Gillmor Gang recording live 1PM Pacific ht

I can smell the fresh paint in here. Looks nice. - Amyloo

if you say so - Chris Heath

That I don't understand at all - Mark

We're coming on in a minute or two. Doing sound checks now. Looks like things are going well. - Robert Scoble

Thanks, Amyloo! :) - Rob La Gesse

Keen's going to get a cup of tea. Those brits. - Cliff Gerrish

We're waiting on the British guy again. Heheh. - Robert Scoble

I think it was 1-2 people complaining. Most of us appreciate these videos... - beersage

Well it is "Real-time with the Gillmor Gang" on building43.com/realtime so It's not unreasonable to want to watch in real-time. - Mark

Gillmor Gang recording live w/ Doc Searls, Dan Farber, Sam Whitmore, Kevin Marks, Andrew Keen & Scoble - http://building43.com/realtime - Cliff Gerrish

Why do I see multiple FF feeds next to the video? Are they different? - Kenny

And like what Jobs said about apps before apps. "It's called 'Safari.'" - Amyloo

Good, now I don't have to watch #TWiSt. - Vezquex

hah! - Robert Scoble

Kenny - the top feed is the show, the next one down the prior show, etc. - Rob La Gesse

There's something different about being able to hold a device like you hold a book. - Cliff Gerrish

You've just added millions of dollars to the cost to developr the National Geogrpahic product though Rob and doubled its retail price - Mark

Agree, Cliff. Like in bed. Could be called "curlupwithableness." - Amyloo

what's the hash tag for this show? - Vezquex

Low cost content for iTablets will be the big story. - Cliff Gerrish

The Tablet is a real-time device. real-time web, interactions, experiences. - Rob La Gesse

raphael, we normally don't do hash tags -- feel free to make one up. - Cliff Gerrish

To add all that interactivity to one issue of the hundreds of issues of the magazine is going to cost just a fortune. - Mark

raphael - i have done a twitter search using #gillmor, #gillmorgang - Chris Jackson

Make the interactive content a "wiki" and crowd source the content. - Rob La Gesse

Rob - Thanks for the clarification - Kenny

Interactivity will come through mashing up existing streams. - Cliff Gerrish

wow - friendfeed seems really sluggish at the moment. - Chris Jackson

but hash tags are dead anyway, right? - Vezquex

Problem with the Wiki is National Geographic are not going to want potentially false tables and charts poppping up on their products - Mark

raphael, mostly they're just spam magnets. - Cliff Gerrish

The real question is how many subscription fees are consumers going to be able handle? - Cliff Gerrish

Thats what scares me about news sites charging, I visit dozens of news sites a day, imagine if they all charged? We are talking hundreds of bucks a month. - Mark

Scoble wants a laptop? - Vezquex

Everyone is talking about a OLED screen for this device. - Jim Posner

uh ok ;) - Kenny

It was a nice, cool breeze. - Vezquex

Iphone screen is simply too small to read for long periods of itme. - Mark

Apple seems to be negotiating with a wide variety of publishers. - Cliff Gerrish

that's why devices like the kindle are popular, for their convenience. they are NOT a better reading experience - Kenny

More use spaces, than cases? - Amyloo

Look at the size of it; its a freaking joke. - Mark

The multimedia content business (the old CD-ROM) has become the game business. - Cliff Gerrish

Keen's right, we haven't fully understood how to write hypertext yet. - Cliff Gerrish

yes, HTML must kill PDF once and for all. - Vezquex

it's not 'smallness' in size thats wrong with iPod screen, it's pixel count. very high pixel density wins - Kevin Marks

Keen is hyper :P - Susan Beebe

When hardware sells lots, people announce numbers of sales. When they are not good enough, they are reluctant. - Mark

Fully agree that Android and Kindle are forcing Apple to innovate - Kenny

my digital camera has a higher resolution lcd screen than my iphone. - Mark

You can put links in PDFs, and the Kindle has native support for PDFs now, doesn't it? - Amyloo

and it cost me £100. - Mark

http://www.antipope.org/charlie... is apposite here - Kevin Marks

Kevin - I don't care how many pixels you squeeze onto an iPhone or any phone's screen these devices are too small for a good reading experience - Kenny

wow, guess cameras have gotten a lot better in the last year - Vezquex

Pixels are a must for high quality video - huge use case for iTablet - Susan Beebe

