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May 23, 2014
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Waiting for the famous call. Today I'm in Austin, Texas.
- Robert Scoble
3-2-1?
- Tom Guarriello
waiting for the famous test pattern ;)
- Jerome Hughes
I'm here for a while
- Francine Hardaway
and there it is!
- Jerome Hughes
Just got called, so a few minutes yet.
- Robert Scoble
Hello from Cornwall, UK
- Ian Waring
Hi Ian! Show is starting...
- Robert Scoble
Happy Friday!
- J.C. Bouvier
I love Alexia
- Francine Hardaway
Alexia getting the SG rookie treatment!
- Tom Guarriello
dude, that Texas comment was harsh. We do have internets in Austin
- Chris Hale
google fibre is coming
- Kevin Marks
No one can say what they don't know
- Francine Hardaway
yeah, and I got notice from TW i am getting a free bump to 300 megabit package this summer
- Chris Hale
Alexia is a great reporter. Listen to her try to find out
- Francine Hardaway
Be smart, Robert!
- Tom Guarriello
No chance. That's such a bad alternative
- Francine Hardaway
Pick one: IBM, Cisco, Hewlett-Packard, Google, Amazon.com, EMC, VMWare, Red Hat or Dell.
- Alex de Soto
Be careful Robert
- Francine Hardaway
Google is "dumping" cloud space
- Francine Hardaway
What's Dropbox going to do?
- Tom Guarriello
redundant array of inexpensive cloud services
- Kevin Marks
dogs chasing the cat here
- Kevin Marks
always liked the name alexia. Dont know why
- Chris Hale
Nice sound effect about internal Apple conflict, Kevin!
- Tom Guarriello
Was I OK.
- Robert Scoble
?
- Robert Scoble
Robert - yes
- Keith Teare
Nice tapdancing, Robert
- Tom Guarriello
yes
- Francine Hardaway
Good job Robert. Alexia's smile could have done you in. ;)
- Alex de Soto
Anyone see Robert's old friend @chamath on Bloomberg TV stating that Apple is screwed
- Moe Glitz
i saw that
- Chris Hale
Right Kevin. I will go back to IOS if there's a bigger screen
- Francine Hardaway
Can we read anything about Beats into the Re/Code #CodeCon speakers list which includes Eddy Cue & Iovine? http://recode.net/events...
- J.C. Bouvier
I want to see a "gorgeous" 4K display from Apple.
- Alex de Soto
Good catch, JC
- Francine Hardaway
what?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Alex - the Dell UP2414Q is actually nice on a Mac
- Keith Teare
i wonder if people are smart enough to see through the marketing hype of a beats/apple pairing
- Chris Hale
If Apple is screwed then what about Microsoft
- Moe Glitz
how does this keep happening?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Keith: Noted.
- Alex de Soto
i mean if people will be smart
- Chris Hale
im perplexed as to how this chat keeps spliting
- Tina Chase Gillmor
JC - we can read that Kara and Walt have pulling power
- Keith Teare
wave to the bigger chat here. ;-)
- Ian McGee
Two chats going on?
- Tom Guarriello
Stay here...
- Francine Hardaway
Angela will take that Beats brand big...
- Tom Guarriello
I think Apple's iWatch is wuickly becoming irrelevant.
- Francine Hardaway
Don't think Johnny Ive is too keen on this Beats deal
- Moe Glitz
get others off the other chat and point them here. thx
- Tina Chase Gillmor
robert will talk about signaling
- Tina Chase Gillmor
signal, signal, signal
- Tina Chase Gillmor
isn't the big screen iphone a "me too" move?
- Tom Guarriello
The big screen phone is not enough to boost interest in Apple. Beats Music + iWatch would be a winner.
- Alex de Soto
Unless Johnny can make his own version of the Beats Headphone.
- Moe Glitz
see if the iwatch uses siri, i think it will be a dissapointment
- Chris Hale
I have just had nothing but frustration with siri
- Chris Hale
Chris: we'll see. I don't like Siri either for the most part
- Robert Scoble
@Kteare, fair enough...
- J.C. Bouvier
we need to get the chat in one spot and I'm getting confused as to which one is which. Please get everyone to center on the one that the show members are on
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Wearables are over for now. That iWatch would have to do something amazing
- Francine Hardaway
The iWatch may have its own Health and Fitness Apps Store
- Moe Glitz
I guess I mean to try and articulate if that is the primary input method for a iwatch is siri,which makes sense, I feel like people will buy it but will end up using it as a watch with a cool animated face and thats really it.
