GIllmor Gang, recording live today 1pm PT participate at http://www.ustream.tv/gillmor...
        
        
        
          
            
              
              
                Nir Ben Yona,
              
            
              
              
                Robert Scoble,
              
            
              
              
                Tina Chase Gillmor,
              
            
              
              
                kevinstephen,
              
            
              
              
                Qasir Z Khan,
              
            
              
              
                ebru,
              
            
              
              
                Amir,
              
            
              
              
                clive boulton,
              
            
              
              
                Ludwig Ederle,
              
            
              
              
                Jerome Hughes,
              
            
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                Rob Underwood
              
            
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              hi there
               - Ludwig Ederle
            
          
        
          
            
              Greetings
               - John Taschek
            
          
        
          
            
              im here
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              cool,john is  back
               - Ludwig Ederle
            
          
        
          
            
              Good to see you here Ludwig!
               - John Taschek
            
          
        
          
            
              Waiting to talk about geeky stuff again. Always fun.
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              hello all
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              Is anyone going to see Spiderman?
               - John Taschek
            
          
        
          
            
              hello folks!
               - Tina Chase Gillmor
            
          
        
          
            
              onboarding
               - Tina Chase Gillmor
            
          
        
          
            
              We can all check in on Swarm :)
               - John Taschek
            
          
        
          
            
              Good afternoon. John: no, Bambi Francisco is coming here for beautiful Half Moon Bay and some wine. Last Friday we had six winemakers drinking with us. What will happen tonight? Who knows?
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              John, please take me to see Spiderman
               - Tina Chase Gillmor
            
          
        
          
            
              How's Bambi's company doing?
               - John Taschek
            
          
        
          
            
              OK - can Steve watch the family?
               - John Taschek
            
          
        
          
            
              Scoble, I need some good wine. Maybe I'll see you later.
               - Tina Chase Gillmor
            
          
        
          
            
              Yes, Robert - save some. Sharing is Caring!
               - John Taschek
            
          
        
          
            
              steve will invoke his Spidey sense
               - Tina Chase Gillmor
            
          
        
          
            
              Missing all the good times
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              can someone post the tech crunch or ustream  show link for tweeting please
               - Tina Chase Gillmor
            
          
        
          
        
          
            
              hello, doesn't look like usual though, all black instead of window shade or test pattern?
               - Jerome Hughes
            
          
        
          
            
              Oh good! John T. is taking me to see Spiderman!
               - Tina Chase Gillmor
            
          
        
          
            
              Glass Onion
               - Moe Glitz
            
          
        
          
            
              "twitter is dead" is the new "blogging is dead"
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              John B has a new thumb mic
               - Tina Chase Gillmor
            
          
        
          
            
              ;-)
               - Tina Chase Gillmor
            
          
        
          
            
              he's talking into his Dick Tracy wristwatch
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              I bought Twitter stock yesterday
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              is that net? they've always had a high churn
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              Twitter should be your Lifestyle Ticker Stream. But it ain't for most people
               - Moe Glitz
            
          
        
          
            
              comcast? that would kill them
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              Comcast? Oh noes...
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              I have gotten my news from Twitter since 2006
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              Twitter's market cap is about $22 billion. What's App was sold for $19 billion.
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              Same here Francine. Twitter killed Google News
               - Moe Glitz
            
          
        
          
            
              When will it get cheap enough that Google or Apple will buy Twitter?
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              Ina Fried on Twitter 27m ago: "Apple has scooped up LuxVue, a Santa Clara, Calif.-based startup working on low-power LED technology.'
               - Alex de Soto
            
          
        
          
            
              Twitter is the Peoples' News Network
               - Tina Chase Gillmor
            
          
        
          
            
              Very true Robert. Google really needs to buy Twitter
               - Moe Glitz
            
          
        
          
            
              Hiya :-)
               - Ian Waring
            
          
        
          
            
              we did presidential debate hackling in irc in 2004: http://epeus.blogspot.com/2004...
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              Thank you to John for a copy of the Shareholder Book - lovely read!
               - Ian Waring
            
          
        
          
            
              they need to stop breaking DMs
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              it does if you click discover
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              yeah, my DMs are touch and go.
               - clive boulton
            
          
        
          
            
              Try Discovery link, Robert.
               - christina sponselli
            
          
        
          
            
              "Crazed streams"
               - clive boulton
            
          
        
          
            
              Just need to update Aaron S's Twitter Convo page that Kevin recommended - just needs new API fix
               - Ian Waring
            
          
        
          
            
              That would make Twitter the ultimate "listen to any of these named folks around any water cooler convo they interact with". Pure gold!
               - Ian Waring
            
          
        
          
            
              Twitter needs to be unbundled into 4 Multiplex Apps. If they don't then the door is open for someone else to win big
               - Moe Glitz
            
          
        
          
            
