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Mexican wars 1819, 1846-48 Spanish-American war, 1898 World War I, 1914-1918 World War 2, 1939-1945 Korean War, 1950-1953 Vietnam War Grenada invasion War on Drugs Panama invasion US-Israeli sponsored war between Iraq and Iran, 1980-1988 Desert Storm (First Gulf war), 1991) War on Terror Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan invasion), 7.10.2001 Enduring Justice (Second Gulf war), 20.3.2003: Operation Iraqi Freedom - pb:

David Ray Griffin is spot on. The most laughable of all 9/11 “conspiracy” theories is the one invented by the CIA/Pentagon and by NIST and the 9/11 Commission and sold to the gullible and incredibly ignorant American public by the CIA lap dog MSM. Most of their theory is pure fantasy, profoundly unscientific, incomplete and a deliberate fraud and cover-up. None of dozens of serious scientific questions raised by the 9/11 Truth Movement has ever been rebutted or even acknowledged by the US government. Why? Because they have no answers that can or will make sense so remain silent. The attacks were a successful coup d’etat by a Militarist/Corporatist/Zionist cabal of mad dog criminals with two major objectives : 1) To “justify” endless global wars of Conquest and Plunder, mass murder, torture and genocide and 2) to destroy our Constitutional rights and freedoms and replace the republic with a lawless totalitarian surveillance police state. The United States is under de facto military rule and has been since September 11, 2001. The president and the congress are puppets and the US Constitution replaced by the “Patriot” Act. - pb:

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DEFINES PATRIOTISM AND DUTY FOR VETERANS, “TRUTH AND HONOR” Colonel Bowman, an Air Force combat pilot and Vietnam veteran cuts through “the bull.” ....... Some people don’t like facts. Some people don’t like truth. Some people don’t have honor. ....... Without courage, without facts, without truth and without action, anyone who believes themselves an American patriot is very much the opposite. http://j.mp/gHzCIS - pb:

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No way! This video by decorated frm US Army scientist posted as public comment on huffpost.com! http://www.youtube.com/watch... http://worldnewsrecord.blogspot.com/2011... - pb:

Revolution in Britain. Against poverty, unemployme­nt, capitalist robbery and war. .... Riots have intensifie­d on the streets of London as police and bystanders fear for their lives. The rioting and violence has now spread to multiple sectors in and around London North, east and now south. In a move that many fear will happen on the streets of America, there is talk of using the military to quell civil unrest on the streets of London as they continue to burn. In London, groups of young people rampaged for a third straight night, setting buildings, vehicles and garbage dumps alight, looting stores and pelting police officers with bottles and fireworks. The spreading disorder was an unwelcome warning of the possibilit­y of violence for leaders organizing the 2012 Summer Olympics in less than a year. 911Truth controlled demolition­. London To Be Under Martial Law In Next 24 Hours – Troops To Deploy Against ‘Teenage’ Population In London. ... http://bit­.ly/oKSDpq big demonstrat­ions previously against poverty, unemployme­nt, capitalist crimes also in Greece, Spain, Italy, - pb:

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Terribly powerful and Total Destruction Weapons at our disposal. EMP. Eastlund's discovery - Cooking the atmosphere. beaming High Frequency (HF) and Extremely High Frequency (EHF) waves, of extremely high power (over a billion watts), directly at a point on the ionosphere. the ionosphere becomes heated from the accumulating electrical energy, causing atmospheric bulge. Eastlund discovered that this bulge was highly reflective to radio waves, and, because of its altitude, it could bounce high frequency radio signals to points well beyond the horizon Uses Behind he horizon radar views Beaming energy across the globe Weather Control Eastlund's patents were sealed under a US Secrecy Order. The military realized that his first patent outlined the recipe for an over-the-horizon radar apparatus, capable of detecting Soviet launched ICBM's within seconds of their launch. heated ionosphere acted like a powerful battery, storing, amplifying and discharging destructive beams of energy that could devastate a distant target on demand, in seconds Research shows ELF Electromagnetic Low Frequency radiation was extremely harmful to human health. "the entire issue of human interaction with electromagnetic (RF radio frequency & microwave) radiation is... a major national population health concern." Dr. Kanavy noted the "large amount of data, both animal experimental and human clinical, to support the existence of chronic, non-thermal effects." These effects include behavioral aberrations, neural network perturbations, fetal (embryonic) tissue damage (inducing birth defects), cataractogenesis (cataracts), altered blood chemistry, metabolic changes and suppression of the endocrine and immune systems. There were also cases of sudden and unexplained mutations in frogs and wildlife in the radiation paths of ELF installations there have been eleven other patents derived from Eastlund's original work. These patents describe the reflective alterations of the ionosphere for such uses as "nuclear scale explosions without radiation," "power-beaming systems," "over-the-horizon radar systems," and "nuclear missile detection and destruction systems." It is possible not only to interfere with third party communications but to take advantage of one or more such beams to carry out a communications network even though the rest of the world's communications are disrupted. large regions of the atmosphere could be lifted to an unexpectedly high altitude so that missiles encounter unexpected and unplanned drag forces with resultant destruction." approved to develop a tomographic scanning apparatus back in 1996. This ability to penetrate deep within the Earth, to scan for caves, munitions storage and potential enemy shelters the same wavelengths used in this tomographic scanning are powerful ELF radiation. And once located, strategic targets can be destroyed by changing the frequency and power of the directional beam. The Navy is also developing high-altitude manned and unmanned vehicles at secret locations, such as those in Nevada. One such project is called "Aurora," suggesting a link to this new technology. It is our belief that this electromagnetic beam system is currently on-line The potential for building a HAARP type of installation is well within the technology and budget of even the poorest country. It involves no nuclear fuel and can be constructed covertly. Computing power is now virtually unlimited. The country that has such a capability on-line first, and is able to detect and destroy other such devices, could maintain the balance of power and control of the globe. HAARP technology is presently under suspicion by a number of scientists around the world. The ionosphere has been described as a delicate "bubble" of charged particles that, much like the ozone layer, serves as a thin skin, protecting us against high energy particles that regularly stream towards Earth from the Sun. Even a temporary "hole" or rip in this ion field could result in the collision of these particles with our genetic and biologic molecules, causing mutations or death. Some scientists even worry that the ionosphere could collapse from electrical imbalance. The magnetic field, or magnetosphere, is important for the existence of life, as we know it. It effectively diverts the solar wind as it throws charged, high energy particles towards the Earth Also. new concept for prevention of tornado formation in mesocylones based on heating cold downdrafts within the storm with microwave radiation from a satellite based source In the future, Dr. Eastlund's technologies will change our planet. Electrical energy will be available everywhere, without the need for transmission lines. Disasters from severe thunderstorms and tornadoes will be minimized, climates will be made milder, and food production will be enhanced by illuminated skies and ample rainfall. Global communication will be inexpensive. Critical ozone will be replenished. And, most importantly, nuclear weapons will have been made obsolete by the abilities to detect and destroy enemy installations. Humane peace applications are still in the future. Eastlund's patents remain under the control of the military industrial complex. We are more likely to see an instantaneous "death ray," or mass "mind control" mechanisms, before Eastlund's discoveries make the planet a better place to live. www.krunchd.com/haarp - pb:

Raising the debt roof IS NOT solving a problem of debt. It is time to get rid of destructive conservative republigangs antiamerican economic treason policies - of investing in Asia, China, importing cheap products and so putting America out of work ... in order for them to have higher profits .... long term solutions only 1. invest in America 2. single payer public private healthcare system, freer education 3. invest in America, money for child births 4. salary economic justice - max difference, say, of 25 times difference btw lowest and highest pay in a company. 5. raise minimum wage by 25% immediately 6. cut crazy military budget of $1 trillion by 60% to start with 7. regulate speculation cartel oil gas overpricing 8. invest in solar and wind, see www.krunchd.com/solar .. quite amazing www.worldnewsrecord.blogspot.com - pb:

good questions ... 911Truth Movement already answered some of them, best way possible at the moment. 1. it was most likely rogue elements of army, intelligence services, government. US, maybe foreign too. We dont know who knew what, and when. Thats why new independent investigation. 2. the reasons are 1. pretext for wars, to condition the nation and the world for wars 2. to create police state regime at home - dhs, tsa 3. to wire 3 tower for controlled demolition with military high tech explosive - 1. all secret, nobody knew what they are doing 2. highly conmpartmentalized knowledge, nobody knew what the others are doing 3.security ..those who needed to know something are all signed to silence under capital punishment to start with. 4. top profession - those who might say something just do not exist for this world ------ so they painted walls with nanothrmite high explosive. the goals are world domination, of course. oil, money, power. .. of course with every war this gets accomplished ... billions of your $$$ to military contractors and military budgets. of course keeping everybodys poor and unemployed will help . ... they steal your money, work is cheaper abroad, especially medical care is, ... make sense ?? http://krunchd.com/911 - pb:

hi, :] simply, the irrefutable evidence and laws of nature FORCE the ONLY explanation: controlled demolition, or enhanced controlled demolition. therefore - inside operation. now tedious details 1. times 10 and 8 seconds. ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE for anything but controlled demolition+. http://www.drjudywood.com/arti... 2. pile of rubble you say it was up to 100 feet. well for a building of 1300 feet, one would expect - my guess- 800 feet of rubble? or more? 3. NO, the buildings DID vanish and pulverized. disappeared. here again, search ctrl f for word "rubble" - http://www.drjudywood.com/arti... 4. you say "yes concrete pulverized as would be expected" .... well how would you expect concrete to pulverize from building collapse???? and into a fine pyroclastic dust, shooting out into streets ... do you realize what fairy tales you are preaching here ??? 5 forces of impact buildings were SPECIFICALLY designed to withstand impact of airliners as you saw, they remained standing - as expected ... nothing happened to them. some beams were cut. huge kerosone fireballs burned outside. 6. fires, as you saw, burned on only several floors, not as you say throught the all space, and were cooler fires, judging from smoke that was black, not white for heavens sake, WHAT IS "the significant combustible materials found in most offices" as you say ??? a coffee?? napkins? wood? 7. melted steel ? reported by pfotographs on it at the Wtc site .. have you seen them? do i need ot search for them ... bright ball of fire molten steel burning for 3 months ... so that is your molten steel Now one -true- for what you say - office or kerosene fires do can weaken the steel up to a point of fatigue/failure... IN THAT CASE, however, we'd see an IRREGUALR, slow collapse, and NOT in the path of greatest resistace - through itself, straight in its footprint ..... do you realize what fairy tales you are preaching here? ...or they had you believe in? No, English is not my native language, i was born abroad. I am a US citizen now, however. That said, i still feel, and want to feel, little different from born US citizens. I just came to this county, so i do not mind claiming less, or different, merits and rewards ... That will not prevent me in NO way speaking my mind, saying what i think its the truth. I did not fear or mind saying the truth and my mind during communism and to communists, and i certainly will not mind it now, in USA. have a good day:] petr scientific links www.ae911truth.org www.stj911.org also www.DrJudyWood.com, http://wheredidthetowersgo.com... rubble comparison http://www.acebaker.com/9-11/H... and so forth, following links - pb:

hi:] .. my comments under >>>>>>>>>> Sudden onset? What rate of collapse is appropriate for buildings of this size? >>>>>>>> for controlled demolitions, its the speed of free fall. thats how its programmed so that rubble lays in its footprints, doesnt have time to fall sidewise. of sourse though it can be slowed down. otherwise, i DO NOT KNOW how or why would "building of this size" collapse .. it wouldnt be because of planes impact, though .. that was designed for Forces and loads? There is a lot of weight on top of the part of the building that is burning. Do you expect to be able to fly a plane into a building, burn that building, and not have it collapse? >>>>>>>>>> EXACTLY. ..also designers and engineers expected that planes wont cause sudden catastrphic total collapse into its footrpints. now architects and engineers and designers are trying to figure out how and why in the hell those buildings could fall, and the way they did. government and government agencies and engineers are stalling, covering, not cooperating in this effort. Buildings evaporated? Do you expect that the buildings will collapse, but still be standing? The collapsed buildings were still there, just in piles on the ground. The buildings did not evaporate. >>>>>>>>> EXACTLY. if buildings collapsed, theyd STILL BE THERE. toppled over. buildings evaporated. http://www.drjudywood.com/article... http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/ computers, marble, shoes, tables, glass, chairs, cabinets, wall pictures of Bush jr all, ALL evaporated? Perhaps if you were to talk with someone who worked there searching for bodies, you would not come up with these completely false claims. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see pictures. there is practically no rubble, no remains of anything over there http://www.drjudywood.com/article... http://wheredidthetowersgo.com/ those buildings housed 40 000 people, had their own zip code. www.ae911truth.org Where is victims bodies? Office or kerosene fires CANNOT cremate human bodies. The bodies of many of the people in the buildings were recovered. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i am not aware of that .. 3000 people ..victims ... where did they go ??? http://911investigate.blogspot.com/2011... ********************************************** this is a VERY POWERFUL video by a decorated US scientist, if you dont mind http://911investigate.blogspot.com/2011... ********************************************** The irrefutable scientific evidence is ALL OVER THE INTERNET. Have you been where? The irrefutable evidence has been refuted by people who actually know what they are doing. Not by people looking for any irregularity and claiming that this is proof of some sort of conspiracy. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you cannot refute irrefutable :/ or youd have to violate laws of physics on planet earth. as per one yes they "know" what they are doing .. listening to orders of supervisors, taking orders from government. that is no science. thats a FRAUD. AGAIN 1.nanothermite 2. free fall speeds 3. sudden onset, uniform fall 4. evaporation, disappearance of buildings 5. building WTC 7, never even mentioned nowhere in official crime stories Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report – Popular Mechanics examines the evidence and consults the experts to refute the most persistent conspiracy theories of September 11. Popular Mechanics February 3, 2005 http://www.popularmechanics.co... i will not look again on this site .. i do not have time petr - pb:

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If that area on picture, size of Austria, was covered in solar thermal power plants, it would produce enough electricity to meet WORLD demand ... hard to believe, but that's what exactly it is. Smaller red square area covered with soalr power plants would satisfy electricity needs of Europe, the smallest one would cover Germany's energy demand... http://www.spiegel.de/fotostr... via friendfeed.com Grand brainwashi­ng of oil coal atom military war standing industries­. Trying to kill off to them disruptive element new technologies. !! Every 40 minutes, enough solar energy hits the USA to cover its energy needs for 1 year !! http://www.time.com/time... !! In 6 hours, deserts receive more solar energy than humankind consumes in 1 year !! http://des­ertec.org !! Windpower Could Provide 40 Times Earth's Power Needs !! http://www.popsci.com/environ...... http://fri­endfeed.co­m/solarth... http://preventdisease.com/home... - pb:

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points were made that Hindus cremate their dead on banks or river Gangus, therefore bodies could have been cremated into disappearence by events of 911 attacks but http://911investigate.blogspot.com/2011... and that iron spherules were created by cutting action after the collpase or even during construction. I did not have clear answer off hand for that. Mr Valley, Il be replying to you in your text with >>>>> at left Sir, your assertions are unfortunately mostly incorrect:. >>>>> my assertions are scientific facts, made by science experts. They may not be politically or war propaganda correct, however thay are factually correct. 1. It was NOT sudden; the collapse of WTC1 and 2 were preceeded by the impact of widebodied jet aircraft that caused significant structural damage and ignited massives fires on multiple floors resulting in the weakening and eventual failure of the steel supports causing a progressive collapse. >>>> it WAS sudden. from 0 to total collapse in about 11 sec, close to free fall speed, about 11 floors per second disappeared. Building WTC 7 WAS NOT hit by any airplanes, yet it collapsed straight down, in its footprints, in 6.5 sec free fall uniform sudden onset. If there was any weakening of a structure, we would see ununiform topple over of buildings, and not through path of greatest resistence - strainght donw, but sideways, and irregularly. What we see is that thousands of bolts failed uniformely, in concert, as if "on command" ... indeed. http://911research.wtc7.net/wt... 2. It was not symmetric, however it was progressive. >>>> it WAS symmetric, regular, ALL 3 buildings, on one day, collapsed straight down into their footprints ..... progressive? what d oyou mean? probalby the speed of free call, correct? or, close to free fall ... 3. Yes, there was pulverization of components of the structure, as would be expected in this type of collapse. >>>>> yes, pyroclastic cloud. impossible other than with explosives. type of collapse is master controlled demoliton. 4. What source are you using for this statement? What measuring tools were used? What benchmarks were used to determine the speed? >>>>> sources, again, all science experts patriots : http://ae911truth.org .. http://stj911.org ...list at http://krunchd.com/911 , and http://911investigate.blogspot.co... . another list at http://911UnitedWeInvestigate.... tools? a stopwatch. benchmarks? seconds from the begining of fall. 5. The buildings DID NOT fall into their own footprint, as is evidenced by the destruction of and significant damage to, numerous other buildings in the WTC complex and beyond (ex. WTC 3, 4, 5, 6 etc... see the link for a full list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F... >>>> NO. buildings DID fall into their footprints. otherwise you'd see irregular topple over of intact buildings - that in case no explosives were used. The damage to side buildings is from debris ejected from controlled demoliotion charges being exploded. 