Gillmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PST

who's on today? - Kevin Marks

you are - Steve Gillmor

kevin ... steve ... + ? ... - Xenophrenia

just me? - Kevin Marks

.Oscon takeaway, the boom's about Big Data. - clive boulton

Me. - Robert Scoble

Tina - can't find Gillmor Gang on Ustream for iPad - used to work fine with the iPhone version - Ankush Narula

hmm... need to work on that later. need to start the show. - Tina Chase Gillmor

k - Ankush Narula

:) - Christian Burns

Danny's mic is hot - Jerome Hughes

getting some packet loss here, I may need to switch to my 4g - Kevin Marks

that's good Robert - Tina Chase Gillmor

well ... overlap with TWiL ... missed the start .. hmm - Xenophrenia

I created a filter for gmail that autoarchives notifications or comments on g+ - Christian Burns

Hey Forget about Twil ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor

G+ circles making FB design antique - clive boulton

This is a beta being tested out on the public - Xenophrenia

Just catch twil later, this is realtime folks - Christian Burns

they need to test it at scale - Kevin Marks

a brilliant comment Christian! - Tina Chase Gillmor

TWiT shows are where I started (actually TechTV is where but... ) ... didn't discover this til later ;-) ... I have an interest in the legal issues with tech - Xenophrenia

Tina chucklin'! :D - Jerome Hughes

Joe Hewitt talking to MG over on TechCrunchTV - Ankush Narula

Its called failing better than facebook. - Christian Burns

Denise Howell is very smart... - Kevin Marks

Brand Profiles across any area of Google will fail - Moe Glitz

Loren said that about the squid - Christian Burns

Mute this gif - Christian Burns

how about Places, Moe? - Kevin Marks

I love Denise...really I do1 - Tina Chase Gillmor

Not sure Kevin, their Brand Profiles are all over the place - Moe Glitz

perhaps it could be both - Jerome Hughes

Twitbook - Moe Glitz

with different views once that's more possible - Jerome Hughes

Community is building with chrome plugins - Christian Burns

This is so much more about profiles and identity... the activity stream and comment systems are a byproduct - Jerry Schuman

Google can adopt the best features later - Christian Burns

Google needs to accelerate personas combined with trust network validations - Jerry Schuman

yep Jerry - Christian Burns

Jerry - those just rollin' still get to breathe exhaust - Jerome Hughes

yes - Xenophrenia

Did Amy Winehouse's death hit Twitter or Google+ first? - Moe Glitz

Steve, bringing it back, - Christian Burns

and then what happened? - Jerome Hughes

2 much G+ noise like corp email CC - clive boulton

Google can address one of the biggest stumbling blocks today.. DISCOVERY, especially when it comes to how I can be contacted.. via a circle, via a VoIP call, via a Hangout etc etc etc. Combine webfinger with profiles and you're talking the directory of all directories. - Jerry Schuman

Its still a mystery to me, few of my contacts use it and so it remains idle. - Arnie Klaus

Twitter celebrated 5 years. Will Google+ do the same in 2016? - Moe Glitz

g+ is here to stay - Christian Burns

cross posting sucks - Xenophrenia

I would like to crosspost to facebook - Christian Burns

I stop following people who do that - I'll follow your Twitter feed if I want to see you Twitter feed ;-) - Xenophrenia

this is a great example of how I want to see a message... the message routing should be recipient determined.. not what the hell service I'm logged into. - Jerry Schuman

Cross posting *everything* sucks, but cross posting *some* content across many networks can be useful. - Chris Bray

Facebook killed our family blogging, g+ is going to bring it back - Christian Burns

cross posting should be earned ? - Jerome Hughes

Apple-Twitter all the media and best personal tools. - Arnie Klaus

Cross post photos - Christian Burns

Chris: exactly, and copying and pasting doesn't take long. - Robert Scoble

yes - it depends on how and where ... but many who do that only post in one place and forward it to everyone else - Xenophrenia

I understand *why* they do it ... but just because you can doesn't mean you should ;-) - Xenophrenia

I copy and pasted my blog post in, but the lost links made it less useful - Kevin Marks