Will there be yet another telecom subscription fee associated with the apple device? - Jim Posner

Another thing then which extra pixels wont help with the iphone. Bending your neck down to read the book because you hold it withotu extending your arms and tiring them. I hold books at a different angle. - Mark

There was e-readers before kindle. - Mark

The Kindle is like the original GameBoy. A mass-market classic. - Vezquex

Jim, word is that the bandwidth will be built into the download price of the products. - Cliff Gerrish

Sony had 3 or 4 models out 2 years before Amazon launched. - Mark

Mark - But those e-readers didn't make it easy to get a book - it's soo easy on a kindle - Kenny

Time Warner is promoting 4G in Hawaii. Is 4G being deployed now for the Tablet? - Arnie Klaus

You just dragged a book you bought at the Sony site onto the memory card. Its not rocket science. - Mark

a new Apple TV would be very smart right now - Susan Beebe

scoble's talk just then reminds me of what the Xerox Parc people were demoing in the 70's - a personal tag that allowed you to move from office to office and the screen that was local changed to be your desktop - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

Why? because the APple TV has been super successful the first two times they tried it ? - Mark

Mark - True, but I can buy a book without having to drag anything - The kindle just made it easier and the next devices will just get better and better - kindles, tablets whatever they may be - Kenny

how about a double-hinged laptop so it's easier to hold and read? - Vezquex

How about just buying a book and reading it? I still like that. Reading books ftw. - Mark

Whatever's next from from Apple will be a descendant of the iPhone, not the laptop. - Cliff Gerrish

lol - Kenny

Wonʻt gestures on the tablet create the differentiation of what is cool and what is keyboard. - Arnie Klaus

Just seems crazy to spend a fortune on a reading device before you can read a page of a book. Just go to the damn store and buy some books and read em. - Mark

Virtualization of the keyboard is one of the problems will have to be solved. - Cliff Gerrish

Audio-Visual will carry the day...reading will be for quick snippets. Content will be multimedia - Arnie Klaus

Steve, how does Google control the music industry? - Vezquex

Gilmor can be a cranky old man sometimes :) - Kenny

cranky old man all the time ;) - Tyler Gillies

Yup. Old Git. - Mark

whats comcast? - Tyler Gillies

Buying will be a background function for the utility of our desires. - Arnie Klaus

spotify is going to piss off the american internet pipes - so much traffic now that they are being blocked like Napster was - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

i like grooveshark - Tyler Gillies

lala - Kenny

yup - lala will be used to stream your music to the tablet - Kenny

Spotify is a p2p service: not a lot of people know that - Mark

Haha, that will be interesting, bear. And doubly so, since the US generally has slower connections (especially upload) than Europe. - Vezquex

The new beta of Boxee is awesome - Kenny

Comcast and Time Warner wll buy 4g from verision and keep their subscribers - Arnie Klaus

you're forgetting the concert revenue, artist producerswill always have these revenues - Frédérick 2 Baro

When you think about it, the kindle looks like crap. - Mark

ahh the feel of media - Arnie Klaus

theres no normal people on this call - Tyler Gillies

Scoble, the Kindle's advantage is battery life. - Vezquex

Nope, we're all freaks and monsters. - Mark

Haha, "you're a geek!" - beersage

Robert is right. "Normal" people aren't doing the stuff that geeks are. - Matt M (inactive)

I practice normalcy! - Arnie Klaus

i forgot how epic friendfeed was for realtime video comentary - Tyler Gillies

haha steve said penetration - Tyler Gillies

I think microsft is rising with a lot of touchscreens and apps.. - Frédérick 2 Baro

Friendfeed is a bit slow today. The pipes are clogged. - Mark

Agree with Steve. Geek normal will be normal normal before long. - Amyloo

Who is showing that video of a table? What is that? - Matt M (inactive)

Comcast and Clear are competing in Philadephia area for 4G coverage - along with the new Sprint and soon TMobile - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

yeah geek just means normal trailblazer - Tyler Gillies

MS Surface Technology is awesome - Susan Beebe

go robert, go robert, go robert! - Tyler Gillies

I'm more impressed by the 5-screen studio. This is pretty much like any chat room. - Vezquex

