Gillmor Gang, Live Recording Session at 1p

are we ready? - Kevin Marks

Waiting for the call. - Robert Scoble

Are you in Europe Robert? - Stephen Pickering

texas - Robert Scoble

Ah, same thing. hehehehehehhe - Stephen Pickering

I am at Rackspace's headquarters in San Antonio. - Robert Scoble

daylight saving in Australia! I can watch GG live :) - Hilary Talbot

CNBC briefly commented on RAX yesterday, but I had it on mute and couldn't get to the remote in time to see their take - Stephen Pickering

CNBC slandered us. Has no clue what cloud is. - Robert Scoble

Oh, yeah, I didn't think it was positive because the stock was down, but its up nicely today - Stephen Pickering

Adobe and Microsoft? Boring. - Robert Scoble

I'd like to hear some talk on Ev stepping down as Twitter CEO - Matt M (inactive)

Not boring, just old world tech maybe consolidating - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

I don't think this will be a good move for Microsoft. I think Flash has hit its peak - it's not dead, but I don't see it lasting forever with HTML5 canvas/audio/video + SVG. - Matt M (inactive)

Matt, I think it's interesting from how MS Office and Adobe's Suite of apps could integrate together. That to me that is more interesting than Silverlight/Flash but also very relevant to the idea. There is lot's of synergy from owning all the core desktop apps. Is it too late? Yes and no. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

there's always room for improvements on existing technology ;-) - Xenophrenia

it's amazing how much better a computer runs when you clean the dust out of the heatsink .. ;-) - Xenophrenia

Bingo Steve, they need to have the chat back-end. Closes the loop. (What does Shout do?) - Denise Howell

Then they would collude! hahahah - Stephen Pickering

Total agree about collusion, Stephen - John Taschek

Shout sends to all your friends - Kevin Marks

my call dropped - Robert Scoble

so, you shout "i'm in SF, who's up for going out" - Kevin Marks

any one of them could enable presence by adding an xmpp jid - that would also enable chat - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

John, does Salesforce do accounting like Netsuite? - Stephen Pickering

We need a neutral independent company providing internet access that only provides that and doesn't do content that conflict interest, and preferably Fiber to the Home, but Regulation is keeping Capital out of that area - Stephen Pickering

I might keep riding a gokart through Rackspace' headquarters if Steve lets me. - Robert Scoble

You're having too much fun Robert ;-) - Xenophrenia

have a look at http://tango.me/ for iPhone to Android video calling - Kevin Marks

go for it Robert - Tina Chase Gillmor

Robert say hello to Chad Keck @Ckeck to me if you see him. Tell him Stephen Pickering said "Hello" he's great as well as Rob :-) - Stephen Pickering

Here's an app: What if you are in the middle of a crime and you hold up your live streaming video and tell the criminals they are on video on the net! Would it stop the crime? - Stephen Pickering

I guess if they weren't using masks - Stephen Pickering

Galápagos (disambiguation) - Arnie Klaus

Stephen: http://www.financialforce.com/ - John Taschek

Heh, found a wifi dead zone at Rackspace. - Robert Scoble

Sharp.co.jp/galapagos - Arnie Klaus

Video chat on the PC is available in many companies yet most use Desktop sharing with voice and/or IM. Video meetings seems like a slow adoption. Many people don't like showing their face. That's my observation though. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

Vivu has a good solution, for instance: http://www.youtube.com/watch... - Robert Scoble

1962 worlds fair had the video phone, but people are afraid to see themselves on "TV" - Arnie Klaus

it becomes the norm, like a little way into A Scanner Darkly - Jerome Hughes

at mozilla we have an iChat enabled monitor between Mountain View and Toronto office. we also do team video chats using Adobe Connect (the RelEng team) - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

second Matt's desire for eventual @ev move discussion, though heard it announced as stepping "aside" ~ will @dickc at Twitter's helm impact 3rd party developer subsumption issue discussed on last GG ? - Jerome Hughes

Isn't this show a version of the future facebook groups with video - Arnie Klaus

I had friends using CUSeeMe for persistent group video back in the 90s; - Kevin Marks

Arnie: yes, except without the email notifications. ;-) - Robert Scoble

Kevin: yeah, and I had Netmeeting too. Back in 1996. - Robert Scoble

I still remember the day the naked guy called me on Netmeeting. :-) - Robert Scoble

Yep, I used CUSeeMe quite a bit back then. But many didn't. Depends on comfort level of person. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

I like how Jason and Mark got pulled into the NAMBLA group ... which in some ways point out the issue with opt-out vs opt-in ... - Xenophrenia

haha, I turn on gillmor gang + steve just says my name :) - Nick Halstead

Xenophrenia: that's because they friended an idiot. Serves them right. - Robert Scoble

Nick: heh - Robert Scoble

theres a reason i'm not friends with Robert on Facebook... - Kevin Marks

Not to mention that Jason said he was quitting Facebook. Double idiot. - Robert Scoble

Kevin: you are SO not getting a Christmas card from me! ;-) - Robert Scoble

But it puts you in the position of feeling obligated when you don't want to be in a group and your friend puts you in it - why can't I just be asked and not forced? And then have to navigate through all the settings, AGAIN to fix it so they can't? - Xenophrenia

Groups could replace the feed. - Arnie Klaus

Hysterical. - Denise Howell

hehehe - Xenophrenia

We will feed on the feed. - Arnie Klaus

glad we got to the interesting stuff --> - Jerome Hughes

I don't like the idea of being monetized - and I'm ONLY in Facebook because family is ... I don't like being manipulated for any reason - Xenophrenia

oh come on Jerome, you know it's ALL interesting! - Tina Chase Gillmor

actually Groucho who Woody was quoting ;) - Jerome Hughes

The problem is that any member of the group can add other members - Stephen Pickering

Dunbar's number is a theoretical cognitive limit to the number of people with whom one can maintain stable social relationships. 100-230 - Arnie Klaus

Robert: Flipboard needs to allow us to only select a specific FB groups as a feed. Huge value add to your fav app. - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

then they have endless opportunities to screw it up afterward - Jerome Hughes

depends on the personalities involved - Xenophrenia

meme nodes - Arnie Klaus

stackoverflow (and it's sister sites) are great because they do concentrate/focus to problem spaces and allow people to find their peers to interact with - bear (aka Mike Taylor)

and whether initial implementation was actually a vision or just dumb luck, much less difficult to stay true to a vision - Jerome Hughes

we need to teach communication skills from childhood on - not try to cultivate them in adulthood - but I'm a disenfranchised idealist ;-) - Xenophrenia

Tina - it sure isglad to be real time this week thanks to dumb luck and Robert - Jerome Hughes

we have a skewed view of 'teaching the basics' and assume communication is something that teaches itself - Xenophrenia

is - glad - Jerome Hughes

Wow, that really makes you think. Oh thanks John for the link. Just now looking back at the chatroom - Stephen Pickering

Sorry to hear - manielse (Mark Nielsen)

thanks - nice to be back - Hilary Talbot

Thank You Steve - Arnie Klaus

reminder that there are no guarantees in life - good show ;-) - Xenophrenia

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