Gillmor Gang, Live Recording Session at 1p

How's it looking? I'm ready to come in... - Kevin Marks

I'm waiting for the call too. - Robert Scoble

try me again, I switched which network I'm on here - Kevin Marks

:) 16 people are tuned in. - Kathleen Hassinger

Is there a link to the Benioff video? - Jim Posner

Benioff keynote: http://mediazone.brighttalk.com/comm... - John Taschek

Also Windows7 sold so well, they can't count on the pressure buildup as with XP/Vista. - Ian McGee

I have Windows on Parallels on my mac, but it wires down 3G of RAM when I launch it - Kevin Marks

thanks for the link, John - Jerome Hughes

they usurped TWiL to watch Blizzcon - so I had to leave that show to come here - will have to download it later ... this is actually better than lawyers (sorry Denise) ;-) - Xenophrenia

Ballmer keynote is here: http://mediazone.brighttalk.com/event... - John Taschek

I hope you guys cover the loss of Ray Ozzie @MS and the perils of corporate culture mismatch. - Jim Posner

Ballmer has no vision. He's a salesman running a tech company. Make Ray Ozzie or someone like that the CEO - Stephen Pickering

@Stephen: Right -- all the way back when he was selling it on TV. - John Taschek

Anyone remember this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - John Taschek

cloud appliance market is really starting to get interesting..wonder what Gartner had to say about that. - Jim Posner

I love the Mac. These days, I'm less beholden to Microsoft because of business needs. MS Access and Outlook are the only tools I really need from Microsoft today. - Alex de Soto

Jim: what kind of appliances are catching your attention? - Robert Scoble

Ha @John that's hilarious! Thanks for the link. - Stephen Pickering

cast iron, cloudburst, datapower are a few on my radar but many more are coming on the market - Jim Posner

@John very funny! It slices...it dices... - Alex de Soto

Robert - my coffeepot had my attention this morning ... *sorry - I couldn't help myself* ... - Xenophrenia

Xenophrenia: heh! Mine too! - Robert Scoble

Layer 7 is suppose to be doing some interesting stuff as well - Jim Posner

Money is power - they don't want to let that go ... ;-) - Xenophrenia

unfortunately it is leaving them whether they want it to or not (power that is) - Xenophrenia

I agree. - Robert Scoble

Damn they should have kept WebTV and iterated that all these years. By now it would kick ass - Stephen Pickering

XBox running Netflix is the closest MSFT have - Kevin Marks

Kevin: but a $59 Roku does that very well. So why buy a $300 Xbox? - Robert Scoble

They should start a huge investment fund and become a holding company that pays dividends. They are already pay dividends so they're part of the way there. - John Taschek

AppleTV lets me play any content on any of my Macs onto my TV... - Rob La Gesse

But MS doesn't iterate quickly with most products. Exceptions: Xbox and possibly docs.com (doubtful as long as they tie to commercial product.) Rest of the world is on yearly or faster. - Ian McGee

To play games, Robert. duh. - Kevin Marks

Slingbox for data-why does it have to be rocket science? - Jim Posner

I didn't like that you had to have a gold account on XBox to get Netflix - (I don't game) - I now have a $400 Acer Aspire with HDMI attached to our plasma ... - Xenophrenia

Kevin: most users don't play games. - Robert Scoble

Content needs to follow the user: on mobile, on TV, on computer, on the coffee pot... - Alex de Soto

most 3rd party boxes plugged into TVs play games. - Kevin Marks

Robert, the video game industry is a lot bigger than the movie industry. - Rob La Gesse

Kevin: really? I thought most third party boxes are DVD drives. - Robert Scoble

Rob: not true. In money, yes, but NOT in numbers of users. - Robert Scoble

oh no - not on the coffee pot - I'd be glued to it for far too long if it had Netflix ;-) ... especially when I first wake up and I'm easily captivated - Xenophrenia

Looks like Netflix is going to the streaming only model in the US. - Jim Posner

Rob: remember, you can see a movie for $8, but a Halo copy is $59. - Robert Scoble

well, the game boxes tend to be DVD or blu-ray drives too - Kevin Marks

RObert - I don;t spend 200 hours on a movie though... - Rob La Gesse

Kevin: it is in my home, but we're not the average consumers. - Robert Scoble

hourly rate is often better for games - Kevin Marks

Now Netflix is an app on the Wii. Don't need a disc to play. - Alex de Soto

Rob: the most played game on my Xbox is stuff like Zuma. On iPad? Angry Birds. - Robert Scoble

Content providers are lucky more people don't know computers very well - or more would just do what I do .. - Xenophrenia

I'll be glad when blu-ray discs are gone. The whole loading experience sucks. - Alex de Soto

Rob: I'm not saying games aren't a huge industry. They are. But if Microsoft wants to grow market they've gotta get non-gamers. - Robert Scoble

Casual gaming on the xbox seems to be non-existent..xbox arcade is not very compelling - Jim Posner

They have to get the content providers to loosen their grip - I don't see that happening any time soon ... - Xenophrenia

