GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT

Dam British summertime, I'm to early, another glass of wine then :-) - Scott Jordan

Why does the Building43 page say "LIve Every THURSDAY at 1pm - Scott Jordan

Because we are lame. :-) - Robert Scoble

I'm running late. - Robert Scoble

Watching Scoble now as he wraps up on Google+ ["APE Author Interview with Robert Scoble, Shel Israel, Guy Kawasaki, Shawn Welch and Peg Fitzpatrick"]. - Alex de Soto

Scoble is moonlighting on another video channel - Charlie Isaacs

I'm done! - Robert Scoble

I just emailed Tina a Friday version of the graphic... Tina, check your email. :) - Murray Macdonald

I see Twitter shares dropped quite a bit in late trading, can't buy here in UK until next Wednesday - Scott Jordan

MS hit by Zero Day Virus. Apply the patch if you haven't. https://support.microsoft.com/kb... - Murray Macdonald

Robert how was your Hangout On Air expierience? - Matthew Voshell

hey Robert, is there a link to the Guy Kawasaki/You/Shel Hangout now that it is over? Did it save that on YOuTube Live Events/Hangouts on Air? - Dale Lature

Yes. https://google.com/+Scobleizer - Robert Scoble

https://plus.google.com/events... - Matthew Voshell

Matthew: I love Google Hangouts. They get better and better. - Robert Scoble

thanks! cool - Dale Lature

the HD looks AMAZING - Matthew Voshell

@Robert: Did you exchange your glass to the newer version yet? - Matthew Voshell

@Robert: Yea my brother and I (who lives in philly) are developing a show we are going to use hangout on air to do... we are acutally thinking about changing it to a "helpout" that google just released... why not get paid!! - Matthew Voshell

I'm back - John Taschek

3...2...1 - Nir Ben Yona

I have to sit through ads on ustream before i can watch the stream.. yayyyyy :/ - Matthew Voshell

Sphero has a transparent ball out so you can see the inards.. - Matthew Voshell

Twitter just lost $2 billion in value today. - Nir Ben Yona

Most valuations are a little bit nutty. - Murray Macdonald

and Rosie just came in so we'll have dog noises - muting - Kevin Marks

Tesla took a huge hit :/ Gotta play the long game - Matthew Voshell

Live Unboxing :) - Nir Ben Yona

Nir++ - Murray Macdonald

... meaning they paid for it? ha - Matthew Voshell

elon > elop - Matthew Voshell

Apple doesn't have a search engine. - Murray Macdonald

Spotlight - Kevin Marks

AOL has an agreement to use google search too - Matthew Voshell

Danny is modulating in a weird way….cant fix on my end - Tina Chase Gillmor

Apple should buy Bing. - Murray Macdonald

show link for today http://techcrunch.com/2013... - Tina Chase Gillmor

doesn't iOS default to bing now? - Kevin Marks

Apple should buy Tesla. http://money.cnn.com/2013... - Murray Macdonald

oops, I launched Apple Maps on the Macbook and skype connection dropped out - Kevin Marks

Steve you run Safari? Chrome for the win. - Murray Macdonald

Bing is design by default. Devoid of all soul. - Moe Glitz

So Apple uses Siri which uses Bing, and doesn't talk about because they hate Google. And Siri also uses Nuance for Speech and doesn't talk about that either. - Charlie Isaacs

Where's Opera ;-)? - Hessel van Tuinen

John's right to prod, gleaned via core Bing team, Microsoft investing in the underlying database platform as a future NoSQL on SQL server (same database on a database pattern as Force.com) - clive boulton

Google Search and their "mega package" of apps in it...is "to much" I think it's time for a "Browser" clear intuitive, great UX...fast,smooth... - Hessel van Tuinen

Yes. I want office on all devices. Visio on Android and iOS would be great. Project too. - Murray Macdonald

First time i got in touch with Apple Support in 5 years: After i installed Mavericks...I got the ahhhh, blue-screen, Microsoft feeling..;-( - Hessel van Tuinen

Are people still into so called cloud computing? - Frank Paynter

I have a lot of friends and relatives that are looking at Android devices now because they hate IOS7 -- "why do I have to use so many keystrokes to do stuff. They changed everything." - Charlie Isaacs

lets define "dead" again - Tina Chase Gillmor

eMail is dead - Charlie Isaacs

Frank: yes! :-) - Robert Scoble

oops maybe not so much - Charlie Isaacs

everything has a use case - Laura Norvig

Office remains a staple albeit unexciting. Everyone takes it for granted. Clients send me Office files all the time. - Murray Macdonald

Take your average large enterprise with 10,000 seats... every one of them has an Office license. - Frank Paynter