              I stumble into great pmarca interactions early in the UK morning by chance
               - Ian Waring
            
          
        
          
            
              pmarca blocked me on twitter so I have to read him on facebook
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              @Kevin - Why?
               - Nir Ben Yona
            
          
        
          
            
              I hate when the Twitter and G+ notifications bust into my music listening. End up having to turn on "Do Not Disturb" and "Mute On" when I'm listening to music.
               - Alex de Soto
            
          
        
          
            
              here's the show link on TC http://techcrunch.com/2014...
               - Tina Chase Gillmor
            
          
        
          
            
              'cos I was complaining about VCs not funding women
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              Social is maturing & turning the corner. http://valleywag.gawker.com/faceboo...
               - christina sponselli
            
          
        
          
            
              Interesting.
               - Nir Ben Yona
            
          
        
          
            
              Hearing Goog's srsly going mobile first. Training "a few" engineers on Android.
               - clive boulton
            
          
        
          
            
              Tweetbot lists in different columns are the best I can do
               - Tom Guarriello
            
          
        
          
            
              Most influential women in Bay Area: Just out - http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfran...
               - John Taschek
            
          
        
          
            
              Robert S -- do you curate and prune who your follow on Twitter like you do on Facebook? Also, I'm guessing you are not subject to the 2001 follower limit like most of us are... that, in a way, is a good thing because it forces a prune and I find because of it my Twitter feed much more useful than my Facebook feed.
               - Rob Underwood
            
          
        
          
            
              Rob: yes I do.
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              got it, ok.
               - Rob Underwood
            
          
        
          
            
              Facebook is FAR superior in my experience but then I've put the time into Facebook to train my feed.
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              I follow >4000 people on twitter so I'm partway to robert but I have a smaller filter on my phone/tablet
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              I am at the 2000 limit since I only have 1050 followers or so. So every time I want to follow someone new I need to cut someone else. Frustrating a bit, but it keep my feed focused.
               - Rob Underwood
            
          
        
          
            
              Bret Taylor's vision for shifting mobile multitasking back to the users control I prefer to deep linking http://backchannel.org/blog...
               - clive boulton
            
          
        
          
            
              I only follow about 1650 people on Twitter -- mostly journos and friends. I have a great tweetstream
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              Francine: I have many lists on Twitter. They are OK but still VERY noisy.
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              (Fewer than 800 people on each list)
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              they want to rout the net
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              Kevin's FB post w/ video https://plus.google.com/1064227...
               - clive boulton
            
          
        
          
            
              I need to do a fuller post on this
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              Keep in mind I personally like the noise, but I'm a news junkie (and so are you). Normal people? Not so much. Just want to see a few good things.
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              And I +TOTALLY+ disagree with Kevin about not wanting to see stuff from family and friends.
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              I'm a news junkie but I don't want my stream moving so fast that I can't follow it, like yours does Robert
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              you're missing what I meant, robert.
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              Francine: my real feed (notifications) moves a LOT slower because I only have 60 people on that.
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              it's that you want some of that, but fb has blown up to too many people it would be rude to unfriend
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              they want to Microsoft not Yahoo
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              There are LOTS of ways to unfollow without unfriending. https://www.facebook.com/RobertS... covers them.
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              Too much tweet noise, information is not consumable / actionable
               - clive boulton
            
          
        
          
            
              Kevin, you need to limit the number of people who show in your newsfeed
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              Mobile crossed desktop last year. Now more mobile use
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              the sun is setting in the lower west side of Manhattan according to John B's light ;-)
               - Tina Chase Gillmor
            
          
        
          
            
              I don't mind fb being more for family, I just find twitter better fro things in general
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              Kevin: I used to agree with you. No longer.
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              Move Fast and Break The Web
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              Kevin: here is a Facebook list of Tech News. https://www.facebook.com/lists... It's FAR better than same on Twitter.
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              Would love to see a little slider with "show me more" / "show me fewer" items from this Twitter account.
               - Alex de Soto
            
          
        
          
            
              Yet even Facebook is FAR from perfect.
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              like on G+, Alex?
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              Francine, shouldn't the missing algorithm limit number of people in newsfeed
               - clive boulton
            
          
        
          
            
              That's not a product focused company, it's a customer focuses company
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              Right Kevin. Maybe...
               - Alex de Soto
            
          
        
          
            
              too many knobs to set
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              feel the love -> smell the glove
               - Jerome Hughes
            
          
        
          
            
              Maybe, Clive.
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              Facebook will probably buy Stripe.
               - Nir Ben Yona
            
          
        
          
            
              I don't put anything on the internet that I don't want to see in the NYTimes or Valleywag
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              I would like to have some tweak controls over my twitter news feed, not limiting viewers
               - clive boulton
            
          
        
          
            