Jim: really? I know some developers doing very well selling casual games on xbox. - Robert Scoble

Don't you think that in the future the platform will be the internet itself? And the phase we're going through now is one that is just legitimizes the net to mainstream? - Stephen Pickering

I spend more time on the iPad gaming than the xbox..really not a compelling platform to me for casual gaming. - Jim Posner

Any comments on coming app store at Apple? - Alex de Soto

Can ipad be the new windows if it's only available from one vendor? - Todd Hoff

Airplay? - Stephen Pickering

Todd: good point, but I think it can be dominant. It already is forcing Starbucks to play its game rather than play Ballmer's game. - Robert Scoble

Starbucks is playing the HTML5 game 'cos that covers apple + android + laptops - Kevin Marks

When we get to the points that networks run seamlessly ... ? ... hmmm ... I get the feeling that will be awhile ... - Xenophrenia

Kevin: true, but Android is Flash-compliant. If the world was Android and Laptops, he would have used Flash. - Robert Scoble

What's a commercial, John? - Kevin Marks

Android is <10% flash compliant - Kevin Marks

it is AirPlay, Stephen - and it transfers a running stream from iDevice to AppleTV without a laptop involved http://www.apple.com/appletv... - Jerome Hughes

(coming soon_ - Jerome Hughes

Danny, and most all of their customers - Jerome Hughes

Seems like companies like ATT will eventually become personal data service providers..much live the pvr component on the set top box - Jim Posner

@Kevin - good point. I don't know what a commercial is. - John Taschek

I could try FaceTime instead... - Kevin Marks

OK everybody. This weekend, forget Microsoft, Google and Apple and coffee pots. Just Go Phillies!!! ;) - Alex de Soto

RIM's profit nearly doubled last quarter, their sales have grown at double digit pace the last 4 years even in the teeth of the iPhone - Stephen Pickering

IPad has a ATT uverse app that is very functional.. - Jim Posner

Ipad will dominate because so many people don't want to think ... I like the Ipad but I don't like how it encourages 'non-thinking' to some degree ... it's like slowly leading a herd of sheep into the pen - Xenophrenia

@alex - GIANTS! - John Taschek

it's the hottest raffle prize at a IT conferences - Jerome Hughes

Next year you'll see a 40/40/20 mix of iPads/Android/Playbook Tablets at the Gartner Conf. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

why is the business community still so attached to blackberry? - Sandra

Xenophrenia -- compared with what? TV? iPhone? - Ian McGee

Doesn't Jobs own a huge part of Disney? - John Taschek

And the iPad doesn't work well at Disney? - John Taschek

FT - iPad sales fail to hit forecasts http://bit.ly/9ta4ub - clive boulton

next year's new tablets will compete with an iPad that's beyond the current one - Jerome Hughes

Keyword for iPad is convergence - Jim Posner

People tend to be like crows and some species of rats - bright shiny objects are irresistible .... ;-) - Xenophrenia

32% of iPad users haven't installed apps - Kevin Marks

web browser is the killer app for iPad so far - Jim Posner

Killer app this week for me has been MLB.com on the iPhone. - Alex de Soto

The type of tablet you have will be a status symbol .. unfortunately - Xenophrenia

That's a sign of failure of App Stores to me.... - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

Web browsing is horrible on the iPad - Stephen Pickering

In 5 years your augmented/diminished realty computer system will be displayed directly onto your eyes and all this pad/phone talk will seem quaint. There are a lot of disruption points coming in the future and it will all change again. - Todd Hoff

In 5 years? ... not so sure about that ... eventually ... but I don't think it will be in 5 years - Xenophrenia

Always with the batteries... - Ian McGee

They have MS Surface! ;-) - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

browser is good enough on the iPad..meets most of my casaul reading requirements..having a held held browser trumps the short comings - Jim Posner

or perhaps it's that enterprise has a new girlfriend - Jerome Hughes

But it will be an A world. The new windows is Android - Stephen Pickering

expensive phones correlate well with expensive coffee - Kevin Marks

I think a lot of the 'big' companies are nervous - about the internet - Xenophrenia

Xeno, right the future, long term is the internet as platform - Stephen Pickering

Agree Kevin. Android users look for more value I believe which correlates to general Open Source pricing. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

Apple is a status symbol - that's why everyone wants one ... at least a large part of it - Xenophrenia

Well they make great products, the best, and so their brand is the most valuable in the World. Only Google's brand has the clout to challenge them - Stephen Pickering

Stephen - I agree ... I'd like to have Apple stuff if I could afford them ... because I like well made things ... but a lot of people use them to show off how 'well' they are doing ... mostly because that's the type of society we live in at the moment - Xenophrenia

FYI, the methodology of that "32% of iPad users haven't downloaded 1 app" is already being called into question: Too small sample size, no info about possible jailbroken/rooted devices, etc. - Alex Schleber

Until Salesforce et al solves the collections problem, the Microsoft stack is intact http://scoble.it/cAD3Q1 - clive boulton

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