Notice MSR Dyrad discontinued, yet SQL server continues with Horntonworks Hadoop partnership. Bing incubating new family of graph databases (a definite maybe) - clive boulton

+1 Laura - Frank Paynter

people have very little idea whether thay have an app or a browser involved - Kevin Marks

Do you book your flights on an App or a website? - Murray Macdonald

yes - Frank Paynter

same discussion back in the days: fiber, dail up..faster...faster..;-) - Hessel van Tuinen

There are certain pain points, such as creating very sophisticated layout, etc. in word or excel that google docs and spreadsheets can't solve (yet). - Laura Norvig

I started playing with "ok google" for the google search app on iOS and its awesome; thier speech rec is AMAZING compared to siri its not even close - Matthew Voshell

This is your browser. This is your browser on drugs (camera pan to Internet Explorer) - Charlie Isaacs

If Google are so open, why are they forcing Users to join the 'dead' Google+ to leave a comment on YouTube? Kevin. - Moe Glitz

Sounds like Apple's old playground strategy - Frank Paynter

Moe: Single sign on makes sense to me. - Murray Macdonald

because youtube comments are a byword for toxic waste and trolling and they finally noticed? - Kevin Marks

Docs is great for working togehter, but formating wise.. it awful :/ - Matthew Voshell

Here kid, your office could use a few nice Macs... first one's free! - Frank Paynter

Lawyers will never stop using Office. Track changes is critical. - Murray Macdonald

because how much money would they earn by improving it? - Laura Norvig

They said that about WordPerfect, Murray! - John Taschek

Our custom workflow can be accessed on nearly any browser. We're a small business and it would be difficult and costly for us to develop apps that support all devices in use (BYOD). - Alex de Soto

Moe, because they want better comments - Scott Jordan

yes John Taschek is right. Why not more detailed duos environment form Google? - Tina Chase Gillmor

Y'all keep talking about Word and Google Docs but forget the fact that PowerPoint is still a very powerful/useful tool. - Nir Ben Yona

convenience over sophistication, is what the people crave, low latency UX apps win (usually) - clive boulton

True Murray & Kevin. But think they out to get more people on Google +. - Moe Glitz

Now that we know that the cloud has no privacy (NSA) can the legal types even use it for sensitive private data? Are Medical records in the cloud private? If I email a patent idea to a patent lawyer who uses gmail have I disclosed it? - Murray Macdonald

+1 Murray - Frank Paynter

You can't put Ads on Google Docs - Moe Glitz

I know a lot of app developers still planning their stuff in PowerPoint (besides the new tools). - Nir Ben Yona

How is Microsoft improving Office, especially for the Mac? - Alex de Soto

JOhn Taschek is right - Tina Chase Gillmor

John is correct, for example the Graphing element of the spreadsheet is bad - Scott Jordan

Nir Ben Yona... https://wireframe.cc/ - Frank Paynter

No ads on Google docs right? - Alex de Soto

Show me a word processor with comparable image handling. Despite it's shortcomings Image handling in Word is best of breed. I wish other document editors handled images as well as word. - Murray Macdonald

Lots of wireframe approaches but in my experience not a lot of people using Powerpoint - Frank Paynter

no ads on G+, but they will charge for it if you want it for your company - Kevin Marks

@Frank: Yeah, it's one of the *other* tools. - Nir Ben Yona

Google Docs is a hobby - Moe Glitz

@John - totally right absolutely on - Docs is a #FAIL on any platform - except for embeddable forms via spreadsheets...those rock...but I wouldn't try and do it via a phone. ;) - J.C. Bouvier

How many of the 1 billion users Facebook has are enterprise clients? - Scott Jordan

Murray, I think you want to go to Adobe for a competitive doc management and design alternative - Frank Paynter

Docs is great - Kevin Marks

in a Microsoft (windows/Office/SQLServer shop I worked , most people shared docs through Google Drive/Docs rather than "Sharepoint" - Dale Lature

Word is a hideous rathole where documents go to die - Kevin Marks

@Kevin - editing a doc in Google docs, vs. Word, is misery... - J.C. Bouvier

Frank: As a professional you need something your partners and clients have and can use. - Murray Macdonald

Kevin - Docs should be better. We should have to fall back on MS office - Tina Chase Gillmor

@Kevin - ha ha, yah - last Pages edition is pretty solid across the board and def better than Google's... - J.C. Bouvier

+1 Dale, true dat Murray - Frank Paynter

Bret Taylor talked about that this week - everyone has their own weird set of shortcuts they use in word - Kevin Marks

"<fill in any document management system here> is a hideous rathole where documents go to die" Kevin :) - Charlie Isaacs

