GIllmor Gang, recording live today 12 noon PT participate at http://www.ustream.tv/gillmor...
Naor Mark,
Nir Ben Yona,
Tina Chase Gillmor,
Gervase Merrill,
The Mileage Club,
Dale Lature,
and
clive boulton
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Mall traffic down 60 pct, shopping shifts to mobile and ecommerce. http://goo.gl/pr8jtn
- clive boulton
The wifi here is very loaded, going to try LTE
- Kevin Marks
ok calling now Kevin
- Tina Chase Gillmor
kevin call news gang three
- Tina Chase Gillmor
LTE will be better - guess
- Keith Teare
Try again, hit wrong button
- Kevin Marks
ok
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Testes, 1, 2...
- Doc
Doc lol
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Aloha!
- Nir Ben Yona
As long as I'm on the right side of the hill
- Kevin Marks
Doc Searls!
- Matt Terenzio
That's what he said to his Mum: "Thanks for having me."
- Doc
well we had a false start...; about to go again
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Traffic was last thing I heard. Not Steve Winwood
- Matt Terenzio
I have a hard stop at 1:30, btw. Just saying.
- Doc
here's the tech crunch link http://techcrunch.com/2014...
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hm now on hspa
- Kevin Marks
I still have the attention recorder on
- Matt Terenzio
What's up? I'm self muting
- Kevin Marks
Spot on Keith
- Scott Jordan
Spoken like a true U.S. citizen
- Matt Terenzio
https://medium.com/quinn-n... is Quinn's piece
- Kevin Marks
Skype crashed
- Kevin Marks
radio shack and staples closing stores. shopping shifting to apps.
- clive boulton
I'm going back outside, reception was better
- Kevin Marks
40 years ago President Nixon resigned over bugging the Watergate Hotel, whilst Obama survives bugging the Nation!
- Moe Glitz
seeing the grout in Docs fireplace - stunning HD
- clive boulton
In fairness, Obama didn't bug the nation, he just won't debug it. unbug?
- Matt Terenzio
Obama's oversees everything, right. Or is he going to be 12 Years A Slave
- Moe Glitz
I'm wondering if I should climb the hill
- Kevin Marks
Or go up on the roof Kevin
- Moe Glitz
kevin i think you can hang where you are
- Tina Chase Gillmor
we just have to ride the mute
- Tina Chase Gillmor
This is a house, if have to go in someone's room
- Kevin Marks
I'm muting, found the button
- Kevin Marks
Not gonna lobby hard for it. But would love to hear Doc's thoughts on Comcast
- Dale Lature
Walmart having an aisle for earbuds and headphones surprised me music this healthy.
- clive boulton
AIM vs. MSN Messenger vs. XMPP
- Matt Terenzio
What does Doc think about Indie Web Camp's efforts? Is he a supporter?
- Alex de Soto
XMPP is doing a lot of work to get push notification and carbon copies of messages sent between devices.
- Simon Tennant
Foremost in my mind since Time Warner buyout happened ans started reading Susan Crawford book from last year
- Dale Lature
Salmon protocol
- Matt Terenzio
Too many Mobile Messaging Silo's will stifle communication
- Moe Glitz
XMPP was invented to overcome this, but it's been ignored or perverted by many companies using it, e.g. whatsapp
- Doc
Holding phone with friendfeed chat...watching broadcast @steveGillmor Gang on Kindle in front of me on elypses machine pumping the pedals at the Y
- Dale Lature
Kevin's report on comments flowing back resonates after seeing JPs blog comments on different channels
- clive boulton
This is all a little like AT&T before Carterfone. Except now every app is their own AT&T.
- Simon Tennant
agreed, simon
- Doc
Something Cooking in the JustMe Lab?
- Moe Glitz
Registry is VRM multiplexer...
- clive boulton
Sounds like it Moe
- Tina Chase Gillmor
how does the picture look today, folks?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Every picture looks fine Tina, apart from Kevin's
- Moe Glitz
Picture looks terrific except for Kevin's (obvious bandwidth issue).
- Alex de Soto
Doc: There's a lot of good stuff coming out of XMPP. Especially as a signalling channel for new webRTC apps.