- Chris Hale
Most Apple Products usually have their own Eco-systems
- Moe Glitz
Since it will make you want to throw it through a window everytime you talk to it
- Chris Hale
Other tangentially interesting item re: Apple + music is the idea they're going to build 'high res' audio into iOS 8...clear they're thinking about how they improve their hold on music...which I think is very smart...if they bundle a better set of Beats build headphones w/i devices...I'm w/Keith, they answer the question: how do we keep people buying our gear...
- J.C. Bouvier
they've had high res music for over a decade JC
- Kevin Marks
on the other hand, I would totally love an iwatch that fixes all the issues I have with notifications on my apple devices.
- Chris Hale
OS X and iOS have floating point audio as default
- Kevin Marks
ok here
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Siri is not usable. Google's voice to text is barely usable
- Francine Hardaway
Future iPods will be built inside future versions of Beats Headphones.
- Moe Glitz
@Kevin - My audiophile friends want FLAC or equivalent...Personally, I agree, Apple Lossless is fine...but not to my audiophile friends.
- J.C. Bouvier
Beats did it
- Tom Guarriello
raw audio is better; apple has shipped their own lossless codec for over a decade too
- Kevin Marks
Beats is a rap/urban brand
- Tom Guarriello
@scoble, i dont necesarily agree with your last point. Beats has been a hot potato for years. First it was put in HP, then it went to HTC. I don't think it made much of a difference in those devices
- Chris Hale
Dr. Dre...every suburban kid wants Beats
- Tom Guarriello
they should have put google glass on a kardashian
- Chris Hale
Totally. Josh Topolsky is wonderful, but not cool
- Francine Hardaway
my suburban kids want Sennheisers
- Kevin Marks
Sorry for the friday humor
- Chris Hale
Not the ones on the NYC subway, Kevin
- Tom Guarriello
google glass on real housewives so they can have PoV video
- Kevin Marks
Correct, Robert. It's not something to wear on your face all the time
- Francine Hardaway
Remember those first iPod ads...
- Tom Guarriello
Agree about the bigger screen; lots of pent up demand among Apple users. Not sure it attracts Android & normals though.
- Ian McGee
Can they ramp any further? 60M units?
- J.C. Bouvier
Robert I think you wearing Google glass was a wise decision on googles part. I think you having a strong opinion on it will help it fill in the gaps eventually. You are a critic who don't praise crap products and I think pontificating about the possibilities of what glass could possibly do is probably one of the big things they probably got from your beta testing
- Chris Hale
hi Mary wherever you are
- Tina Chase Gillmor
iOS human interface needs to be carefully modified for iWatch. What have we heard about that? Or will there be an iWatchOS? Would Shaun Lind (UX Designer at Beats Music) be an asset to Ive's team?
- Alex de Soto
now whether they do something about it remains to be seen
- Chris Hale
Google is refusing to put out their mobile numbers even though the SEC just asked for them
- mary hodder
They say: the definition of mobile is changing so much.. we can't give a number
- mary hodder
@Kevin, great point re: medium/iOS dev.
- J.C. Bouvier
it's always about size isn't it?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
This was also associated with their saying they would run ADs on NEST.. and that 'in the home' advertising is a kind of 'mobile'.. associated with their other mobile stuff
- mary hodder
Chris Hale: thanks, I see your point about Glass
- Robert Scoble
Android's O/S is all over the place. When iOS 8 is released, almost 80% of iPhone Users will upgrade at once
- Moe Glitz
i just wish glass was a little cheaper. I am taking a gamble buying glass in the next couple of weeks and am praying they dont release a new version at Google IO
- Chris Hale
Chris Hale: I would wait unless you need to build an app for Google IO
- Robert Scoble
Chris Hale: of course I could sell you mine. :-)
- Robert Scoble
Beyond retina, which doubled density (not resolution) there are only 2 real sizes, the iPhone 5 and the rest ?!
- Simon Benvenutto
I would totally buy it!
- Chris Hale
17% of android <4.0
- Kevin Marks
Steve never believes people are on Android
- Francine Hardaway
@Robert let me know if you do end up wanting to part ways with your Glass.
- Chris Hale
Anyone who buys their own phone is on Android.
- Francine Hardaway
Also.. foreign phone users don't get subsidized phones via contract model used in the US
- mary hodder
Is Robert holding a knife? :)
- J.C. Bouvier
Censorship!
