"Ya, but also the challenge of getting better/faster at the hardest level (mp10) is enjoyable. One hour is pretty slow... Adjusted some gear (unbuffed 177 + wlk) and changed bell to palm and shessh... does stuff die faster. Doubt I'm going to clear it as fast as shifty but it's getting better. :) Are you just playing at mp8 until you max out paragon? Why shouldn't the goal of d3 to be kill mp10 as fast as possible?" - Czar