- Simon Tennant
yes, I just joined but Kevin's is the only one that is showing variability
- Charlie Isaacs
Go to http://aaronparecki.com/talk on chrome
- Kevin Marks
Yep, Kevin is out and about - busy, busy. glad it's looking good
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Most important is the user identifier (@name or [email protected] etc). Then transport.
- Simon Tennant
Simon - remember realNames :-)
- Keith Teare
/me shudders :)
- Simon Tennant
Hope Keith cracks it
- Moe Glitz
there are many identifiers - @twitter; +CC-Phone-Number; [email protected] - handls - they should all work
- Keith Teare
I'm =matthew
- Matt Terenzio
But mostly since I really think that the longevity of these systems is becasue they need to live outside of a single corporation driving it.
- Simon Tennant
Don't disagree but somebody needs to step up to initiate
- Keith Teare
title bars are a bit "upgraded" for this show. Sporting a "G" logo on it
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Oh Superman
- Moe Glitz
Keith - XMPP Standards Foundation is (full disclosure: I'm a board member).
- Simon Tennant
Hi Charlie
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Discussion on this from yesterday http://www.kevinmarks.com/indiewe...
- Kevin Marks
Keith that sounds like what Indieweb are doing
- Scott Jordan
Hi Tina, I just excluded you from my last tweet, out of space. When are the increasing that darn character limit anyway? :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Kind of hard to believe there arent more on this show wanting to talk about danger of Comcast....maybe as it gets worse
- Dale Lature
Skype crashed again
- Kevin Marks
Charlie... you can leave me out. quite OK
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Kevin's on LTE...
- clive boulton
Tina :) I'll just tweet your "goodbye wave" pics
- Charlie Isaacs
Keith: where does this registry live?
- Simon Tennant
Normal people need simple things. If you want to make people control their own Communication Channels you need a simple brand. Chat DJ!
- Moe Glitz
How come Kevin is always outside somewhere? Will no one let him inside? :)
- Dale Lature
Hdspa sadly
- Kevin Marks
Add context-awareness to a comm system like that and I'm sold.
- Alex de Soto
Charlie...OMG what if I'm having a bad hair day? like everyday!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Inside has worse reception
- Kevin Marks
Research on signalling WebRTC over XMPP, pretty cool http://dbis.rwth-aachen.de/cms...
- Charlie Isaacs
Charlie: The &Yet guys are doing great work on this. Look at their open source oTalk webclient.
- Simon Tennant
Don't we need like 4 particular companies to work together and they never will?
- Matt Terenzio
Get Offa My Cloud
- Moe Glitz
Video looks great. Looking at Doc's now
- Dale Lature
Thanks Simon
- Charlie Isaacs
Dan getting all indie http://dangillmor.com/2014...
- Kevin Marks
Interestingly AT&T is one of their customers. :)
- Simon Tennant
Dan has always been indie, no?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Go Telco on the mountain
- Matt Terenzio
good one Matt... too long for show title though
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Matt T, I do that religiously
- Charlie Isaacs
Tellco u love me?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hanging on the Telephone
- Moe Glitz
Do you think that a blank / absent ad model is good because ... (1) it was free of advertising and thus, was a primary reason for growth, or (2) that the absence of ads provides a blank slate to lay down the type of ad format in a space with an already large following?
- Chien-Yu Lin
I want 007 as my iBeacon identity
- Moe Glitz
Tina - you never have a bad hair day! And besides, the way you run the board is beautiful :)
- Charlie Isaacs
one ringaling to rule them
- Matt Terenzio
simon - in the cloud
- Keith Teare
aww, Charlie. You're such a charmer ;-)
- Tina Chase Gillmor
We helped Nebraska Crossings Mall with a beacon project, they're using it for car-locator services currently (I know, yawn) but they are hooking up the retail stores on phase II
- Charlie Isaacs
My Ding-A-Ling
- Moe Glitz
Keith: Does "in the cloud" mean a single company?
- Simon Tennant
The cloud was originally not that
- Kevin Marks
you can also trigger built-in functions from beacons like "dial a number" to call for help, or video chat, or...back to xmpp :)
- Charlie Isaacs
And while we are at it let's break up Twitter. there is a new wave of messaging tools out there!
