"1. The oversimplification of section 1251 is causing you grief. You tend to shift around in your posts to avoid the obvious that your hyperbole is only hyperbole. 2. The ACA law is not the same as private insurance companies. 3. Ad hominem attacks are not proving your point. 4. I pointed to Section 1251. You tried to avoid the text. The definition in "e' uses the phrase grandfather because that is the idea ... (a) To oversimplify "if you have a plan then you can keep the plan" (b) To simplify "if you have a plan that meets the minimum requirements then you can keep the plan." (c) Actual text - read section 1251(a)(2). Here is a link to the text: https://www.govtrack.us/congre... Cancelations of plans were those not meeting minimum requirements -- as clarified in the ACA text." - LPH™ and his dog P™