- Simon Benvenutto
Justified. ;-)
- Ian McGee
I think I heard Steve the other day saying he was going to get an android phone - maybe and additional one... not sure about that tho, Francine
- Tina Chase Gillmor
If you get a Nexus 5 you will have a good Android experience. There's no crapware
- Francine Hardaway
Robert, please put the knife down!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
It's a pen, not a knife
- Robert Scoble
I'm not surprised to hear from Alexia say the global TC audience is Android...
- J.C. Bouvier
oh,.....never mind!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
According to Chitika in March 2014: "Looking at the Web traffic from all North American users of both operating systems, iOS users generate 65% of the total, and Android users the remaining 35%.
- Alex de Soto
anyone going to an english speaking conference overseas is also affluent
- Kevin Marks
I was just bustin' Robert! I glanced up at my TV and saw what looked like cutlery...my bad...
- J.C. Bouvier
And what versions of Android?
- Moe Glitz
Bob Dole always held a pen when he met people so folks wouldn't shake the hand that doesn't work well
- Tina Chase Gillmor
https://developer.android.com/about... has versions
- Kevin Marks
the iPhone is def toooooo small now
- Tina Chase Gillmor
They sell 45 million iPhones a quarter, right? That's a lot of elites.
- Tom Guarriello
"you have to file down your fingers" - Steve Jobs
- Kevin Marks
my experie4nce in "tech circles" is that there is a much higher percentage of Android users than in the general public, so that's quite different......many people who are NOT tech people have gotten an iphone early and stayed with it, and the open source software fans and believers have basically insisted upon being on Android......
- Dale Lature
my mother wanted to get one but she just couldn't go for the smallness of it all and i don't blame her
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Oh no, Steve is announcing an Apple branded Surface !!
- Simon Benvenutto
Any thoughts on the NYT Innovation doc leak from the gang?
- J.C. Bouvier
Dale, that's my perception
- Francine Hardaway
also Android AOSP doesn't show in those google figures
- Kevin Marks
That 1% is Bill Gates
- Moe Glitz
Dale and Francine: I can tell you that isn't true in aggregate.
- Robert Scoble
Alexia, did you say those were global or NA device traffic #'s for TC?
- J.C. Bouvier
Surface will sink
- Moe Glitz
I struggle to describe anything with a fan inside it a tablet...
- Simon Benvenutto
Robert, I dont have reason to doubt that...just surprised based on my experience
- Dale Lature
Also Seattle
- Kevin Marks
but I think people want to use tablet but they want even more productive
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Closing the loop, from Alexia: Percentage of TC mobile readers by device: iOS 58%, Android 39%, Windows 1%
- J.C. Bouvier
Secret is bullshit - I think
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yah Tina, I think for tech rumors, caveat emptor in Secret...
- J.C. Bouvier
I will have to admit I experience many many more lockups on my Galaxy s3 Android 4.3 than I did when I had an iphone (2009-2012)
- Dale Lature
I am already bored by scret
- Francine Hardaway
Francine, Secret = not enough DAUs...
- J.C. Bouvier
secret launched on android this week
- Kevin Marks
Oh, that will help...
- J.C. Bouvier
Ads on thermostats, Google? Really??
- Tom Guarriello
now it's full of iOS poeple bitching about android people
- Kevin Marks
haha
- Chris Hale
@Kevin, ha ha...some things never change.
- J.C. Bouvier
And full of Thais
- Francine Hardaway
very interesting metaphor about rolling over a company in bed
- Chris Hale
Keith's got himself way off center
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Yes, Tina, but his analysis is spot on
- Tom Guarriello
I read Techcrunch on Flipboard via Twitter . I don't read Techcrunch on the web
- Moe Glitz
So long as I am on the left of center its OK
- Keith Teare
did I hear Alexia inviting everyone to TC Hq to party? ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Ha ha...
- J.C. Bouvier
Completely agree about keeping subjectivity visible. Jay Rosen's View from Nowhere argument...
- Ian McGee
that sounds lilke fun
- Chris Hale
talked about Swarm on G3 a little bit too
- Tina Chase Gillmor
the party idea
- Chris Hale
I think this Grant McCracken Wired piece sponsored by Netflix is an interesting example of new models of commercial/content http://www.wired.com/partner...
- Tom Guarriello
haven't they already forced us to use messenger?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Swarm is interesting, but I still alert based on the previous meaning of swarm (large group of checkins). I'll get used to it.
- Ian McGee
Yahoo wants all of their Services to remain in their main Apps. That's if you want to download it in the first place
- Moe Glitz
"you're flying .. through the air.. in a chair.."
- mary hodder
Swarm is nice
- Kevin Marks
back in my day, the internets made screeching sounds. Thats how you knew it was good!