Google Human Centipede - Matthew Voshell

except github, Charlie - Kevin Marks

im using that as a noun not a verb lol sorry - Matthew Voshell

What do you guys think of Bonofa's : cube7.com they are launching and already planned the iPO launch.. - Hessel van Tuinen

So where is Apple in all this Google / Microsoft Docs argument - Scott Jordan

I don't understand the youtube hookup at all. I now get TWO emails when someone comments on a video. Or something like that. - Laura Norvig

I don't think you can apply business rules and workflow to github last time I checked :) - Charlie Isaacs

Brit security dev pissed off with NSAs SSL on / SSL off games ups Googles crypto (still pissed) https://plus.google.com/u... - clive boulton

Who exactly chooses the next MS CEO? - Murray Macdonald

Bill G - clive boulton

Apple is making the default doc editor for iOS converge with MacOS - Kevin Marks

Ye adoes Gates come in Temp? - Matthew Voshell

Maybe Simon Cowell can do a Microsoft X-Factor Show. - Moe Glitz

Gates is already temping at Redmond - clive boulton

iOS internal apple converge? How incestuous is that? - Frank Paynter

that's its strength, charlie. Also, look at the salesforce github site sometime - it's an iceberg - 90% isn't public, still huge collboration - Kevin Marks

MS should buy Tesla - Frank Paynter

I love exchange and lync. Best of breed. - Murray Macdonald

shudder, Murray - Kevin Marks

What is better than Lync for voice, presence and desktop sharing? What is better than Exchange as a private enterprise email server? - Murray Macdonald

yes, Tesla is on fire right now. Oops, bad choice of words - Charlie Isaacs

does it work on anything I own, Murray? - Kevin Marks

I wish MSFT would make a Lync Mac desktop client... - J.C. Bouvier

they should hire Elop at MS since he knows how to manage failure so well #Nokia - Charlie Isaacs

+1 Charlie - Frank Paynter

Bill G is spending time working with the product groups during the transition. This speaks volumes. - clive boulton

Lync DOES have a mac desktop client. - Murray Macdonald

macos, android, chomeos ios - Kevin Marks

Hangouts works on all of them - Kevin Marks

and Windows - Kevin Marks

London Fucking Matters - Moe Glitz

Aren't China and India bigger markets? Where's the growth opportunity? - Murray Macdonald

Love it when Danny and Scoble go at it. Did they decide to wear green just for the show? It brings out the red in their faces. - Alex de Soto

At least Robert and Danny agreed on something today, they both chose green shirts - Charlie Isaacs

@Murray, didn't we have this convo, is that Skype? Cause I can't get it to work... - J.C. Bouvier

Rumble in the Building! - Moe Glitz

Gillmor Smackdown - Moe Glitz

MS is merging Skype and Lync. - Murray Macdonald

Qualcom - Frank Paynter

corners boys - Tina Chase Gillmor

Warner Brothers - Alex de Soto

OC kicks ass - Frank Paynter

HootSuite, Linux, PHP, EA, etc... - Murray Macdonald

San Francisco is a great testing playground. - Nir Ben Yona

Disney - Frank Paynter

Disney won LA first :) #Disneyland - Charlie Isaacs

Qualcom? - Frank Paynter

haha Frank my feed must be faster :) - Charlie Isaacs

"San Francisco. In line for posh coffee, people discuss their startups. Outside in the excrement-reeking street, sick people harass you." - Laurie Penny - Kevin Marks

You wanna test things with early adopters first, and that's why San Francisco is so important. - Nir Ben Yona

Qualcomm is cool. But hardly a consumer company. - Robert Scoble

No surprise if Marc Benioff is on Microsoft's shortlist, although Mark Hurd more likely to accept. - clive boulton

Ohhhhh... consumer goods! - Frank Paynter

As cheap as that Robert? - Moe Glitz

Google went to Kansas to do high speed internet. Always test in a smaller market. - Alex de Soto

Let's talk shoes! - Frank Paynter

i think Danny just explained himself how he and Robert were in agreement and differing on semantics - Dale Lature

I believe Yammer started in LA -- but they were bought by MS so oh well - Charlie Isaacs

Bollywood controls the film industry. They have more money and viewers. Might you mean the english speaking film industry? - Murray Macdonald

Murray: right. The market with most of the profit. - Robert Scoble

Whatever happened to IBM? - Frank Paynter

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technol... "New L.A. company Yammer wins TechCrunch50" - Charlie Isaacs

+1 Charlie - Frank Paynter

Does Samsung make those? - Frank Paynter

If not, Apple is already screwed too. - Frank Paynter

I know what I'd do if I were CEO of Microsoft: Step 1: Ensure that I have a HUGE severance package - Charlie Isaacs