              Certainly well above govt - my post earlier today: Data Sharing: Who do you trust? http://www.ianwaring.com/2014...
               - Ian Waring
            
          
        
          
            
              and on youtube?
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              G+ is login credentials...
               - Ian Waring
            
          
        
          
            
              My thread about this on G+ drew many Google + engineers assuring me it wasn't going away. But what do they know
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              G+ has about 7.5 million daily active users.
               - Nir Ben Yona
            
          
        
          
            
              I believe the people who think Hangouts and Photos will survive and the social network feed will go
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              Re G+:Danny Crichton wrote an interesting former insider POV here:  http://techcrunch.com/2014...
               - Alex de Soto
            
          
        
          
            
              the "I was at google for 6 weeks" one?
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              That's what Google is: plumbing. BTW the guy who wrote that TC post was just an intern for a summer. Hardly an insider
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              if you are signed in to Google and you post a video to YouTube, does that constitute using Google +?
               - Matt Terenzio
            
          
        
          
            
              Top HOA engineer bailed ahead of Vic https://www.linkedin.com/profile...
               - clive boulton
            
          
        
          
            
              Hangout bundle stuff - i want to text my wife to say i'm on my way, it sends her an invite to a hangout. Fail!
               - Ian Waring
            
          
        
          
            
              That was an interesting piece, Alex
               - Tom Guarriello
            
          
        
          
            
              A whole "3 months" Kevin! ;)
               - Alex de Soto
            
          
        
          
            
              if you are signed in to Google and you post a video to YouTube, does that constitute using Google +?
               - Matt Terenzio
            
          
        
          
            
              According to vendor I work with, Google+ doesn't have public API. Definitely doesn't help expose platform.
               - christina sponselli
            
          
        
          
            
              yes, Vic crushed API efforts. That may change now
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              HOA group videos should be the killer business meeting use case, but isn't used by corporates.
               - clive boulton
            
          
        
          
            
              secret sums itself up: https://www.secret.ly/p...
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              hey chat folks.... do we need to cover something else?
               - Tina Chase Gillmor
            
          
        
          
            
              Vine trying to be YouTube of short videos, Tina?
               - christina sponselli
            
          
        
          
            
              Sign Microsoft's changing is engineers flowing back to Redmond from FB/Goog
               - clive boulton
            
          
        
          
            
              No, but I wish we had more info about the future of G+
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              Francine: his thinking matches what I've heard from other insiders.
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              Francine: I agree. I wish Googlewasn't so secretive.
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              Exactly. GOOG is the least customer-focused company of all.
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              Francine:I have been through this before: with Reader. I knew two years before it was killed that it was killed internally. Google never makes these announcements. I'm sure the truth of it will continue leaking out.
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              There are rabid G+ engineers in my thread about Vic leaving -- all insisting G+ is fine. One of them is the head of product or something
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              redaer was not so much killed as ignored internally
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              *reader
               - Kevin Marks
            
          
        
          
            
              I still miss Reader. Tried to replace it with Digg, but not the same
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              Feedly works quite nice.
               - Todd Hoff
            
          
        
          
            
              +1 Todd
               - Tom Guarriello
            
          
        
          
            
              Re topics, I was guessing there might be a quick discussion of Foursquare/Swarm.
               - Rob Underwood
            
          
        
          
            
              Totally, Ian. I am always trying to send a text and the screen that invites people to a Hangout
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              What role do those G+ people see it having in the real world, Francine?
               - Tom Guarriello
            
          
        
          
            
              Tom, the conversation didn't go there
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              Gotcha, Francine. Have you tried Feedly?
               - Tom Guarriello
            
          
        
          
            
              I'm just biding my time in the GOOG ecosystem until the new iPhone. I'm done with Glass, so I no longer need my Nexus 5
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              Big G is defragging more than meets the eye.
               - clive boulton
            
          
        
          
            
              I have tried Feedly
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              Flipboard has killed RSS readers for me. Oh, wait, it's a reader too.
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              Speaking of NewTek: Tim's Vermeer movie, about the NewTek/Tricaster founder's quest to figure out how the Dutch artist created such incredible paintings  http://www.imdb.com/title...
               - dan farber
            
          
        
          
            
              We've had the FLipboard convo too many times, Robert
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              I really really really like Zite and hope Flipboard won't ruin it
               - Rob Underwood
            
          
        
          
            
              Thank you Tina!
               - Alex de Soto
            
          
        
          
            
              Francine: and Flipboard keeps getting better, too.
               - Robert Scoble
            
          
        
          
            
              Thanks Tina
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              OK Robert, I'll try it again
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              Jesus, Steve
               - Francine Hardaway
            
          
        
          
            
              If the show ever goes off air, pls soundcloud the Gillmor Gang tune https://soundcloud.com/adamsin...
               - clive boulton
            
          
        
          
            
              great....
               - Qasir Z Khan