- Matt Terenzio
The net is the cloud
- Kevin Marks
I really like how email solved this: you have an identity that lives with a provider. And those providers intercommunicate with eachother. SMTP was invented 30 years ago. But we're still grappling with this same problem on other protocols today.
- Simon Tennant
So everyone has their own Mini Cloud through a Beacon
- Moe Glitz
It could. I'm less concerned about that so long as their role is thin and glue
- Keith Teare
email+
- Matt Terenzio
Simon - agree re SMTP and IMAP for example
- Keith Teare
email + privacy + realtime
- Matt Terenzio
email++
- Matt Terenzio
Shame that Microsoft has so many dark clouds
- Moe Glitz
Say hi to Anselm
- Kevin Marks
someone just photo bombed the Gillmor Gang!
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Should I go find Dan?
- Kevin Marks
Recommender systems should take off in the enterprise if all channels flow back (as they did in consumer).
- clive boulton
can you guys generate some show keywords for the seo
- Tina Chase Gillmor
MicroSoft should freeze Windows development, maintain yes, but move on , accept Linux and Android
- Scott Jordan
WhatsApp, Beacons, Cloud
- Moe Glitz
"guaranteed a lifetime of dull employment"
- Simon Tennant
thx Moe
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google is tackling and chasing the hard problems.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Amen on google, Doc
- Dale Lature
Simon... Did Doc just say that?
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Google people even turn up at webRTC meetups. Much closer to the hacker ethos.
- Simon Tennant
Comcast wont do it without beingvforced to
- Dale Lature
Tina: Doc said that. Great quote!
- Simon Tennant
Really OS X is "Windows" built on BSD, so is Chrome. Microsoft can do the same.
- clive boulton
Simon... yes, agreed. thx
- Tina Chase Gillmor
That and they are well positioned to be the defense and security contractor for the US.
- Chien-Yu Lin
2014 and we are finally deciding we got the OS right and it's . . . Unix
- Matt Terenzio
I prefer Google vs Comcast since Comcast is the dangerous one
- Dale Lature
Ms is not dangerous because theyve lost so much relevance
- Dale Lature
Comcast and the other Telecos are Dinosaurs
- Scott Jordan
Our nephew just went to Google. it was surprising
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Microsoft is about execution (which is really about risk aversion).
- Chien-Yu Lin
Windows Azure uses Unix (backfitting desktop Windows could happen)
- clive boulton
I originally learned to code on BSD, love that people are embracing UNIX again :)
- Charlie Isaacs
Did you see that WhatsApp was running on FreeBSD?
- Matt Terenzio
Gang should also talk some day soon about Google Fiber and its position visavi Comcast
- Dale Lature
Google needs to start making their Services pay off, so that in the next couple of years it takes 50% of their revenues
- Moe Glitz
+clive - correct, check out this page: http://bsd.org/ a lot of flavors of BSD
- Charlie Isaacs
For the future of Advertising, Google should have acquired Twitter a few years ago
- Moe Glitz
They tried
- Kevin Marks
Evan, et. al. never would have sold to Google. They did that with blogger. once was enough.
- Doc
Should have tried harder Kevin
- Moe Glitz
Scott, problem with the dinosaur that is Comcast is that it is still alive and eating
- Dale Lature
Outside of the tech world, is anyone really complaining about Microsoft? It is like SAP - enterprise complains about it - but not really.
- Chien-Yu Lin
Next time I'll check LTE reception first
- Kevin Marks
YouTube could be a huge money earner if managed right
- Moe Glitz
They are no longer excited by it, they are excited by phones and tablets
- Kevin Marks
Bing is on Linux, btw.
- Doc
They need to kill Google+. No one has time to shift to another Brand
- Moe Glitz
We wouldn't be here if the content wasn't worthwhile. As always, another great show.
- Chien-Yu Lin
darn, what happened to the Tina wave, did I miss it? :)
- Charlie Isaacs
@chien-Yi Lin: +1
- Simon Tennant
aww Charlie.. you miss wed my bad hear day.... darn
- Tina Chase Gillmor
Hey chat room, Steve just told us we were just like Bruce, Die Hards http://www.gonnageek.com/wp-cont...
- Charlie Isaacs
Yippie ki-yay http://youtu.be/tJ7z5CUsrbk
- clive boulton
Thanks to all. You are all spectacular
- Tina Chase Gillmor