6. What is your source? What is your definition of "cremated"? If Hindus can cremate bodies on open wood fires beside the Ganges, why would it be impossible or unusual for bodies to have been similarly burned in the fires of WTC1 and 2? >>>> http://911investigate.blogspot.com/2011... This medical expert says temperature of fires must be higher than office or kerosene fires. Temperatures must be sustained. As seen from western crematoriums chambers. I believe it is quite hard to entirely burn a human body. 7. This was a building collapse, not a volcano; "pyroclastic" is an incorrect term for the dust clouds, they would be more accurately described as turbidity flows I believe. >>>> pyroclastic because of its fine structure and a flow movement 8. What is your source? Was the material definitively identified as "melted iron"? There were certainly fires smouldering for many weeks in the pile, as would be expected. I have personally witnessed a large pile of brush from a field clearing operation burn and smoulder for 2 solid weeks through various types of weather. >>>> source: http://ae911truth.org yes, iron spherules, you can see it on pictures. you can see pictures of nanothermite high military explosive What was smouledring for 3 months was a molten metal, red hot after 3 months. What would be the explanation other than high tech military incendiary explosive were presnt and used? How would office fires or kerosene flare melt a metal?? 9. What is your source? No report that I have seen indicated "explosives" were found. The chemical components of thermite were likely present as naturally occurring components of the structure and contents of the WTC buildings. Besides, thermite would have been a ridiculously inefficent tool to use for a controlled demo due to the quantity required and slow speed of reaction. >>>> source: http://ae911truth.org for one, http://stj911.org, http://911research.wtc7.net specifially info on explosives found .... The material used is not naturally occuring, but new high tech secret nanothermite. Unexplodded it was found in the dust of WTC. Can you somehow explain, or obfuscate that? 10. Iron spherules? Which means what? They easily could have been present from the welding and cutting operations that took place as the WTC was being constructed. They were certainly produced by the cutting operations during the rescue and recovery operations after the collapse. >>>> iron spherules means that temperature were reach od melting iron, and that is NOT possible with office or kerosene fires. them being from cutting operations? good point, im sure its addressed somewhere in the research. Petr, why do your feel inclined to believe in a conspiracy in this instance? Have you read the articles you are commenting on? Do you realize that the vast majority of rational people would consider many of your statements to be highly implausible? Have you heard of Occams razor? >>>> I understand what the scientific facts are, I believe in facts and science, therefore I do understand that 911 WTC attacks are controlled demolition, therefore inside false flag operation pretext for wars. I have read the article we are commenting on. Vast majority of rational people need to look at what rational, scientific facts and evidence are ... They are, in this case, worked over by clever propaganda media. No, I have not heard of Occams razor ... Il take a look. What is it, some movie? .., with a lot stars in it ?? - pb:

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Not being understood by the American people about this crisis is that it centers on the $114 Trillion owed to them under what are called entitlement programmes, such as Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare, which all are insolvent as the monies paid into them over these past 5 decades have been looted to pay for wars, corporate subsidies, tax breaks for their elite classes, and too many other extravagant programmes to mention. Even worse for these unsuspecting Americans is that in the 1960 US Supreme Court Case titled Flemming v. Nestor (363 U.S. 603) the Court ruled that they do not have any “earned rights” to any Social Security benefits, or any other government entitlement programme, as their perceived benefits were a “non-contractual interest.” - pb:

US money is being controlled by private Fed - Federal Reserve Bank, and US elections are only advisory - Electoral College does not have to institute popularly elected presidential candidate, but whomever they want. - pb:

how powerful a faction it must take to coordinate the controlled demolition of three large buildings, four commercial aircraft hijackings and what appears to be a missile-sized hole in the Pentagon ?.... For ten years we've been lied to. ....... I had some hope that with the election of President Obama we'd have some relief, some reprieve. ... It ends up, he's part of that same faction. ... The faction that lies to us, spies on us and coerces us to kill innocent people for their oil. ... http://opednews.com http://krunchd.com/911 - pb:

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