I tend to use #fb on the end of a Tweet to cross post to Facebook, #li to post to LinkedIn, I'd use #gp to cross post to Google+, but I use them sparingly and only when applicable. - Chris Bray

solution... be a better noise processor - Jerome Hughes

our 8 year old family blog has been silent for 2 years - Christian Burns

Tumblr's got blogging dialed right in - clive boulton

Ping is still a sleeping giant. - Arnie Klaus

Posterous is how we do photos - Christian Burns

LOL - Jerome Hughes

Kevin has mad self mute skills - Christian Burns

Kevin, nice headset and noise reducer. Brand? - Arnie Klaus

suddenly I'm surrounded by lunch people. oops - Kevin Marks

Is Steve now bored of Apple? - Moe Glitz

skillz! - Jerome Hughes

Posterous seems to do pictures best, overall prefer Tumblr's edge - clive boulton

Moe... iOS5 *tw integration to the rescue - Jerome Hughes

It's a Sony headset, with active noise supression. - Kevin Marks

I have Danny in a circle called "flame bait" - Jerry Schuman

kevin -- people found you. there are no private corners! - Tina Chase Gillmor

Google+ shows there still is room for someone else can get into the game. - Arnie Klaus

gmail was a beta until they had it replicated across data centres - Kevin Marks

g+ is whats happening now - Christian Burns

the keynote just ended, and the 1000 or so left are snacking - Kevin Marks

did you see MSFT's attack video on gmail? - Kevin Marks

food rules - Tina Chase Gillmor

google corp does need to learn, Danny pushback helps make that happen - Christian Burns

Kevin, MSFT's 'GMail Man' is cringeworthy isn't it! - Chris Bray

like with Apple - it's a religious type of thing ... people get a little crazy when they nearly worship something - Apple inspires religious experience according to science ;-) - Xenophrenia

I wish Scoble hade a circle for posting to non noisy commentors. - Christian Burns

Apple religion will launch ping - Arnie Klaus

GMail Man is FUD ... scaring people for profit ... - Xenophrenia

Scoble, do you read every comment? - Christian Burns

I try. But I do fail. - Robert Scoble

Like Leo said on Windows Weekly to Paul Thurrott - it's really no different than spell check only using it for different purposes ;-) - Xenophrenia

totally understandable - Christian Burns

I miss OSCON.. needs to come back to San Diego - Jerry Schuman

I dont comment on a scoble posts because It feels like I wont connect, just add to the noise - Christian Burns

Kevin's got a bug - Moe Glitz

call me back - Kevin Marks

g+ embedded Peter Norvig direct report Ed Chi for HCI analysis / noise control etc - clive boulton

I love the nearby stream for g+ - Christian Burns

node,js getting a lot of attention too - Kevin Marks

Can Brands really target Three Streams? - Moe Glitz

Christian: when I'm posting I'm almost always reading every comment, even when they come hot and heavy. But after say 30 minutes the chances I see it go down. - Robert Scoble

Good to know, I also dont post unless I have something to add :) - Christian Burns

Dont comment I mean :) - Christian Burns

a bug? - Kevin Marks

So the people who think before they type are the ones you don't read ;) - fuzzyscorpio

@robert i found a complicated way to share a circle with people who are part of the circle. - Abhijeet Desai

anyone going to the TechCrunch party later today? - Tina Chase Gillmor

yes, flying back for the TC party tonight - Kevin Marks

Where's the TC party - Moe Glitz

Cant go, Need to take care our our goats. - Christian Burns

August Capital, tho' I think it's sold out - Kevin Marks

send them a huddle message . when u c the participants of the circle . @ the end u c an add to circle option so u can add all those people in the huddle to a circle, - Abhijeet Desai

see you later then Kevin. Maybe a drink together - Tina Chase Gillmor

Christian - Goats sound like more fun! - Tina Chase Gillmor

I search for Rackspace and I see that Robert and Ben Fisher +1'd the site - Jerry Schuman

Interestingly that same "xxx Shared This" also seems to hook into my Twitter feed somehow since it identified a share from a contact that's not on Google+ yet... - Chris Bray

ya even i saw that - Abhijeet Desai

I get HD net from Mark Cuban and Virgin inflight from Porter Gale when I search for movies - Kevin Marks