Frank: right. Except that Apple has the marketshare in mobile. - Robert Scoble

I nominate Tim Cook for MSFT CEO spot. ;) - Alex de Soto

Yah, dump bing, focus offering Office365 for free on all mobile platforms and make a Xbox based tablet. - J.C. Bouvier

At least Yammer wrote Geddy before getting swolled up http://geddyjs.org/ - clive boulton

And chances are that Apple's stock is going up faster than Microsoft. - Robert Scoble

Elop has experience there, Charlie - Kevin Marks

Sadly, they've peaked, Robert. - Frank Paynter

Plus, working at Apple is cool. Working at Microsoft isn't. - Robert Scoble

Yammer started in San Francisco. - Robert Scoble

Frank: Apple has a watch and a TV product coming in next year. - Robert Scoble

+1 Kevin Robert - Charlie Isaacs

Robert: You're right about revenue but it isn't all about revenue, or the music industry would be all about Micheal Jackson. Hi-Hop came from the streets, not the boardroom, and now it's over 50%. There are more dimensions to an industry than revenue. (http://www.bubblews.com/news...) - Murray Macdonald

I have a watch and a TV. So do you. - Frank Paynter

It might have peaked but a lot of future there. More than Microsoft. - Robert Scoble

Frank: yes and I guarantee there will be lines for the Apple one. - Robert Scoble

I have a lot of watches in a drawer. I have time on 6 devices - Kevin Marks

Heh... sheeple - Frank Paynter

Sheeple are profitable. - Robert Scoble

:-) - Robert Scoble

How can I listen from my phone? - Brett Schulte

Absolutely... but would you really want to work for a company locked into serving them? Might as well make cornflakes. - Frank Paynter

they should be innovating with the xbox platform - Tina Chase Gillmor

+1 Tina - Frank Paynter

MS should go deep on wearables and cars. - Murray Macdonald

Think the Apple TV will be more about a Display, rather than just a TV. Display's can be used inside Buildings, Offices, etc. With a TV, you only think of the Sitting Room. - Moe Glitz

multi weirdness with the Scoble feed - Tina Chase Gillmor

Who's moving holographic display and 3d printing forward? - Frank Paynter

MS needs to shut down all of their Enterprise Software groups, they don't get it - Charlie Isaacs

3D printing is better supported on Windows than any other OS. It has a built-in 3D print manager. Linux open-source is also strong for 3D printing. - Murray Macdonald

I see huge layoffs coming at Microsoft, they need to cut back to where they can innovate in the enterprise by grafting consumer technologies for reactive applications. - clive boulton

Robert, that's calling Chernobylizing - Charlie Isaacs

Move the MS Enterprise team to Fukushima then? - Frank Paynter

No not huge layoff Clive. It would send a bad, loud signal. too risky - Tina Chase Gillmor

Hard to believe, but there's still a lot of room for innovation around PIM + CRM + messaging. Outlook could be very cool - I would focus on kicking Salesforce's ass on integration of CRM data into the PIM + like a Yammer - sprinkle liberally with personal marketing automation and reporting up to reestablish enterprise dominance. - J.C. Bouvier

Steve's political metaphor was spot on - Charlie Isaacs

Too bad MS attacked their poster-child Pivotal rather than buying them. - Murray Macdonald

that, dear friends, is how our Danny gives us a "level" preshow - Tina Chase Gillmor

ha, ha - Tina Chase Gillmor

Tina -- depends on Ballmer successor -- Mark Hurd? - clive boulton

Google drive syncs nicely across devices including Android. - Murray Macdonald

Hotel Microsoft. You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave. - Moe Glitz

haha Tina :) are you on the level? - Charlie Isaacs

I want to know what happened to Kevin's backyard? - Charlie Isaacs

#ShamelessDreamforcePlug - Charlie Isaacs

Working at MSR must be like Chinese water torture - clive boulton

Have a nice weekend all...l8r. - J.C. Bouvier

great show guys - Moe Glitz

you just did kevin - Moe Glitz

"The Rock is Crown property of the United Kingdom" -- wikipedia - Charlie Isaacs

T-Mo yay. - clive boulton

Nexus 5 is nice! Loving mine connected to Glass. Still use an iPhone 5s as my main phone. - Alex de Soto

Thanks y'all. - Murray Macdonald

Adios! Thanks. - Alex de Soto

have a great weekend, that was awesome :) - Charlie Isaacs

thanks everyone always - Tina Chase Gillmor

My backyard is fine, but someone nearby was using heavy machinery - Kevin Marks

:) Kevin you need one of those "Live filming in progress" hollywood signs - Charlie Isaacs

Thanks Steve..please visit my site http://icahberangas.blogspot.com - Amang Berangas

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