- Chris Hale
Really? When I grew up? ;-)
- Ian McGee
Mary... it's a great bit, Isn't it?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Lol, I had the first TV in my 1st grade class...
- Tom Guarriello
Everything's Amazing and Nobody's Happy by Louis CK: http://www.youtube.com/watch...
- mary hodder
there you go
- Tina Chase Gillmor
I'm scared to death about the Direct TV deal.
- Ian McGee
a must watch
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google can though
- Kevin Marks
trivia question: is it true Techcrunch started out of socialtext offices where there was a barcamp meetup and the idea came about. I believe Ross Mayfield was the CEO of socialtext.
- Michael Roberts
NBC $4.38 billion through 2020 Olympics
- Tom Guarriello
Twitch?
- Kevin Marks
doesn't sound right Michael
- Kevin Marks
The Living Room is dying for kids
- Moe Glitz
Phillip DeFranco
- Tom Guarriello
Moe that is SO true!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
it's around the right timeframe, but I haven't heard that- ask Keith
- Kevin Marks
Vine celebs are unreal
- Ian McGee
Phillip DeFranco - yes!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
my 17 yo son spends at least 70 percent of his screen fun time on Twitch
- Da
I know Phil. He's brilliant.
- Tom Guarriello
Kevin - go for the Twitch topic
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Check Marcus Johns, Cody Johns, Meghan McCarthy. Making real money with sponsored posts as well...
- Ian McGee
Louis CK sold his Beacon concert for $5 over 2 years ago. So smart...
- Tom Guarriello
Tom G - My daughter is a BIG fan of Phil's
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Watered down or not, Louie is a great show!
- Alex de Soto
CK is one funny Mexican
- Da
I met Phil in 2008 at YouTube. His girlfriend (now wife) and I were on the first YouTube Community Council together, when he was still SexyPhil on YT. Saw how smart he was then.
- Tom Guarriello
danah boyd talks about how kids share their devices all the time.. where as adults usually are solitary on their devices.. steve's kitchen not withstanding
- mary hodder
Phil is probably going to end up on Comedy Central soon: https://www.youtube.com/user...
- Alex de Soto
Is Vine re-enacted snapchats?
- Kevin Marks
Mary - agree. Kids are experiencing much on their small devices and that's their norm
- Tina Chase Gillmor
And, The Beatles refused to play US concerts in front of segregated audiences. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news...
- Tom Guarriello
shred for sure
- Tina Chase Gillmor
shared for sure
- Tina Chase Gillmor
The Beatles and Dylan made the Album into a packaged Art Form
- Moe Glitz
this vine story is interesting: http://www.rollingstone.com/culture...
- Kevin Marks
Apple should make Big Displays for everywhere, rather then a Living Room TV.
- Moe Glitz
Alexia isn't old!
- Kevin Marks
Most of the colleges have their own secret-style pages/groups/etc
- Ian McGee
I'm now watching my 10 year old grandson's Instagram
- Tom Guarriello
My god...Steve is so clueless to pop culture. How is that possible? I am the same age as Steve and I live in the present, not the past. (Its Jack White, Steve. He is amazing)
- Thomas Rector
I have 2 sons who can join in
- Kevin Marks
I LOVE Alexis. Her comments are so timely and insightful. Invite her back!
- Thomas Rector
Thomas, agree!
- Robert Scoble
Pinterest is a bubble waiting to pop
- Moe Glitz
Alexia Fanclub
- Kevin Marks
I bet Ella is watching Phil DeFranko
- mary hodder
Thomas - we will get her when we can
- Tina Chase Gillmor
GG is bringing in a great cast of new conversationalists. +10
- Tom Guarriello
Mary yes that's the guy
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Marques Brownlee is another one.
- Robert Scoble
I agree. Alexia is a great addition. Very sharp
- Chris Hale
Lord help us...we're emulating Minecraft!
- Tom Guarriello
+1 for Alexia
- J.C. Bouvier
you should have called it the Gillmor Girls and waited for the lawsuit to publicise it
- Kevin Marks
Watched G3 today. The hat ladies were great.
- Alex de Soto
+++ for Alexia.
- Alex de Soto
G3 now on my list. Way to go, Tina.
- Tom Guarriello
I just googled G3 and cannot find your show. Clue?
- Thomas Rector
Have a nice weekend all!
- J.C. Bouvier
rackspace
- Jerome Hughes
Thanks everyone!
- Nir Ben Yona
Bye
- Alex de Soto
Great show.
- Ian McGee
Thanks for the G3 kudos y'all.
- Tina Chase Gillmor