So if lady gaga will +1 a page on google, would up the ranking for the little monsters? - Christian Burns

probably separate DBs at the moment - Kevin Marks

yes, christian - Kevin Marks

they are working on it is what google said - Abhijeet Desai

It'll be interesting to see how the fact that my Google+ and Twitter social graph is very different to my Facebook social graph (mainly tech/work rather than family/friends) affect these result promotions. - Chris Bray

yes, social search is part of this - Kevin Marks

lost you Kevin - Tina Chase Gillmor

crazy to be able to have these meaty commentaries and conversations but unable to retrieve any of it - fuzzyscorpio

you're back! - Tina Chase Gillmor

interesting.. http://blog.superfeedr.com/meta... - Jerry Schuman

It’s a Chrome application that will silently build a small firehose of all the web services that you use online. It will show you some of these messages as HTML5 notifications. - Jerry Schuman

Your mom on Facebook has never heard of Twitter or Google+ - Moe Glitz

Got to make lunch for the kids, see ya - Christian Burns

there's now a right-wing plan to report Barack Obama for spamming twitter - Kevin Marks

I actually think almost everyone now has "heard" of twitter, even if they don't use it - Tina Chase Gillmor

I can guarantee that my mother knows about both Twitter and Google+. Primarily because I'm her son and we're connected on FB and she's actively involved in politics. She's also 72 - Jerry Schuman

(mental image of Kool-Aid guy with a Facebook tattoo breaking through a firewall) - Ankush Narula

What Barack never mentioned Google+? - Moe Glitz

Can someone explain the difference between search and track? - Ankush Narula

twitter is now fail-whaling for me. did Obama DDOS it? - Kevin Marks

Get rid of Xeni and you'll cut down on the cat photos ;-) - Jerry Schuman

ya we need search for google plus - Abhijeet Desai

https://twitter.com/#search... - Kevin Marks

Abhijeet: Sparks might eventually be that - Ankush Narula

it's bloggy :) - fuzzyscorpio

Anybody found a really good use for Sparks yet? - Ginger Zumaeta

ankush... track was realtime push, search is just behind pull - Jerome Hughes

may be but sparks is more like google news - Abhijeet Desai

But sparks isn't nearly as good as google news - wish it was - Ginger Zumaeta

If Google+ fails can you see them trying to buy Twitter? - Moe Glitz

i doubt it will fail but they may plan to buy twitter anyways !! - Abhijeet Desai

sparks is a placeholder at the moment - I think we're going to see something really cool there that uses search algorithms and filters based on your social interactions/profile - Ankush Narula

Facebook missed out on purchasing Twitter - Moe Glitz

Nice Steve Gillmor gave Amy Winehouse props - clive boulton

one of my friends at Google who codes for Apple just quit to build his own iOS apps - Kevin Marks

Google should look outside and hire contractors that can kick ass with iOS. - Alex de Soto

LOL robert - Abhijeet Desai

Google has 10 iPhone apps - I don't understand what Steve is alluding to - Ankush Narula

Big companies create their own silos - Arnie Klaus

Big G running a torrent of Android Hack-a-thons 3rd and 4th qtr - clive boulton

Steve has been playing Amy Winehouse at home all week - Tina Chase Gillmor

the primary users of plus in its limited trial is alpha-geeks. I believe there is a general perception that IOS isn't for alpha geeks... that's Androids domain - Jerry Schuman

Google got burnt by Apple holding up apps before; I bet Vic is still grumpy about that - Kevin Marks

right Jerry - fuzzyscorpio

@Kevin that too - fuzzyscorpio

She was a legend Tina. Visited her home yesterday - Moe Glitz

Tina, great, he was not alone. - clive boulton

the Google+ app on android is not specially tuned for the android tablet either. - Kevin Marks

the politics of dancing - Jerry Schuman

Rapid adaptive social tool design - Arnie Klaus

Jerry: most alpha geeks I know use iPhones. Android has that peception, yes, but only 20% of the Where 2.0 attendees had ANdroid. Everyone else had iPhones. - Robert Scoble

Robert, I totally agree with you. It's also my experience but I can only imagine the discussion among product management on Google regarding platform priority. - Jerry Schuman