Unfortunately, Steve Ballmer has lost sense of how to wow customers - Susan Beebe

I don't think there will be that much "magic" for this tablet. Not much more then we can do now - especially if the thing will cost $800 - Kenny

Robert do you think video will be on the Tablet front or back or both ? - Frédérick 2 Baro

The air was the precursor waiting for other new technologies. - Arnie Klaus

I need more toys!!! - Paul Sherer

Generation moves accross less than two generation you can have gap between two generations with 2years distance - Frédérick 2 Baro

Kevin's right. That'll keep the geeks happy to have their keyboard, but the rest will use the surface. - Ian McGee

Steve will give it to select schools to seed the rave that scoble is talking. - Arnie Klaus

Frederick; I don't know. That's why we'll have to wait until Wednesday. - Robert Scoble

Wonder how long it is before asus comes out with the poor man's version of the apple device. - Jim Posner

have you seen star wars crawl for html5? - Tyler Gillies

Asus might beat Apple to market if the tablet isn't coming out for a few months. - Vezquex

I'd care a lot more about not having Flash on a tablet than I care about not having it on a phone - Amyloo

tablet must have flash or it's an iFAIL - Susan Beebe

http://www.gesteves.com/experim... - Tyler Gillies

Flash will compile to Obj-C in the new Flash studio, so it won't matter. - Vezquex

http://paulirish.com/work... is Flash implemented in javascript + SVG - Kevin Marks

All you need is PDF -- can have links, audio, right in it. - Amyloo

it doesn't matter that Asus will beat it to market. I was selling 1/4-inch thick NEC tablets in 2002. - Robert Scoble

The other advantage of PDF, back to the magazines discussion, is that's the standand output to give to printers. - Amyloo

"A year head start." Imagine what that actually means given the speed of innovation. - Cliff Gerrish

@amyloo PDF is less than HTML - paginated, inflexible, proprietary - Kevin Marks

ASUS CEO-Shih thinks it would be premature to release a tablet today and predicts the devices will not be successful until there are easily accessible online stores of books, music, videos, games and other content tailored to the form factor. "Content is still not attractive enough today to the customer," he said. "We have those kind of devices in our labs but we are watching to see when this is enabled." He predicts a future where Apple, Google and Microsoft each provide major online content stores and web apps designed for touchscreen tablets. - Jim Posner

sweet. apps. - Tyler Gillies

Families producing content for each other really plays to the strength of the iLife suite. - Cliff Gerrish

Kevin, agree. But I work for a magazine and we already have PDFs. It would be not very time consuming to add the interactivity. - Amyloo

Bingo...family life...education...enjoyment... - Paul Sherer

Right Kevin do you think we will have video calling on it - Frédérick 2 Baro

The facial recognition stuff built in to iPhoto will probably be used to identify users - multi-user devices. Camera on the front. - Cliff Gerrish

@amyloo does your magazine not have a website? - Kevin Marks

what do you think the price point will be - Tyler Gillies

google never shares a part of his market , he will never share with amazon - Frédérick 2 Baro

This silverlight on the iphone thing is getting tired. Microsoft has an h264 streaming platform - big deal. It's not the same as shipping .NET on the phone. - Matt M (inactive)

they don't need too put silverlight on iphone, it already works very well - Frédérick 2 Baro

aaaand Gillmor plays the CoCo card. - Vezquex

fred: how? - Tyler Gillies

yup, we do, but not full articles online yet for the magazine, just for our 10 newsletters -- no true integration of print-web process (non-profit) - Amyloo

I don't watch TV either - I use ONLY demand based media products - screw old media - Susan Beebe

i don't even own a "TV" - Tyler Gillies

ok with steve the next is real time chatting plus video - Frédérick 2 Baro

Do people care about liner notes anymore? Does anyone have a close connection to their music at all? - Matt M (inactive)

people are very dedicated to music listening. - Vezquex

Have people abandoned the the lowly PC. I just bought a new PC to do HD video editing..something I will never do on all the devices discussed today. - Jim Posner

