's hope Apple and Google don't block these App Services - Moe Glitz

Yes, Jerome. data flow between apps. event-based logic and interop between apps and services. - Doc

Doc has it - Ian Waring

Apple hasn't joined http://schema.org/ - clive boulton

thinking back to meetings about that on minicomputer platforms in the 90s - Jerome Hughes

Get of my Cloud - Moe Glitz

The devices will become background utility to the experience. The devices will dissapper into the landscape an as vanity wearables. - Arnie Klaus

what is tv? - Doc

Will app services drive Détente - clive boulton

I can see a special Gillmor Gang on Monday - Moe Glitz

http://www.amazon.com/Fire-TV... - Doc

Responsive to tactile, audio, visual - Arnie Klaus

was thinking that yesterday, Moe - Jerome Hughes

Any chance something will appear that's totally disruptive, a new revolutionary direction like the Web in 1990 will take off... like Named-Data Networking?? http://blog.caida.org/best_av... - Frank Paynter

Television will be two things: (1) Content (which is the TV); and (2) Commerce (which will be about interactive television where certain products, services that will be "highlighted" where you will be able to run, beam, mouse across the product and either basket or purchase right then - assuming you have a digital wallet on TV file. - Chien-Yu Lin

Content: another question about "usage vs. ownership". - Chien-Yu Lin

stream blip - Tina Chase Gillmor

Capex replaced by OpEx - Ian Waring

http://www.wired.com/2014... - Moe Glitz

Netflix TV in the future - Moe Glitz

Moe +1 - Frank Paynter

Streaming is the disrupter. Keith on Mary Meeker slide 41 http://cliveboulton.com/post... - clive boulton

robert very quiet lately - Tina Chase Gillmor

I liked Doc's point of view. Still miss Alexia though - Chris Hale

Robert, have you lost weight, or just width, going from 16x9 to 3x4? - Doc

Totally agree Robert on improvements to sharing - Arnie Klaus

Streaming is going to disrupt everything - Moe Glitz

G3 week 1 hats, week 2,sunglasses, what's next? - Ian Waring

My Tech is bigger than yours - Moe Glitz

Doc: I've lost about 15 pounds this year so far. - Robert Scoble

lmao - Chris Hale

Enterprise streaming? - clive boulton

at the internal wearables comment - Chris Hale

Excellent, Robert. Keep it up. Or down. - Doc

Does my bum look big in this - Moe Glitz

Better get some iLubricant to go with that! - Alex de Soto

@scoble , 15 lbs is awesome. Keep it up - Chris Hale

congrats to our Ella . Big high schooler now! - Tina Chase Gillmor

Notify us about the Notification Feature - Moe Glitz

Another great show. Always learn something new each time. - Chien-Yu Lin

Good show... STREAMING FTW \o/ - Frank Paynter

was fun - Doc

Thanks everyone! - Robert Scoble

Good stuff - Moe Glitz

Yep. Rock on. - Doc

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