@Robert that's nice to hear. - fuzzyscorpio

(I am an iDufus :)) - fuzzyscorpio

I'm currently using an HTC Inspire and curse it daily - Jerry Schuman

Noise: Betas are so 90s. I'm using Mac OS X Lion $29 "non-beta" now. Issues crop up daily but friendly geeks share their workarounds while we wait for an update from Apple. - Alex de Soto

not very well defined noise - Jerome Hughes

Hangout on the iPad would bury FaceTime and Skype - Moe Glitz

Steve - in the meantime use Boxcar for notifications (http://boxcar.io) - Ankush Narula

hangout isn't on android either yet - Kevin Marks

they never get surfaced... that is a badly flawed part of Circles - Jerry Schuman

Right on the money Steve! - Alex de Soto

I thought it was a major mistake when they gave the example of: - Jerry Schuman

there should be a way for your private messages to go to your priority inbox or something. but has to be a message from someone you want to hear from. - Laura Norvig

pseudo email with Google+ - Jerry Schuman

what value does this unknown entity provide? - Jerome Hughes

Jerome: explain, sorry, I lost context. - Robert Scoble

Google is crowdsourcing features for Google Plus. They have so stated. Their wheels are spinning... - Alex de Soto

Condensed view and other cool G+ features for Chrome: http://huyz.us/google-plus-me/ - Ankush Narula

ya we need hangout for mobile - android/ios - Abhijeet Desai

@Robert why don't you turn off "added-you" notifications? or did I miss something? - fuzzyscorpio

btw: you can create a circle and stick yourself in it to create the idea of an inbox. - Jerry Schuman

I'm in marketing, and I don't see a problem with keeping all brands out for now. Their problem was letting a handful in. - Alex de Soto

you can't turn off added you from the notification stream, only from email - Kevin Marks

when someone you don't know injects, what does their history tell you about their motive? - Jerome Hughes

thanks @Kevin, sorry, I see that now - fuzzyscorpio

but how are you ever going to see my new product code named SQUID? - Jerry Schuman

lol - Tina Chase Gillmor

Didn't Google learn anything about noise from Google Buzz? - Moe Glitz

Jerry points out the boy in the filter bubble - Jerome Hughes

That right Jerry. I use one as a "Read Later" circle. - Alex de Soto

you can filter your notifications though, in the web interface. You can see either "added" or "posts you made" etc. - Laura Norvig

G+ Android app is sweet (to me) - clive boulton

I do wish cats and their admirers weren't becoming the whipping post of G+ :) - fuzzyscorpio

I'm having way more fun with Spotify this week than with G+ - Laura Norvig

like a twitter retweet in the web ui - Ankush Narula

more seriously, I also kinda wish I could refuse people the right to circle me... already I'm thinking i should stop using "Public" - fuzzyscorpio

good idea robert - Abhijeet Desai

Certainly you want to hear about MY cats! - Tina Chase Gillmor

I should be able to mutea user from my incoming stream - Christian Burns

thanks for the snappy ringbacks tina - Kevin Marks

feline order of personality - Jerome Hughes

you should have some special circles for that - Kevin Marks

gesturing! - Jerome Hughes

exactly - Kevin Marks

alert me more strongly with... - Kevin Marks

I missed that notifications filter dropdown on plus.google.com, thanks @Laura Norvig! that's handy - fuzzyscorpio

Hey Christian... did you already feed those kids. Man you're fast - Tina Chase Gillmor

Noise prolly inspired Dave Morin - clive boulton

it's easy to miss, fuzzyscorpio - I stumbled on it randomly. - Laura Norvig

the notifications filter probably doesn't help Robert because he doesn't want to break from the stream - fuzzyscorpio

Noise is relative. So filtering en masse would be difficult. User tagging (of posts) would help. - Alex de Soto

Does Apple ever do Beta? - Moe Glitz

Hold on they've said that this deployment is a stripped down version of something more fully fledged that is deployed internally. - Jerry Schuman

@Tina I'm going to look for you over there and put you in my "feline" circle :) - fuzzyscorpio

Danny's got it. - Arnie Klaus

Geez I hope The Google+ dev folks are listening today. we're doing some good work for them here - Tina Chase Gillmor

Google is gun shy from the Buzz blow back - Jerry Schuman

they intend to add it to other google products, they've said that, so probably testing that internally - Kevin Marks

other teams didn't believe in it initially? - Kevin Marks

Ping is a field trial with patience. - Arnie Klaus

Yep, I'm standing in the kitchen just eating now. Not able to listen, just ff on the android - Christian Burns