@tyler the iphone seems to work very very well without any flash or sylverlight why bother - Frédérick 2 Baro

Listening, yeah, but what about extras like liner notes? - Matt M (inactive)

jim, what kind of video do you do? - Amyloo

tap tap revenge is wicked smart use case - Susan Beebe

liner notes? haha i haven't bought a cd in years - Tyler Gillies

We need virtual goods portability! So you can buy an item and use it within multiple apps. - Vezquex

looking to do documentary video..long tail stuff..Austin specific initiially. - Jim Posner

The internet is no longer the 'content reuse' medium -- it's flipped, now it's the primary medium, every other medium is a re-release platform. - Cliff Gerrish

good point, Cliff - Vezquex

wow, good one cliff - Tyler Gillies

Steve i don't think black and white applications can succed ... - Frédérick 2 Baro

clliff - the internet is the guttenburg press :) pumping out content!! - Susan Beebe

really interesting work going on with Red Camera..I think more technically interesting than Apple..Pushing extremely expensive video tech down to individuals rather than large production companies. - Jim Posner

http://www.blackeyedpeas.com/ - Robert Scoble

what is going to be the youtube for audio content or news or mixed-media? i.e. the place for everyone to post and be found that isn't controlled by the corporations. - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

There has not been a definitive documentary on SXSW. Maybe I can work with Robert on getting it done. :-) - Jim Posner

bear: why not youtube? - Tyler Gillies

Oddly, YouTube one of the best for audio. Usually the poster slaps on a static image or a short slide show for the video. Many sites offer hosting with a built-in player, including Soundcloud, The Sixty One, and Last.FM. - Vezquex

http://www.youtube.com/watch... pro song recorded on iPHone. - Robert Scoble

http://homepage.mac.com/kevinma... was my son Andrew's recording lat night - Kevin Marks

There are supposed to be a number of iLife announcements -- those are the family/professional production tools. - Cliff Gerrish

robert: friendfeed ftw ;) - Tyler Gillies

yes, steve, it won't be wisdom of the crowd, it will be wisdom of the talented (not necessarily connected)...ask AJK - Paul Sherer

Gilmortopianism :-) - Jim Posner

Robert & Kevin - cool :) - Susan Beebe

this show is sublime geekery - Vezquex

Talent will continue to get paid. This may give them a path within the real-time Network. - Cliff Gerrish

love the discussion on ideas rather than product details. - Jim Posner

the intersection of the horizontal and the vertical will be 1) a cool mess to work in and 2) dominated by curation sites to help people navigate that mess - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

like cut-paste on iPhone - Vezquex

"Cause" based efforts will embrace mobile technologies like iTablet for sure!! - Susan Beebe

Thanks guys for another fabulous GG show :) - Susan Beebe

Great stuff everyone !! - Paul Sherer

although, not really ;) - Tyler Gillies

What's Silverlight? - Ken Sheppardson

"curation will save us all" was @hchamp's conclusion on tummelvision.tv last night - Kevin Marks

yes silverlight forget what version - Tyler Gillies

I have no idea! I'll install Silverlight if needed for this show. - Vezquex

Silverlight 3-4 (latest) - Paul Sherer

silverlight 3 on a VM'd Windows 7 install on my Mac Pro - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

No Silverlight on my mac. - Matt M (inactive)

FriendFeed has been buggy all day - Susan Beebe

Good show. Glad I had a chance to watch live. Seems to make a difference though can't think why. I think I still have Silverlight 2. - Amyloo

Yes, I have latest silverlight. - Robert Scoble

bye. excellent show today. - Vezquex

Silverlight 3.04 ver (on Win7 64bit) - Susan Beebe

That was a fun show, thanks for joining! - Robert Scoble

Thank you Robert - YOU made it fun :) - Susan Beebe

Good Show - C ya - Kenny

Not gonna install silverlight like my quixotic quest to not install air. - Paul E. Ester

Good show, production always getting better - Paul E. Ester

Great show! Silverlight 2 on my MacBookPro... updating to latest version now :) - Robert J Taylor

Enjoyed the show thanks. I was using Silverlight 3. - Hilary Talbot

What are Kindle media options beyond books? - Paul Sherer

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