I love broughten... it's good with brautwurst. - Jerry Schuman

ha - Ankush Narula

lol @Jerry - fuzzyscorpio

Reuters FLASH: Bill Gates sells 5,000,000 shares of Microsoft for average $27.59 each on July 27, 2011 -SEC filing. - Alex de Soto

I saw the WebOS tablet from HP here, nice OS, tablet too heavy for now - Kevin Marks

But Apps won't around then Robert! - Moe Glitz

Jerry ha - Tina Chase Gillmor

Short MSFT.. - Jerry Schuman

Do they still use Zunes? - Arnie Klaus

Ballmer has to go - Moe Glitz

Sucks deep... no comment ;-) - Tina Chase Gillmor

I use Facebook - Tina Chase Gillmor

Facebook = Family and Friends - Alex de Soto

Windows Phone 7 - Arrington's comment on Gillmor Gang back in September: https://twitter.com/#!... - Ankush Narula

Ankush: exactly. - Robert Scoble

At least Google tries out Social Media - Moe Glitz

Just the idea they called it "Windows" shows how utterly borked MSFT is... - Jerry Schuman

Scale of Microsoft and Partner channel biz model require top guy to be product guy (not sales guy) - clive boulton

and then to name it after years... ooops! - Jerome Hughes

lets carry this discussion forward on google hangout https://talkgadget.google.com/hangout... - Abhijeet Desai

For Microsoft their idea of Social Media is investing in Facebook - Moe Glitz

Jerry++ - Ankush Narula

Someone ask Loic how grateful he is that Microsoft lead him down the silverlight path for Seesmic and then abandoned it. - Jerry Schuman

haha - Ankush Narula

RIM is dead. - Jim Turner

Jerry: Loic Plays for Sure ;-) - Ankush Narula

http://h41112.www4.hp.com/promo... $449.99 - Kevin Marks

MSFT + Nokia - Too little too late? - Chris Bray

-honeycomb (in my searches) - Jerome Hughes

RIM is valuable (to Google?) - clive boulton

Cadence - The root of social. - Arnie Klaus

API!!!! embrace the developers - Jerry Schuman

"HP TouchPad. Works like nothing else." - I was at BestBuy yesterday and both display units were uncharged and turned off - unlike the iPads in the next display - Ankush Narula

they need the eco-system - Jerry Schuman

but can they tolerate it? - Jerome Hughes

Is Google+ turning into a Soap Opera - Moe Glitz

a deprecating decorator icon is optimal! - Jerome Hughes

Instagram Cat Pictures! - Alex de Soto

Cadence (lack of it) is MSFT's cross to bear. - clive boulton

google has launched photovine isnt it like instagram ??? - Abhijeet Desai

I've been waiting for a Photovine invitation for a while.... - Alex de Soto

Very true abhijeet - Moe Glitz

I can't believe Steve said that about solarization, LOL - fuzzyscorpio

throw your phone in the air, just like you just don't care! - Jerome Hughes

@Abhijeet same general idea, as I understand it - fuzzyscorpio

who cares, Roku rocks! - Laura Norvig

3DS price slashed abt 1/3rd - clive boulton

Roku supports Hulu and Amazon as well as Netflix - Ankush Narula

apps on AppleTV... it's just around the corner - Jerry Schuman

they turn on that bluetooth chip and it's going to get interesting. - Jerry Schuman

What does the bluetooth chip give you that the Wifi doesn't? - Ankush Narula

Live stream that one Steve. - Jim Turner

good save! - Jerome Hughes

bye ;-) - Xenophrenia

Good show guys :) - Chris Bray

guys join a hangout to discuss tech now https://talkgadget.google.com/hangout... - Abhijeet Desai

Thanks! - Robert Scoble

Adios muchachos(chas)! - Alex de Soto

Interesting, I'll definitely tune in again! Sorry I haven't sooner. - fuzzyscorpio

hello? did y'all finish? - Kevin Marks

its over Kev - Jerry Schuman

We should charge Google for product consulting. - Robert Scoble

Amy Winehouse - Tenderly http://youtu.be/LNA2TdfsQhg - clive boulton

r they listening? :D - Jerome Hughes

Robert: We are the product - Ankush Narula

Who needs instagram? https://plus.google.com/1095818... - Kevin Marks

@kevin the show has ended - Abhijeet Desai

Bye all http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Ankush Narula

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